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Bad day at McCain/Palin camp

fff

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It was a bad day at CBS for Republican candidates John McCain and Sarah Palin. It started with CBS News anchorwoman Katie Couric and ended with late night host David Letterman, and between the two, it looks like some serious damage might have been done to the GOP ticket.

In a particularly wild day on the campaign trail, TV news was at the center of events -- mostly in the person of Couric. Beyond getting two exclusive interviews with John McCain and Sarah Palin, the veteran newswoman served viewers extremely well in her superb handling of the Republican candidates.

The headlines: Palin told Couric she thinks "America may find itself on" the road to "another Great Depression."

Then in a separate interview, when Couric repeated Palin's answer to McCain, he had to try and do damage control saying: "I, I don't know if, if, if it's exactly the depression..."

The campaign trail tumult started when McCain announced that he wanted to delay Friday's debate with Democratic opponent Barack Obama so that the two candidates could help resolve the country's economic crisis. Obama responded by saying the debate should go on as planned: "This is exactly the time when the American people need to hear from the person who, in approximately 40 days, will be responsible for dealing with this mess," Obama said.

Couric's newscast skillfully included Obama's remarks on the campaign trail and contextualized all the news being made in the Couric interviews with a series of correspondents' reports on the nation's financial crisis. Executive producer Rick Kaplan and Couric, who also serves as managing editor, delivered one of the strongest and most informative half hours of news that I have seen in the two years of Couric's tenure. If this is a dinosaur, it was having one great last roar -- and mostly at the expense of a couple of candidates who at times seemed overwhelmed by the intensely focused anchorwoman.

Here's Couric pressing McCain on Palin's talk of American being on the road to another Great Depression:

Couric: “But isn't much of this, Senator McCain about consumer confidence?”

McCain: “Sure.”

Couric: “And using rhetoric like the Great Depression, is that the kind of language Americans need to hear right now?”

McCain: “Well, listen, I've heard language from respected people who are staring at the abyss. I've, I've heard all kinds of, of things from people. I don't think we need to scare people. …”

And here's Couric pressing Palin on a claim that McCain is the right man to "reform government" and Wall Street.

Couric: “But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation -- not more.”

Palin: “He's also known as a maverick though. Taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. …”

Couric: “I'm just going to ask one more time, not to belabor the point -- specific example in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.”

Palin: “I'll try to find you some, and I'll bring them to you.”

If ABC anchorman Charles Gibson showed Palin's limitations, Couric revealed the near-total lack of evidence behind the talking-point bromides and clichés Palin rattles off in TV interviews.

But it was prelude to the wrath of Letterman after McCain canceled an appearance on his show -- especially when Letterman found out that McCain was still doing an interview with Couric at CBS News.

“I’m more than a little disappointed by his behavior,” Letterman said of McCain's decision to cancel his appearance on the show and suspend his campaign until Congress passes a bailout plan.

“We’re suspending the campaign -- suspending it because there’s an economic crisis, or because the poll numbers are sliding?”

“You don’t suspend your campaign -- something about this stinks,” Letterman continued, using a phrase he would repeat over and over throughout the show. “Do you suspend your campaign? No, because that makes me think maybe there will be other things down the road, like if he’s in the White House, he might just suspend being president. I mean, we've got a guy like that now!”

Adding insult to injury, Letterman brought on MSNBC host and left-wing attack dog Keith Olbermann as the substitute guest for McCain.

During his chat with Olbermann, Letterman used the in-house CBS cameras and monitors to show McCain being readied for his interview with Couric on the set of the CBS Evening News.

He doesn’t seem to be racing to the airport, does he?” Letterman said referring to McCain's call earlier in the day when he told Letterman he was canceling because "the economy is cratering" and he has to rush back to Washington to work on a Wall Street bailout plan.

“Hey John, I got a question! You need a ride to the airport?” Letterman yelled at the TV monitor as the in-house camera showed McCain talking to Couric.

The audience howled in delight at the merciless edge of Letterman's anti-McCain barbs. The comedian also repeatedly asked why McCain didn't send Palin in his place -- suggesting the GOP handlers were afraid that she couldn't handle it.

Meanwhile, most of the networks and cable channels said last night that their correspondents and crews were already in place in Oxford, Miss., for Friday night's scheduled debate, and they were going to stay put. In addition to Obama saying he wanted to have the debate, the chancellor at the University of Mississippi where the debate is to be held, said his institution is proceeding as if there will be debate.

McCain and Palin were not looking too good Wednesday under the unforgiving lights of TV news. But thanks mainly to Couric and Kaplan, it was a day when the industry did its job well and served the voters of a troubled nation with a revealing look at two if its candidates.

And then, Letterman piled on with the kind of non-stop, nasty, comedic needling no one can deliver quite like him.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2008/09/couric_letterman_too_much_for.html
 

PrairieQueen

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[/quote]Couric: “And using rhetoric like the Great Depression, is that the kind of language Americans need to hear right now?”
GOOD GRIEF!

Couric brought up the "rhetoric" in the first place!
 

