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Texan

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kolanuraven said:
And, you can even file for the tax refund $$$ even if you didn't file/pay any taxes.

Now, that IS NOT right .
It's people like YOU that elect the ones that insist on putting that crap into the legislation. But all of us greedy "neocons" agree with you. Keep up the good work - you're finally coming around, Sugar. :wink:
 

CattleArmy

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Texan said:
kolanuraven said:
And, you can even file for the tax refund $$$ even if you didn't file/pay any taxes.

Now, that IS NOT right .
It's people like YOU that elect the ones that insist on putting that crap into the legislation. But all of us greedy "neocons" agree with you. Keep up the good work - you're finally coming around, Sugar. :wink:

Aww look Texan has a pet name for you Kolaraven. :shock: :eek: You lucky girl you. :roll: :wink: :p
 

kolanuraven

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CattleArmy said:
I thought you had to have filed a tax form this year to be eligible for the rebate? :???:


No.

Part of the ' relief' that Bush ,as issued, is that you can file for JUST THE REFUND, even if you have not filed a return this year.


What an excellent way to snag folks......
 

kolanuraven

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Texan said:
kolanuraven said:
And, you can even file for the tax refund $$$ even if you didn't file/pay any taxes.

Now, that IS NOT right .
It's people like YOU that elect the ones that insist on putting that crap into the legislation. But all of us greedy "neocons" agree with you. Keep up the good work - you're finally coming around, Sugar. :wink:


I'm not like some of you...vote straight party lines....you'd probably be surprised @ how many Rep's I have and do vote for at times.


I don't run with a group and better to say " Ride for the brand" .
 

kolanuraven

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CattleArmy said:
Texan said:
kolanuraven said:
And, you can even file for the tax refund $$$ even if you didn't file/pay any taxes.

Now, that IS NOT right .
It's people like YOU that elect the ones that insist on putting that crap into the legislation. But all of us greedy "neocons" agree with you. Keep up the good work - you're finally coming around, Sugar. :wink:

Aww look Texan has a pet name for you Kolaraven. :shock: :eek: You lucky girl you. :roll: :wink: :p


I know....he's loved me for a long time now! Makes me feel all fuzzy!!


( where's that puke icon when ya need it????)
 
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kolanuraven said:
Texan said:
kolanuraven said:
And, you can even file for the tax refund $$$ even if you didn't file/pay any taxes.

Now, that IS NOT right .
It's people like YOU that elect the ones that insist on putting that crap into the legislation. But all of us greedy "neocons" agree with you. Keep up the good work - you're finally coming around, Sugar. :wink:


I'm not like some of you...vote straight party lines....you'd probably be surprised @ how many Rep's I have and do vote for at times.


I don't run with a group and better to say " Ride for the brand" .

:shock: Kola-- don't tell us you do something so stupid and old fashioned as actually think :???: :wink: :lol: :lol:

Your supposed to just blindly support and walk in and mark an X by every person that has an (R) besides their name- no matter if he voted for a $320 million Bridge to Nowhere :roll: - or bent all the rules to get money transferred to the richest tribe in America, even when it wasn't in his own state (naturally after their lobbiest slipped him $10,000 in pocket change for his campaign) :roll: - to backing a nutcase in the White House build the biggest bureaucracy in US History (without any way to pay for it) while building the largest debt and foreign debt in history (much of which came from this type porkbarrel spending) :roll: - which our kids/grandkids will be spending the rest of their lives paying for :( ....
 

kolanuraven

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I know OT....that ' thinking' is a bad habit I seem not to be able to shake!!!

Wonder if they have a 12 step program for it?

I bet they do as we seem to have some graduates of it right here on Ranchers!!!!


:lol:
 

Soapweed

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It's wonderful, Oldtimer and Kolanuraven, that you are both "open-minded" enough to vote for both Republicans and Democrats, depending on the quality of the people running for office. You know, I could also do that if I ever figured there was a Democrat that would be better than the Republican running against him. Unfortunately, that situation hardly ever prevails.

In fact, back quite a few years ago, I did vote for a Democrat on the local level, because he was the best man for the job. Guess what, that man has now turned Republican, because he realized that basically Republicans stand for more of what he believes.

President Bush has plenty of short-comings (don't we all?). As bad as he is, I think either Gore or Kerry would have been worse. If it were all to happen over again, my vote would still be with Bush instead of either of the others. My only regret is that the Republicans didn't pick someone else instead of him to start with. Could I do a better job than Bush? Not a chance. For starters, I wouldn't take the job of President if it were laid in my lap. Do I think either you, Oldtimer, or you, Kolanuraven, would be a better President than Bush. Not a chance, once again. :roll: :wink: :)

Armchair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen, and they usually do not carry much clout. :)
 

kolanuraven

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Soapweed said:
It's wonderful, Oldtimer and Kolanuraven, that you are both "open-minded" enough to vote for both Republicans and Democrats, depending on the quality of the people running for office. Somehow I can see you as a lot of things....but ' open minded' could never be one of those things.


