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Boehner calls Bachmann accusations 'pretty dangerous'

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(CNN) – Republican House Speaker John Boehner called dangerous Thursday a request from members of his own party in Congress to investigate Muslim infiltration in the U.S. government.

Admitting he had not read a letter requesting the investigation, Boehner said "I think accusations like this being thrown around are pretty dangerous."

Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, along with four other Republican members of Congress, formally requested in June that various federal agencies investigate whether the American government has been infiltrated by Muslim extremists.


Among the issues they raise is a claim that long-time aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Huma Abedin, has three family members connected to the Muslim Brotherhood, and is at risk of being influenced by her family members. The members of Congress want to know how she holds a high level security clearance.

On Thursday, Boehner said he did not know Abedin, but that "everything I do know of her she has a sterling character."

Republican Arizona Sen. John McCain made a speech on the Senate floor Wednesday criticizing the call for an investigation and defending Abedin.

"These allegations about Huma, and the report from which they are drawn, are nothing less than an unwarranted and unfounded attack on an honorable woman, a dedicated American, and a loyal public servant," McCain said.

"When anyone, not least a member of Congress, launches specious and degrading attacks against fellow Americans on the basis of nothing more than fear of who they are and ignorance of what they stand for, it defames the spirit of our nation, and we all grow poorer because of it," he added.

State Department spokesman Phillipe Reines called the accusations "nothing but vicious and disgusting lies," in a statement to CNN.

Bachmann, who refused to answer questions from CNN about the letter on Wednesday, said in a statement that her and her colleagues' request was being "distorted."

"I encourage everyone, including media outlets, to read them in their entirety," Bachmann wrote. "The intention of the letters was to outline the serious national security concerns I had and ask for answers to questions regarding the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical group's access to top Obama administration officials."


First I'm finding that some of the conservative and rightwingernut spokesmen ( Michelle Malkin, Corsi and WND, and even Senator Coburns staff ) have been accusing the Teaparty's champion and moral/morale guide of links to terrorism and radical Muslims-- but now we have the top elected fruitcake of the Teapotty cult calling for McCarthy- era type investigations.. :roll:


ATTA-BOY John McCain- if you'd shown those cajones to take on the fruitcakes back 4 years ago (and hadn't brought one in as your VP candidate)- you might be President today...

Good thing I kept my shares in Depends- with all the peeing down the legs of these right wing fruitcakes- my investment is bound to go up!! :wink: :lol:
 

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Admitting he had not read a letter requesting the investigation

On Thursday, Boehner said he did not know Abedin, but

"I encourage everyone, including media outlets, to read them in their entirety,"

seems one of the biggest problems in DC is not reading anything before making a decision..

http://www.scribd.com/doc/100439777/Ig-Letter-Dept-of-State

the letter makes many valid points.. and would be a better use of time then investigating baseball.




if I had a mother, father and brother actively involved with a militia, I doubt OT would give me the benefit of the law... let alone assign me as his senior deputy...
 

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The philosophy of our service is that we open a house somewhere and, with the patience of a spider, we lay our web to wait for people to get caught in the web; and we teach those who do.

The Womens Organization’s goal in accordance with the Muslim Brotherhood rules, is to gain and acquire a unified global perception in every nation in the world regarding the position of women, and the necessity of advocacy work at all levels in accordance with the message of the Brotherhood as written in Women in Muslim Society, and the rearing of women throughout the different stages of life.

you can either believe what they say and write,.. or ignore their stated goals..




Saleha Mahmood Abedin is an associate professor of sociology at Dar Al-Hekma College in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, which she helped to create. She formerly directed the Institute of Muslim Minority Affairs in the U.K. and served as a delegate for the Muslim World League,

Abedin once reportedly represented the Muslim World League, or MWL, a Saudi-financed charity that has spawned Islamic groups accused of terror ties. One of the groups was declared by the U.S. government to be an official al-Qaida front.

The Anti-Defamation League profile of the MWL accuses the group of promulgating a “fundamentalist interpretation of Islam around the world through a large network of charities and affiliated organizations.”

“Its ideological backbone is based on an extremist interpretation of Islam,” the profile states, “and several of its affiliated groups and individuals have been linked to terror-related activity.”

an Islamic fundamentalist group Osama bin Laden reportedly told an associate was one of his most important charity fronts.

but really,.. in respect to Huma, I doubt a lesbian married to a Jew is a terrorist plant...

but I do not doubt her influence and ability to soften our state department policy on radical muslim groups..
 