Larrry

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Barak Hussein Obama good friend and associate:

As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he "left the room to cry." He said, "I realized...America was an evil... and that I was... living inside the belly of the beast...."
 

TexasBred

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In her interview with Ms. Palin, Ms. Couric, the CBS News anchor, asked: If Congress doesn’t pass bail-out legislation, “do you think there’s a risk of another Great Depression?”

Yep Couric brought it up....Palin simply answered.....and anyone that doesn't think it's possible better start hoarding food and ammo.
 

backhoeboogie

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Ms. Couric, the CBS News anchor,

Nuff said right there. You have to know where this is going if the media is involved.

If I said "the only thing I don't like about this...." The media would air, "I don't like" Been there and know.

In one 20 minute interview I had they aired a whole 12 seconds or so and it was totally off base.

They have since wanted interviews of other issues and I have turned them down every time.
 

fff

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TexasBred said:
In her interview with Ms. Palin, Ms. Couric, the CBS News anchor, asked: If Congress doesn’t pass bail-out legislation, “do you think there’s a risk of another Great Depression?”

Yep Couric brought it up....Palin simply answered.....and anyone that doesn't think it's possible better start hoarding food and ammo.

Then, if she were an EXPERIENCED leader, she'd have said what McCain said: "I don't know if, if, if it's exactly the depression..." But since she's inexperienced and out of her depth, she added to the stress being felt by Americans today about the safety of their money.

BTW, I see that McCain hasn't really suspended his campaign. What a shocker. :roll: His TV ads are still running around the country and his people are on local cable channels.
 

backhoeboogie

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fff said:
Then, if she were an EXPERIENCED leader, she'd have said

Have we not already established that she is not a career politican, a diplomat, and certainly not a democrat and lawyer.

Your lawyer candidates can talk for an hour and never say a thing. Tell me fff, exactly what it is that your boys have promised to do?
 

TexasBred

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fff said:
TexasBred said:
In her interview with Ms. Palin, Ms. Couric, the CBS News anchor, asked: If Congress doesn’t pass bail-out legislation, “do you think there’s a risk of another Great Depression?”

Yep Couric brought it up....Palin simply answered.....and anyone that doesn't think it's possible better start hoarding food and ammo.

Then, if she were an EXPERIENCED leader, she'd have said what McCain said: "I don't know if, if, if it's exactly the depression..." But since she's inexperienced and out of her depth, she added to the stress being felt by Americans today about the safety of their money.BTW, I see that McCain hasn't really suspended his campaign. What a shocker. :roll: His TV ads are still running around the country and his people are on local cable channels.

hmmm..you guys are trying to pass Biden off as an "experienced leader". What's his excuse????????
 

fff

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backhoeboogie said:
fff said:
Then, if she were an EXPERIENCED leader, she'd have said

Have we not already established that she is not a career politican, a diplomat, and certainly not a democrat and lawyer.

Your lawyer candidates can talk for an hour and never say a thing. Tell me fff, exactly what it is that your boys have promised to do?

She's been in politics since 1992. Obama didn't run for office (and lost) until 2000. So who's the "career" politician?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin
 

nonothing

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Had Obama said those things the folks here would be all over him.....Since it was Palin and McCain then the spinning starts.....I am Not even sure why you try to show a non conservative side here fff,these folks eyes have blinders on them...Closed minds can never be changed.
 

backhoeboogie

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fff said:
backhoeboogie said:
fff said:
Then, if she were an EXPERIENCED leader, she'd have said

Have we not already established that she is not a career politican, a diplomat, and certainly not a democrat and lawyer.

Your lawyer candidates can talk for an hour and never say a thing. Tell me fff, exactly what it is that your boys have promised to do?

She's been in politics since 1992. Obama didn't run for office (and lost) until 2000. So who's the "career" politician?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

She didn't run for president or the senate. She ran for city mayor. Do you call that "career?"

Then she decided to run for governor and I can go with your thoughts there.
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
Had Obama said those things the folks here would be all over him.....Since it was Palin and McCain then the spinning starts.....I am Not even sure why you try to show a non conservative side here fff,these folks eyes have blinders on them...Closed minds can never be changed.

Why do you hang out here then? You do not like Conservatives replies but you hang on a message board that is mostly conservatives. You whine about these conservatives talking about what and how they feel. And to top it all off you are not even an American Citizen.

Sounds like to me you just come around to try to spew some anti American hate because you have nothing better to do! :roll:

Otherwise you would do what you do on a message board, Libs spin their side Conservatives spin their side. Libs take up for their views, Conservatives take up for their side.

I guess maybe we could have some sort of affirmative action and import in some more libs or export some Conservatives to make you happy, you may want to suggest that to Macon so you feel more comfy. Or you could stop whining about it, or go elsewhere and talk to someone about Canadian politics.
 

fff

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backhoeboogie said:
fff said:
backhoeboogie said:
Have we not already established that she is not a career politican, a diplomat, and certainly not a democrat and lawyer.

Your lawyer candidates can talk for an hour and never say a thing. Tell me fff, exactly what it is that your boys have promised to do?

She's been in politics since 1992. Obama didn't run for office (and lost) until 2000. So who's the "career" politician?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

She didn't run for president or the senate. She ran for city mayor. Do you call that "career?"

