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AZ Sonoran Desert, outside Tucson, AZ

hypocritexposer

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AZ Sonoran Desert, outside Tucson, AZ


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It is estimated over 5,000 discarded backpacks are in this wash. Countless water containers, food wrappers, clothing, feces, including thousands of soiled baby diapers. And as you can see in this picture, fresh footprints leading right into it.
 

hypocritexposer

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I don't understand why it is so hard to figure out who is illegal and who is not.

It appears that they are naked when they cross the border. :lol: :lol:
 
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Anonymous

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Too cold and skeetery to be leaving your clothes on the north border... :wink:

What we usually found down here was sites where Canadians going north left stacks of empty whiskey bottles where they emptied the water tanks out of several RV's and filled with whiskey (even Canadian whiskey) because it was much cheaper in the states because of the Canadian sin taxes...

Usually it was whiskey and tobacco going north (Hoots were famous for it- even having false bottoms in their trucks) and illegal drugs and gold going south...Border Patrol said that the whiskey/tobacco smuggling was even more prevalent the closer you got to ND- because of the cheaper price in ND- so more profit to be had when they got to Canada..
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
Too cold and skeetery to be leaving your clothes on the north border... :wink:

What we usually found down here was sites where Canadians going north left stacks of empty whiskey bottles where they emptied the water tanks out of several RV's and filled with whiskey (even Canadian whiskey) because it was much cheaper in the states because of the Canadian sin taxes...

Usually it was whiskey and tobacco going north (Hoots were famous for it- even having false bottoms in their trucks) and illegal drugs and gold going south...Border Patrol said that the whiskey/tobacco smuggling was even more prevalent the closer you got to ND- because of the cheaper price in ND- so more profit to be had when they got to Canada..

Those darn Canadian we're a real threat to the US economy. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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There are 100's that slip across the Southern Border each year that are from Terrorism sponsoring countries. i wonder how those numbers compare with the numbers crossing the Northern Border?

http://www.wsbtv.com/video/23438712/index.html
 
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It was the Mounties- Canadian law enforcement- and Canadian Immigration folks that told me the Canadian immigration laws stunk- and were so lax it was allowing in many undesirables...Anyone that could get into the country by boat, plane, or land could seek seek amnesty/asylum as a refugee.....

Long before 9/11- the mounties and Canadian enforcement officers were extremely critical of Canada's immigration policy-- especially their giving amnesty/asylum to anyone that demanded it without background checks and it sometimes being years before they were processed to find out if they were even who they said they were- or eleigible for asylum....

At that time the big concern was with all the Asians- China, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Laos--- and many of which were being found out to have been heavily involved in the drug trade, gangs, and other criminal activities in their former countries (which they continued in Canada)....They indicated in some areas it was sitting up "Chinatown" districts with the old country "mafia's" running them...

I know during the few days I worked with them in the Lethbridge area- the suspects taken down for drugs were all Asian ...

Ten years before 9/11 they also had major concerns about the groups of turbaned Sikhs coming in that were sitting up colonies- a couple of which are right on the border- along with Muslims that were seeking asylum... ( I think one of the Sikh groups was taken down later for supplying money/weapons to the Pakistan/India area)...
 

burnt

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Oldtimer said:
It was the Mounties- Canadian law enforcement- and Canadian Immigration folks that told me the Canadian immigration laws stunk- and were so lax it was allowing in many undesirables...Anyone that could get into the country by boat, plane, or land could seek seek amnesty/asylum as a refugee.....

Long before 9/11- the mounties and Canadian enforcement officers were extremely critical of Canada's immigration policy-- especially their giving amnesty/asylum to anyone that demanded it without background checks and it sometimes being years before they were processed to find out if they were even who they said they were- or eleigible for asylum....

At that time the big concern was with all the Asians- China, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Laos--- and many of which were being found out to have been heavily involved in the drug trade, gangs, and other criminal activities in their former countries (which they continued in Canada)....They indicated in some areas it was sitting up "Chinatown" districts with the old country "mafia's" running them...

I know during the few days I worked with them in the Lethbridge area- the suspects taken down for drugs were all Asian ...

Ten years before 9/11 they also had major concerns about the groups of turbaned Sikhs coming in that were sitting up colonies- a couple of which are right on the border- along with Muslims that were seeking asylum... ( I think one of the Sikh groups was taken down later for supplying money/weapons to the Pakistan/India area)...

You seem to keep forgetting one or two crucial points.