You know, I could also do that if I ever figured there was a Democrat that would be better than the Republican running against him. Unfortunately, that situation hardly ever prevails. What about the sainted JFK?


In fact, back quite a few years ago, I did vote for a Democrat on the local level, because he was the best man for the job. Guess what, that man has now turned Republican, because he realized that basically Republicans stand for more of what he believes. No I'd say he did that so he could get elected by ALL the non-thinkers in Cherry Co.


President Bush has plenty of short-comings (don't we all?). As bad as he is, I think either Gore or Kerry would have been worse. If it were all to happen over again, my vote would still be with Bush instead of either of the others. My only regret is that the Republicans didn't pick someone else instead of him to start with. Could I do a better job than Bush? Not a chance. For starters, I wouldn't take the job of President if it were laid in my lap. Do I think either you, Oldtimer, or you, Kolanuraven, would be a better President than Bush. Not a chance, once again. :roll: :wink: :)

Armchair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen, and they usually do not carry much clout. :)
I hope you are applying this rule to yourself as well because you just contradicted this in the above paragraph.
 

Larrry

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Can someone please explain:

Why is it good for a liberal democrat to spend money like a drunken sailor,
but bad for Bush to spend money like a drunken sailor?

I say they are both despicable in their spending habits. Why did Bush think that if he acted like a liberal democrat then the liberal democrats would like him?
 

kolanuraven

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Larrry said:
Can someone please explain:

Why is it good for a liberal democrat to spend money like a drunken sailor,
but bad for Bush to spend money like a drunken sailor?

I say they are both despicable in their spending habits. Why did Bush think that if he acted like a liberal democrat then the liberal democrats would like him?



Bush is like Soapweed....he can't think either.

Remember the famous, " You're either with us or against us"....so it's whole hog with these folks.

If you're gonna bust a country and go broke...well the go all the way to the bottom as fast as you can!!!!

If you're gonna invade a country...why let little details like NOT a country who attacked us matter.....' he tried to kill my Daddy" is as good as reason as any!!!
 
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Anonymous

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Soap- Kolans signature block says it quite well...

Abraham Lincoln once said, "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men."


The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
Plato
 

Soapweed

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kolanuraven said:
Soapweed said:
It's wonderful, Oldtimer and Kolanuraven, that you are both "open-minded" enough to vote for both Republicans and Democrats, depending on the quality of the people running for office. Somehow I can see you as a lot of things....but ' open minded' could never be one of those things.


You know, I could also do that if I ever figured there was a Democrat that would be better than the Republican running against him. Unfortunately, that situation hardly ever prevails. What about the sainted JFK?


In fact, back quite a few years ago, I did vote for a Democrat on the local level, because he was the best man for the job. Guess what, that man has now turned Republican, because he realized that basically Republicans stand for more of what he believes. No I'd say he did that so he could get elected by ALL the non-thinkers in Cherry Co.


President Bush has plenty of short-comings (don't we all?). As bad as he is, I think either Gore or Kerry would have been worse. If it were all to happen over again, my vote would still be with Bush instead of either of the others. My only regret is that the Republicans didn't pick someone else instead of him to start with. Could I do a better job than Bush? Not a chance. For starters, I wouldn't take the job of President if it were laid in my lap. Do I think either you, Oldtimer, or you, Kolanuraven, would be a better President than Bush. Not a chance, once again. :roll: :wink: :)

Armchair quarterbacks are a dime a dozen, and they usually do not carry much clout. :)
I hope you are applying this rule to yourself as well because you just contradicted this in the above paragraph.

Well, Kola, you are not "open-minded" either, because you've already written me off as not being open-minded. I can be at times, but admittedly am usually not. :)

In the case of the "sainted JFK," just because I am as old as dirt does not mean I was old enough to vote for (or against) JFK. :roll: He was elected to office on my 9th birthday. John F. Kennedy was assassinated after just a little over two and a half years in office. Part of his "sainthood" is because he was murdered. Lots of dorky people achieve larger than life fame if they are murdered.

Putting things in proper perspective, had George W. Bush been assassinated after just a little more than two and a half years in office, he might also have achieved the status of "saint." He was still fairly well thought of at that time. Putting things in another possible perspective, had John F. Kennedy been allowed to fill out his first term and been elected to and served a second term, he might also have screwed up enough that he wouldn't be remembered as such a saint after all these years, either.

My friend that was a Democrat, and became a Republican later, did so after he was no longer in office. Thus, he was not pandering to all of the so called "non-thinkers" of Cherry County, which title you bestowed upon those of us who are admitted Republicans. (And you think you are open-minded? :???: )
 

Texan

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The Gay Avenger said:
Aww look Texan has a pet name for you Kolaraven. :shock: :eek: You lucky girl you. :roll: :wink: :p
You sound jealous. Be patient and I'll try to come up with something for you, too. :lol:
 

Soapweed

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Oldtimer said:
Soap- Kolans signature block says it quite well...