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posted just days ago...


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Speaking of foreign nationals and aid to foreign/Muslim countries/terrorists -- I was reading an article today and became aware that the Lobbyiest behind the TeaParty say NO to everything contract (that has left Congress totally disfunctional)- Grover Norquist-- is married to a Palestinian Muslim named Samah Alrayyes, a Kuwaiti PR specialist who was formerly a director of the Islamic Free Market Institute and specialist at the Bureau of Legislative and Public Affairs at United States Agency for International Development (USAID).


The Islamic Free Market Institute has some questionable connections to terrorist funding...

The Islamic Free Market Institute (also known simply as the Islamic Institute) is a Muslim outreach group founded by Khaled Saffuri and Grover Norquist in 1998 , where they served as executive director and chairman, respectively.


The Safa Trust donated at least $35,000, and the International Institute of Islamic Thought contributed $11,000. Both organizations were alleged to be part of the so-called SAAR Network of interrelated business and non-profit entities with ties to sources of terrorism financing, and were among the subjects of a March 20, 2002 raid conducted led the U.S. Custom Service under the auspices of Operation Green Quest.

The Operation Green Quest raids led to the convictions of two people, including Abdurahman Alamoudi, who worked for the SAAR Foundation. Alamoudi admitted that he plotted with Libya to assassinate the Saudi ruler and was sentenced to 23 years in jail.

Just seemed like a weird type of fellow for the rightwingernuts to be bowing down and kissing the feet of.. :roll: :???:

hopefully you had your depends on when you worried about Grover...

ironically from the same source as the allegations against Huma...


Alrayyes (now known as Samah Alrayyes Norquist) has radical Islamic credentials of her own; she served as communications director at the Islamic Free Market Institute, the Islamist organization Norquist helped found. Now, she is employed as a public affairs officer at the U.S. Agency for International Development – and so it appears that yet another Islamist finds employment in a branch of the U.S. government.

Grover Norquist has for some years now been promoting Islamist organizations, including even the Council on American-Islamic Relations; for example, he spoke at CAIR's conference, "A Better America in a Better World" on October 5, 2004. Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. has researched Norquist's ties to Islamists in his exhaustive, careful, and convincing 2003 study, "A Troubling Influence," and concludes that he is enabling "a political influence operation to advance the causes of radical Islamists, and targeted most particularly at the Bush Administration."

seems you were peeing in all over the place on this one... :lol:
 
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posted just days ago...


Oldtimer said:
Speaking of foreign nationals and aid to foreign/Muslim countries/terrorists -- I was reading an article today and became aware that the Lobbyiest behind the TeaParty say NO to everything contract (that has left Congress totally disfunctional)- Grover Norquist-- is married to a Palestinian Muslim named Samah Alrayyes, a Kuwaiti PR specialist who was formerly a director of the Islamic Free Market Institute and specialist at the Bureau of Legislative and Public Affairs at United States Agency for International Development (USAID).


The Islamic Free Market Institute has some questionable connections to terrorist funding...



Just seemed like a weird type of fellow for the rightwingernuts to be bowing down and kissing the feet of.. :roll: :???:

hopefully you had your depends on when you worried about Grover...

ironically from the same source as the allegations against Huma...


Alrayyes (now known as Samah Alrayyes Norquist) has radical Islamic credentials of her own; she served as communications director at the Islamic Free Market Institute, the Islamist organization Norquist helped found. Now, she is employed as a public affairs officer at the U.S. Agency for International Development – and so it appears that yet another Islamist finds employment in a branch of the U.S. government.

Grover Norquist has for some years now been promoting Islamist organizations, including even the Council on American-Islamic Relations; for example, he spoke at CAIR's conference, "A Better America in a Better World" on October 5, 2004. Frank J. Gaffney, Jr. has researched Norquist's ties to Islamists in his exhaustive, careful, and convincing 2003 study, "A Troubling Influence," and concludes that he is enabling "a political influence operation to advance the causes of radical Islamists, and targeted most particularly at the Bush Administration."

seems you were peeing in all over the place on this one... :lol:

Not really Steve.. A little intriqued at the radical rightwingernuts now eating their own-- but not really surprised as it fits their m.o.-- since when they have no positive message to put forth (99% of the time), they try to enrage the masses of uneducated following them using fear mongering, racism/ethnics/religion, bigotry, homophobia, and any other hate talk which fits for the day...