How did the 9/11 terrorist pilots enter the U.S.?

And who trained them to fly planes? :???:

When you have answered those questions, come talk to us about lax Canadian immigration policies.
 
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burnt said:
Oldtimer said:
It was the Mounties- Canadian law enforcement- and Canadian Immigration folks that told me the Canadian immigration laws stunk- and were so lax it was allowing in many undesirables...Anyone that could get into the country by boat, plane, or land could seek seek amnesty/asylum as a refugee.....

Long before 9/11- the mounties and Canadian enforcement officers were extremely critical of Canada's immigration policy-- especially their giving amnesty/asylum to anyone that demanded it without background checks and it sometimes being years before they were processed to find out if they were even who they said they were- or eleigible for asylum....

At that time the big concern was with all the Asians- China, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Laos--- and many of which were being found out to have been heavily involved in the drug trade, gangs, and other criminal activities in their former countries (which they continued in Canada)....They indicated in some areas it was sitting up "Chinatown" districts with the old country "mafia's" running them...

I know during the few days I worked with them in the Lethbridge area- the suspects taken down for drugs were all Asian ...

Ten years before 9/11 they also had major concerns about the groups of turbaned Sikhs coming in that were sitting up colonies- a couple of which are right on the border- along with Muslims that were seeking asylum... ( I think one of the Sikh groups was taken down later for supplying money/weapons to the Pakistan/India area)...

You seem to keep forgetting one or two crucial points.

How did the 9/11 terrorist pilots enter the U.S.?

And who trained them to fly planes? :???:

When you have answered those questions, come talk to us about lax Canadian immigration policies.

Well to me- all of it- along with how we lost the War on Drugs- tells me that neither country had adequate border security or a working immigration policy....
 

burnt

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Oldtimer said:
burnt said:
Oldtimer said:
It was the Mounties- Canadian law enforcement- and Canadian Immigration folks that told me the Canadian immigration laws stunk- and were so lax it was allowing in many undesirables...Anyone that could get into the country by boat, plane, or land could seek seek amnesty/asylum as a refugee.....

Long before 9/11- the mounties and Canadian enforcement officers were extremely critical of Canada's immigration policy-- especially their giving amnesty/asylum to anyone that demanded it without background checks and it sometimes being years before they were processed to find out if they were even who they said they were- or eleigible for asylum....

At that time the big concern was with all the Asians- China, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Laos--- and many of which were being found out to have been heavily involved in the drug trade, gangs, and other criminal activities in their former countries (which they continued in Canada)....They indicated in some areas it was sitting up "Chinatown" districts with the old country "mafia's" running them...

I know during the few days I worked with them in the Lethbridge area- the suspects taken down for drugs were all Asian ...

Ten years before 9/11 they also had major concerns about the groups of turbaned Sikhs coming in that were sitting up colonies- a couple of which are right on the border- along with Muslims that were seeking asylum... ( I think one of the Sikh groups was taken down later for supplying money/weapons to the Pakistan/India area)...

You seem to keep forgetting one or two crucial points.

How did the 9/11 terrorist pilots enter the U.S.?

And who trained them to fly planes? :???:

When you have answered those questions, come talk to us about lax Canadian immigration policies.

Well to me- all of it- along with how we lost the War on Drugs- tells me that neither country had adequate border security or a working immigration policy....

You want to dance around the answer and the truth?

You are a real loser if you want to implicate Canada with your slippery words.

Hows that "hope and change" working out for you with regard to border security? Oh I forgot, you mentioned earlier - "no different" . . .
 
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burnt said:
Oldtimer said:
burnt said:
You seem to keep forgetting one or two crucial points.

How did the 9/11 terrorist pilots enter the U.S.?

And who trained them to fly planes? :???:

When you have answered those questions, come talk to us about lax Canadian immigration policies.

Well to me- all of it- along with how we lost the War on Drugs- tells me that neither country had adequate border security or a working immigration policy....

You want to dance around the answer and the truth?

You are a real loser if you want to implicate Canada with your slippery words.

Hows that "hope and change" working out for you with regard to border security? Oh I forgot, you mentioned earlier - "no different" . . .

And you have your head in the sand if you don't think illegals, drug smugglers, and criminals have used that border for years-- and yes- do come into the states from Canada....

You can't secure a countries borders- if you plug some and leave others unattended or weakly guarded....You have to do it ALL.....
 