Abraham Lincoln once said, "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men."

How is one to "protest" when things are so much out of our control. Whining or griping about a situation, even if done in large quantities :roll: :wink: , usually does little to rectify the situation.


The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men.
Plato

The main weapon that the common person has is to excercise our right to vote. If a person does not feel a sense of duty to vote, they darn sure have no right to complain. Some of us are just not cut out to run for public office, but we all can do our very best to vote scoundrels out of office. Once again, doing nothing but complaining does no good because it mostly just makes people turn off their hearing aids.
 

CattleArmy

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Texan Republican Closed Minded Conservative said:
The Gay Avenger said:
Aww look Texan has a pet name for you Kolaraven. :shock: :eek: You lucky girl you. :roll: :wink: :p
You sound jealous. Be patient and I'll try to come up with something for you, too. :lol:

Waiting anxiously. :D


Takes time to think up great ideas huh? :p

Texan I was wondering are those twisted testicles on the home page you? Seems that would explain your moods sometimes. :p :)
 
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Soapweed said:
Oldtimer said:
Soap- Kolans signature block says it quite well...

Abraham Lincoln once said, "To sin by silence when one should protest makes cowards out of men."

How is one to "protest" when things are so much out of our control. Whining or griping about a situation, even if done in large quantities :roll: :wink: , usually does little to rectify the situation.


.

I disagree with that- it was a backlash of the citizens of the country that stopped the liberals/corporates/politicians in their combined effort to push thru the Bush/McCain/Kennedy immigration bill and give amnesty to 20 million lawbreakers...This showed that a vocal American public can still have some say....
Another example is the soon to be implemented M-COOL law- which was opposed by a lobbiest corrupted administrations USDA and a corporate bought out NCBA- even tho it was supported by 70-80% of producers and the same number of consumers...
But it has to be a continuing battle- one step at a time-- one more ousted crooked politician (no matter if they are (R) or (D)) at at time....

The nation's entire network of left-wing organizations and their multi-billion dollar funding apparatus in corporate America suffered a setback of historic proportions in 2007 when the House of Representatives, in response to widespread public outrage over mass immigration, refused to pass legislation granting amnesty to an estimated 10 million to 20 million illegal aliens. The House refused to even consider the bill, despite support for it from the president, the Senate, and every major power center in the U.S., including the national Chamber of Commerce, every major daily newspaper, university presidents, immigration advocacy groups and assorted radicals and leftists.

Rarely has the establishment, working in concert with its advance guard on the far left, ever sustained such a defeat. Amnesty for illegal aliens is a long sought goal of both left-wing organizations and the big business groups that back them. For the left, millions of newly legalized immigrants represent a large pool of potential political recruits to use as a battering ram against the white, middle-class society they have longed to destroy. At the same time, those same millions of newly legalized immigrants represent new sources of cheap labor for major corporations.

http://www.manews.org/index.html
 

kolanuraven

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CA: LOVED the ' twisted testicle' remark...you might be onto something there!!!

Soap: You are not that much older than me, FYI. And as far as me being open minded about you...well you are the one who has stated MANY times that you vote straight party ticket....no matter what...and have condemned those of us that vote for the best person, regardless of party lines. No, I don't see you as open-minded.


If we , yes GA was one of the original, as colonies had not protested our relationship England in the ' days of old'.....you'd be having ' tea & crumpets" on the wild plains of Nebraska instead of prairie oysters. Better yet...you'd probably not even EXISTED as a state, a county called Cherry , only a subject of the Crown !!!


Ever think of that....or was that protest and whining and griping a waste of time also???

You keep on "riding for the ditch" as hard as you can....it's America and you can do that with a smile on your face if you like.

Me, I'll scream, yell and slap all the way to perdition!!!
 

Soapweed

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kolanuraven said:
Soap: You are not that much older than me, FYI. And as far as me being open minded about you...well you are the one who has stated MANY times that you vote straight party ticket....no matter what...and have condemned those of us that vote for the best person, regardless of party lines.

My point is that I am "open-minded" enough to vote for the best person, regardless of party affiliation. It is just so seldom that a Democrat is what I would deem to be "the best person." The reason I almost always end up voting for the Republican running in a race, is that their beliefs and positions on issues are most in line with my own thoughts of what is right.

The other reason I tend to vote a straight party ticket, is that once a candidate arrives in Washington, they usually vote for the Party that brought them to the dance. Democrats hang together and Republicans hang together. I voted for Chuch Hagel from Nebraska. He ran on the Republican ticket, and I thought his interests and mine coincided. When he got to Washington, he jumped ship and now sides with the Democrats. If he were to run again as a Republican, I would vote for the Democrat instead.
 
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