Bachmann has been famous for it- but what really surprised me is when after doing a little research I found it was far right conservative folks like Malkin, Corsi, and WND making the accusations against Norquist...
Even very conservative Sen Tom Coburns chief of staff called Norquist "the Chief Cleric of Sharia Law"... :shock:
 

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so if it is used against a conservative,.. the source is valid..


yet if used by a conservative,.. "it is uneducated following them using fear mongering, racism/ethnics/religion, bigotry, homophobia, and any other hate talk which fits for the day"...

stop peeing in the wind... it is distorting your view...
 
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so if it is used against a conservative,.. the source is valid..


yet if used by a conservative,.. "it is uneducated following them using fear mongering, racism/ethnics/religion, bigotry, homophobia, and any other hate talk which fits for the day"...

stop peeing in the wind... it is distorting your view...

So which ones do YOU think is the most valid :???: Bachmann and her likewise nutcase Teapotty politicians against all Muslims- or Malkin. WND. Coburn's aid against Norquist- the Teapottys idol?

Or could it just be a whole bunch of paranoids running around in circles with no real idea of how to solve the countries problems- using their fearmongering/bigotry to promote their own cause- and if their paranoia eats their own- so be it...
Just like extremist groups of both sides- ultra lib or nutcase conservative- their real agenda is not to improve the country, but to bring it down instead...
 

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I still remember when government wasn't "paranoid" about muslim extremists.

Next thing you knew, Bush inherited 911 from Clinton.
 

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Muslim extremists MUST be stopped, period. Doesn't matter where they are. And, yes, I would not be surprised in the least that they have infiltrated the US Government, considering the administration we have had since January, 2009.

Sure be too bad if to enter any Federal building in DC that you had to pet a pig before you could enter....... :wink:

Too bad hogs weren't airlifted to the 'Stan and Iraq to be used in many imaginitive ways as well......Black Jack Pershing understood how to control radical Islam.
 

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Oldtimer said:
Steve said:
so if it is used against a conservative,.. the source is valid..


yet if used by a conservative,.. "it is uneducated following them using fear mongering, racism/ethnics/religion, bigotry, homophobia, and any other hate talk which fits for the day"...

stop peeing in the wind... it is distorting your view...

So which ones do YOU think is the most valid :???:

I didn't post both articles,.. you did...

I just pointed out your inconsistencies on the issue...
 

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Explanation of OT's thought process....

"Binge drinking increases risk of cognitive decline"
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-07-18/alzheimers-binge-drinking/56310294/1


By the way OT, Muslims have been a concern from the founding time of our country. Their radical beliefs are not new. The only thing new is that there are a bunch of cognitive dysfunctional non-muslim people that believe they can live in harmony with them. Even though Islam demands destruction of all non-believers. There is no logic here.
 

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So which ones do YOU think is the most valid Say what? Bachmann and her likewise nutcase Teapotty politicians against all Muslims- or Malkin. WND. Coburn's aid against Norquist- the Teapottys idol?

I feel both accusations use guilt by association.. in the Frank Gaffney article,.. but Bachmann is not making an accusation of guilt but one of influence, and then backs it up with facts about recent extremely lenient policy towards radical terrorist leaders and groups from the state department..

as for Grover... the facts show he has also been influenced and supported Islamic causes..

often when a person is close to you they can influence your decisions.. and politics...

there once was a staunch conservative on here from Montana.. who claimed his wife and family influenced his decision to back liberal causes..

family and friends have been influencing those close to them for centuries..

so yes when it appears a person in a position of influence and sensitivity has radical family and friends,.. it should be a concern..


but then I doubt you have ever used guilt by association ever... :? :???:
 

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since OT will not be able to answer honestly lets have some fun,...

but then I doubt you have ever used guilt by association ever.. :? :???:

the documented list of groups Mc OTism has slandered with "guilt by association" and with no proof or connection whatsoever..

1. tea party.. aka teapotty,.. aka teabaggers..

2. militias

3. GOP, aka rightwingnuts, aka, cultists,, aka republicans aka conservatives..

ok maybe this wasn't such a good idea... as the list would dredge up way to many old accusations.... made by one person against any group or person he didn't see eye to eye with..
 

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