Steve

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It was the Mounties- Canadian law enforcement- and Canadian Immigration folks that told me the Canadian immigration laws stunk- and were so lax it was allowing in many undesirables...Anyone that could get into the country by boat, plane, or land could seek seek amnesty/asylum as a refugee.....

and how is that different then our current policy?

you might want to stop in Baltimore or Minneapolis .. or one of the other cities over-ran by refugees..

The Twin Cities are home to the largest urban concentration of Hmong in the United States, estimated at 60,000 people.

Current estimates of the Twin Cities Somali population vary, with most conservative counts falling in the range of 35,000 to 50,000.

# Minneapolis is home to more Somalis than any other city in the US.
# St. Paul has the largest Hmong community in the US.
# St. Paul has a growing population of Karen, a minority ethnic group from Burma, and is currently one of the largest in the US.
# There are three Somali malls in the Twin Cities.
 

burnt

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Oldtimer said:
burnt said:
Oldtimer said:
Well to me- all of it- along with how we lost the War on Drugs- tells me that neither country had adequate border security or a working immigration policy....

You want to dance around the answer and the truth?

You are a real loser if you want to implicate Canada with your slippery words.

Hows that "hope and change" working out for you with regard to border security? Oh I forgot, you mentioned earlier - "no different" . . .

And you have your head in the sand if you don't think illegals, drug smugglers, and criminals have used that border for years-- and yes- do come into the states from Canada....

You can't secure a countries borders- if you plug some and leave others unattended or weakly guarded....You have to do it ALL.....

Let me make these questions very simple and clear -

#1 - What was the path and point of entry into the United States for the terrorists who commandeered the jets that brought down the Twin Towers?

#2 - Where did those same terrorists train to fly airplanes?

and perhaps to make it very clear, let me add one more -

#3 - Was Canada's involvement in either of the first two questions -

a) zero, or,
b) zero?

Is it possible for you to be honest when someone makes it very easy for you to do so?

If you are unable to come up with the right answers, I think there are some on here who can help you. And Janet Napolitano, too.
 
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You think those terrorists are the only terrorists to enter our country in the past 10 years? And you're saying NO illegal alien immigrants or terrorists come into the US by way of Canada :???:
 

burnt

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Oldtimer said:
You think those terrorists are the only terrorists to enter our country in the past 10 years? And you're saying NO illegal alien immigrants or terrorists come into the US by way of Canada :???:

Answer my question, you lying old dirtbag.
 
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Anonymous

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burnt said:
Oldtimer said:
You think those terrorists are the only terrorists to enter our country in the past 10 years? And you're saying NO illegal alien immigrants or terrorists come into the US by way of Canada :???:

Answer my question, you lying old dirtbag.

Look up Ahmed Ressam, Mokhtar Haouari, Karim Said Atmani and Abdelmajid Dahoumane for starters...

And when you look up Dahoumane--go down the page to the list of Canadians Alledgely Associated with Terrorism:

Canadians allegedly associated with terrorism

Non-"War on Terror"

FLQ Jacques Lanctôt, Louise Lanctôt, Marc Carbonneau, Jacques Cossette-Trudel, Bernard Lortie

Air India Bombing Ripudaman Singh Malik, Ajaib Singh Bagri, Talwinder Singh Parmar, Inderjit Singh Reyat, Surjan Singh Gill, Hardial Singh Johal, Daljit Sandhu

Squamish Five Ann Hansen, Brent Taylor, Juliet Caroline Belmas, Gerry Hannah

IRA Sean John McCann, William James Carson, James Murdock, Denis Leyne

Tamil Tigers Manickavasagam Suresh, Loganathan Sabanayagam, Kumaravelu Vignarajah, Sathajhan Sarachandran

Hamas Jamal Akal°

Hezbollah Ali Adham Amhaz, Fauzi Ayub°, Mohammed Hassan Dbouk, Mohammed al-Husseini, Omar el Sayed, Hani al-Sayegh

PFLP Mahmoud Mohammad, Issam Al Yamani

PKK Aynur Saygili

1991 Toronto bomb plot Glenn Neville Ford, Khidr Ali

Mujahideen-e Khalq Robab Farahi-Mahdavieh, Effat Nejati, Mahnaz Samadi

PLO Wahid Khalil Baroud, Mahmood Abo Shandi

Eco-Terrorism Wiebo Ludwig

Millennium Plot Ahmed Ressam†, Fateh Kamel°, Ahcene Zemiri†, Mokhtar Haouari, Abdel Hakim Tizegha, Abdel Ghani, Abdelmajid Dahoumane