Then she decided to run for governor and I can go with your thoughts there.

Now you're spinning. :D Sarah Palin has been running for public office of one kind of another since 1992. She's held an elected office almost continually since she was 28 years old. She lost her race for Lt Governor or she would have been in office continually. That's a career politician and all your twisting won't change that fact.
 

TexasBred

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fff said:
backhoeboogie said:
fff said:
She's been in politics since 1992. Obama didn't run for office (and lost) until 2000. So who's the "career" politician?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

She didn't run for president or the senate. She ran for city mayor. Do you call that "career?"

Then she decided to run for governor and I can go with your thoughts there.

Now you're spinning. :D Sarah Palin has been running for public office of one kind of another since 1992. She's held an elected office almost continually since she was 28 years old. She lost her race for Lt Governor or she would have been in office continually. That's a career politician and all your twisting won't change that fact.

Ok....yet in other posts you libs say she's not qualified...Guess she needs to rub elbows with the Chicago underworld a while to get real credit for being "exposed".
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
backhoeboogie said:
fff said:
She's been in politics since 1992. Obama didn't run for office (and lost) until 2000. So who's the "career" politician?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

She didn't run for president or the senate. She ran for city mayor. Do you call that "career?"

Then she decided to run for governor and I can go with your thoughts there.

Now you're spinning. :D Sarah Palin has been running for public office of one kind of another since 1992. She's held an elected office almost continually since she was 28 years old. She lost her race for Lt Governor or she would have been in office continually. That's a career politician and all your twisting won't change that fact.

So now you are saying she has experience and is qualified to be Vice President of the U.S.? :wink:
 

nonothing

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
Had Obama said those things the folks here would be all over him.....Since it was Palin and McCain then the spinning starts.....I am Not even sure why you try to show a non conservative side here fff,these folks eyes have blinders on them...Closed minds can never be changed.

Why do you hang out here then? You do not like Conservatives replies but you hang on a message board that is mostly conservatives. You whine about these conservatives talking about what and how they feel. And to top it all off you are not even an American Citizen.

Sounds like to me you just come around to try to spew some anti American hate because you have nothing better to do! :roll:

Otherwise you would do what you do on a message board, Libs spin their side Conservatives spin their side. Libs take up for their views, Conservatives take up for their side.

I guess maybe we could have some sort of affirmative action and import in some more libs or export some Conservatives to make you happy, you may want to suggest that to Macon so you feel more comfy. Or you could stop whining about it, or go elsewhere and talk to someone about Canadian politics.

Aplus I am staying here if for no other reason to piss you off..Oh and I have left you postings/threads about Canada yet you never respond....Even left a thread showing you why Canadians should care about American politics....yet you never bothered to type a single word..Your all talk no substance,but keep pointing out all the good you do ,and keep telling everyone what they should do do...you seem to be good at both...... :roll:
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
fff said:
backhoeboogie said:
She didn't run for president or the senate. She ran for city mayor. Do you call that "career?"

Then she decided to run for governor and I can go with your thoughts there.

Now you're spinning. :D Sarah Palin has been running for public office of one kind of another since 1992. She's held an elected office almost continually since she was 28 years old. She lost her race for Lt Governor or she would have been in office continually. That's a career politician and all your twisting won't change that fact.

So now you are saying she has experience and is qualified to be Vice President of the U.S.? :wink:

Nope. I'm saying she's a professional politician.
 

TexasBred

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Now you're spinning. :D Sarah Palin has been running for public office of one kind of another since 1992. She's held an elected office almost continually since she was 28 years old. She lost her race for Lt Governor or she would have been in office continually. That's a career politician and all your twisting won't change that fact.

So now you are saying she has experience and is qualified to be Vice President of the U.S.? :wink:

Nope. I'm saying she's a professional politician.

Maybe she's a patriot serving her country. I think you have to be a lawyer and a crooked on at that, to be a real politician. :lol: :lol:
 

backhoeboogie

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Now you're spinning. :D Sarah Palin has been running for public office of one kind of another since 1992. She's held an elected office almost continually since she was 28 years old. She lost her race for Lt Governor or she would have been in office continually. That's a career politician and all your twisting won't change that fact.

So now you are saying she has experience and is qualified to be Vice President of the U.S.? :wink:

Nope. I'm saying she's a professional politician.

And you say I am spinning by saying a mayor is not a career.

I'd hate to support a family on a small town mayor's salary. That would not have paid for one year of college for my kids.
 

backhoeboogie

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aplusmnt said:
fff said:
backhoeboogie said:
She didn't run for president or the senate. She ran for city mayor. Do you call that "career?"

Then she decided to run for governor and I can go with your thoughts there.

Now you're spinning. :D Sarah Palin has been running for public office of one kind of another since 1992. She's held an elected office almost continually since she was 28 years old. She lost her race for Lt Governor or she would have been in office continually. That's a career politician and all your twisting won't change that fact.

So now you are saying she has experience and is qualified to be Vice President of the U.S.? :wink:

Her math did point out that she has twice the experience in a political spotlight :D :D
 
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