Other Michelle Duclos°, Gazi Ibrihim Abu Mezer, Shaun Going, Hassan Diab, Parminder Singh Saini°
"War on Terror"

al-Jihad Mahmoud Jaballah, Essam Marzouk†, Mohammad Mahjoub

al-Qaeda Mubarak al-Duri, Mohammed† and Abdul Rahman Jabarahǂ, Mohamedou Ould Slahi, Amer el-Maati, Raed Hijazi, Niser bin Muhammad Nasar Nawar

Khadr family Ahmed Said Khadrǂ and Maha Elsamnah, Zaynab, Abdullah†, Abdurahman°, Omar†, Abdulkareem

Afghan Insurgency Ahmed Said Khadrǂ, Mohammed Warsame

Iraqi Insurgency Saeed and Masoud Rasoul, Abu Abdul Rahman, Hassan Farhat, Aumar Alsorani

Chechnya Rudwan Khalil Abubakerǂ

Groupe Islamique Armé Mohamed Harkat, Karim Said Atmani°, Mourad Ikhlef

Toronto 18 Steven Chand, Shareef Abdelhaleem, Jahmaal James, Mohammed Dirie, Fahim Ahmad, Asad Ansari, Zakaria Amara, Amin Durrani, Saad Khalid, a young offender with unreleased name

Held at Guantanamo Bay Omar Khadr, Abdurahman Khadr°, Raouf Hannachi, Djamel Ameziane, Ahcene Zemiri, Mohamedou Ould Slahi

Other Abderraouf Jdey, Faker Boussora, Bashir Makhtal†, Kassem Daher°, Mustafa Krer, Momin Khawaja, Abdullahi Afrahǂ, Amr Hamedǂ, Huseyincan Celil†, Idriss†, Hassan Almrei, Assem Hammoud, Moussa Mohamed Kalifa, Said Namouh, Mohammad Ashraf Siddiqui, Fahad al-Shehri, Tahawwur Hussain Rana, Abdelrahman Fakhri Abou el-Ila

Cleared of wrongdoing Nageeb al-Hadi, Benamar Benatta, Abdullah Almalki, Maher Arar, Arwad al-Boushi, Ahmad Abou El-Maati, Muayyed Nureddin, Abdellah Ouzghar, Liban Hussein, Qayyum Jamal, Yasim Mohamed, Ahmad Ghany, three young offenders with unreleased names, Sohail Qureshi, Amine Mezbar, 24 Pakistani immigrants, Nabil al-Marabh, Abousfian Abdelrazik, Arward Al-Bousha, Kassim Mohamed, Adil Charkaoui




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelmajid_Dahoumane
 

burnt

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Oldtimer said:
burnt said:
Oldtimer said:
You think those terrorists are the only terrorists to enter our country in the past 10 years? And you're saying NO illegal alien immigrants or terrorists come into the US by way of Canada :???:

Answer my question, you lying old dirtbag.

Look up Ahmed Ressam, Mokhtar Haouari, Karim Said Atmani and Abdelmajid Dahoumane for starters...

And when you look up Dahoumane--go down the page to the list of Canadians Alledgely Associated with Terrorism:

Canadians allegedly associated with terrorism

Non-"War on Terror"

FLQ Jacques Lanctôt, Louise Lanctôt, Marc Carbonneau, Jacques Cossette-Trudel, Bernard Lortie

Air India Bombing Ripudaman Singh Malik, Ajaib Singh Bagri, Talwinder Singh Parmar, Inderjit Singh Reyat, Surjan Singh Gill, Hardial Singh Johal, Daljit Sandhu

Squamish Five Ann Hansen, Brent Taylor, Juliet Caroline Belmas, Gerry Hannah

IRA Sean John McCann, William James Carson, James Murdock, Denis Leyne

Tamil Tigers Manickavasagam Suresh, Loganathan Sabanayagam, Kumaravelu Vignarajah, Sathajhan Sarachandran

Hamas Jamal Akal°

Hezbollah Ali Adham Amhaz, Fauzi Ayub°, Mohammed Hassan Dbouk, Mohammed al-Husseini, Omar el Sayed, Hani al-Sayegh

PFLP Mahmoud Mohammad, Issam Al Yamani

PKK Aynur Saygili

1991 Toronto bomb plot Glenn Neville Ford, Khidr Ali

Mujahideen-e Khalq Robab Farahi-Mahdavieh, Effat Nejati, Mahnaz Samadi

PLO Wahid Khalil Baroud, Mahmood Abo Shandi

Eco-Terrorism Wiebo Ludwig

Millennium Plot Ahmed Ressam†, Fateh Kamel°, Ahcene Zemiri†, Mokhtar Haouari, Abdel Hakim Tizegha, Abdel Ghani, Abdelmajid Dahoumane

Other Michelle Duclos°, Gazi Ibrihim Abu Mezer, Shaun Going, Hassan Diab, Parminder Singh Saini°
"War on Terror"

al-Jihad Mahmoud Jaballah, Essam Marzouk†, Mohammad Mahjoub

al-Qaeda Mubarak al-Duri, Mohammed† and Abdul Rahman Jabarahǂ, Mohamedou Ould Slahi, Amer el-Maati, Raed Hijazi, Niser bin Muhammad Nasar Nawar

Khadr family Ahmed Said Khadrǂ and Maha Elsamnah, Zaynab, Abdullah†, Abdurahman°, Omar†, Abdulkareem

Afghan Insurgency Ahmed Said Khadrǂ, Mohammed Warsame

Iraqi Insurgency Saeed and Masoud Rasoul, Abu Abdul Rahman, Hassan Farhat, Aumar Alsorani

Chechnya Rudwan Khalil Abubakerǂ

Groupe Islamique Armé Mohamed Harkat, Karim Said Atmani°, Mourad Ikhlef

Toronto 18 Steven Chand, Shareef Abdelhaleem, Jahmaal James, Mohammed Dirie, Fahim Ahmad, Asad Ansari, Zakaria Amara, Amin Durrani, Saad Khalid, a young offender with unreleased name

Held at Guantanamo Bay Omar Khadr, Abdurahman Khadr°, Raouf Hannachi, Djamel Ameziane, Ahcene Zemiri, Mohamedou Ould Slahi

Other Abderraouf Jdey, Faker Boussora, Bashir Makhtal†, Kassem Daher°, Mustafa Krer, Momin Khawaja, Abdullahi Afrahǂ, Amr Hamedǂ, Huseyincan Celil†, Idriss†, Hassan Almrei, Assem Hammoud, Moussa Mohamed Kalifa, Said Namouh, Mohammad Ashraf Siddiqui, Fahad al-Shehri, Tahawwur Hussain Rana, Abdelrahman Fakhri Abou el-Ila

Cleared of wrongdoing Nageeb al-Hadi, Benamar Benatta, Abdullah Almalki, Maher Arar, Arwad al-Boushi, Ahmad Abou El-Maati, Muayyed Nureddin, Abdellah Ouzghar, Liban Hussein, Qayyum Jamal, Yasim Mohamed, Ahmad Ghany, three young offenders with unreleased names, Sohail Qureshi, Amine Mezbar, 24 Pakistani immigrants, Nabil al-Marabh, Abousfian Abdelrazik, Arward Al-Bousha, Kassim Mohamed, Adil Charkaoui




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdelmajid_Dahoumane

Oldtimer said:
burnt said:
Oldtimer said:
You think those terrorists are the only terrorists to enter our country in the past 10 years? And you're saying NO illegal alien immigrants or terrorists come into the US by way of Canada :???:

Answer my question, you lying old dirtbag.


You do a superior job of proving that you are unable to handle the truth in any form.

You refuse to acknowledge the truth when it is spelled out for you.

And you are living proof of why the security of the U.S. is highly compromised and unenforceable at best - you refuse to accept the evidence that you are totally vulnerable to enemy infiltration at your country's own, unshared points of entry, the security of which is entirely up to your Homeland Security people -i.e. Janet Napolitano - oh does that tell you something? haha!

And your most dangerous enemies are not even sophisticated. Do you want to try to imagine what it will be like when they start to employ a bit of gray matter?

And you want to try to pin blame on your allies and blacken them as you would as if they were a nation of radical Muslims.

You are a **** $%%!.
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
You think those terrorists are the only terrorists to enter our country in the past 10 years? And you're saying NO illegal alien immigrants or terrorists come into the US by way of Canada :???:

PUT on a dress oldtimer you skirt the questions asked like a teenage girl on her first date! :wink: :wink:

Do you have anything like the photos show, and I have described like that in VALLEY COUNTY MONTANA????
Especially with the few ILLIGALS that you have? :wink: :wink: :wink:
What both of them???? :wink: :wink:

EH?????
 
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