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Barry soetoro adopted Obama, making him Indonesian

hypocritexposer

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http://decalogosintl.org/documents/Soetoro_Divorce.pdf

Soetoro adopted him! He would have had to legally change his name back, and apply for US citizenship again, becoming naturalized.

If this comes out, their would more "racist" comments and riots, is that why the courts have not heard it yet?
 

Sandhusker

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Barak Obama once was known as Barry Soetero? That just can't be. When he registered for the Illinois Bar in 1991, they ask if he has ever had any former names, and he did not declare any. Not doing so would make him DISHONEST.

OT, Alice, fff, Kolo, please tell us how that isn't so!
 

hypocritexposer

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not only dishonest, but I think it's against the law.

Don't they also ask for election purposes, if you've ever had aliases?

He was British, by birth, Indonesian by adoption, won't produce a valid COLB, and they want us to believe all is kosher?
 

Tam

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Oh quit you whining Oldtimer says it will be OK and we all know Oldtimer doesn't lie either :wink: :lol: :wink: :lol: :wink: [/b]
 

hypocritexposer

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When the Obama campaign, after several unrequited requests, did finally submit the "Certificate of Live Birth", in an effort to more formally properly vet and lend credence to the Senator's run for the Presidency - which governing body did they submit it to? Was it to the Board of Elections? No, not there. Was it to the Federal Elections Commission? No, not there either. Well then it must have been to the Democratic National Committee, right? Wrong again. The Obama campaign chose as their advocate-for-legitimacy, none other than www.factcheck.org . Yes, a non-governing, unofficial website. Adding further mystification and fuel to the "conspiracy whack job" fire....like it or not, www.factcheck.org is a product and entity of the Annenberg Foundation; the very foundation that coupled Barack Obama with Bill Ayers, and Senator Obama worked so vigorously to denounce.
 

Tam

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hypocritexposer said:
When the Obama campaign, after several unrequited requests, did finally submit the "Certificate of Live Birth", in an effort to more formally properly vet and lend credence to the Senator's run for the Presidency - which governing body did they submit it to? Was it to the Board of Elections? No, not there. Was it to the Federal Elections Commission? No, not there either. Well then it must have been to the Democratic National Committee, right? Wrong again. The Obama campaign chose as their advocate-for-legitimacy, none other than www.factcheck.org . Yes, a non-governing, unofficial website. Adding further mystification and fuel to the "conspiracy whack job" fire....like it or not, www.factcheck.org is a product and entity of the Annenberg Foundation; the very foundation that coupled Barack Obama with Bill Ayers, and Senator Obama worked so vigorously to denounce.

I thought this was the independent source that Oldtimer was telling us about. :roll: Wouldn't want it to be a truly independent website now would we Oldtimer? :wink: :roll:
 
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Tam said:
hypocritexposer said:
When the Obama campaign, after several unrequited requests, did finally submit the "Certificate of Live Birth", in an effort to more formally properly vet and lend credence to the Senator's run for the Presidency - which governing body did they submit it to? Was it to the Board of Elections? No, not there. Was it to the Federal Elections Commission? No, not there either. Well then it must have been to the Democratic National Committee, right? Wrong again. The Obama campaign chose as their advocate-for-legitimacy, none other than www.factcheck.org . Yes, a non-governing, unofficial website. Adding further mystification and fuel to the "conspiracy whack job" fire....like it or not, www.factcheck.org is a product and entity of the Annenberg Foundation; the very foundation that coupled Barack Obama with Bill Ayers, and Senator Obama worked so vigorously to denounce.

I thought this was the independent source that Oldtimer was telling us about. :roll: Wouldn't want it to be a truly independent website now would we Oldtimer? :wink: :roll:

Walter Annenberg was a Nixon appointee- and Reagan buddy....He founded ( with the help of Ronald Reagan) the Foundation that Ayers worked for (one of the reasons McCain didn't want to touch the Ayers subject)...
So Tam- your saying not even the wife or foundation of a longtime old Republican/Reagan appointee can be honest- eh :???:


The Annenberg Foundation, a charitable family trust, was created on July 1, 1989 by media magnate and former Ambassador to the Court of St. James's Walter H. Annenberg. Initial funding of $1.2 billion came from the sale of Triangle Publications, the last media property held by Annenberg. The foundation is based in St. David's, Pennsylvania. Currently, The Foundation has a priority on granting funds for reform of elementary and secondary public school systems. The Foundation oversaw the funding of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.

Since its founding, it has awarded over 5,200 grants, which total in excess of $2.8 billion.

The Foundation is known for many cutting edge programs and especially for coining and developing the concept of Project Based Philanthropy. A recent example of this is Not A Cornfield Project in Los Angeles.

The current president, chairman and sole director of the Foundation is Leonore Annenberg, widow of Ambassador Annenberg, and a former United States Chief of Protocol. Their daughter, Wallis Annenberg is the vice president.


Even while an active businessman, Annenberg had an interest in public service. After Richard M. Nixon was elected President, he appointed Annenberg as ambassador to the Court of St. James's in the United Kingdom. In 1969 Annenberg sold The Inquirer and the Philadelphia Daily News, which he bought in 1957, to Knight Newspapers for US$55 million. After being appointed as ambassador, he became quite popular in Britain, eventually being knighted with the Order of the British Empire.

Annenberg led a lavish lifestyle. His "Sunnylands" winter estate in Rancho Mirage, California (near Palm Springs) hosted gatherings with such people as President Ronald Reagan and First Lady Nancy Reagan, Frank Sinatra, Bob Hope, Bing Crosby and Charles, Prince of Wales. It was Annenberg who introduced President Reagan to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, and the Reagans often celebrated New Year's Eve with the Annenbergs. Leonore Annenberg was named by President Ronald Reagan as the State Department's Chief of Protocol as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_H._Annenberg
 

jigs

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OT, you ignorant ass. LOOK at the FACTS. do you not see ONE thing there that points to the remote POSSIBILITY that obmama is cheating his way in? breaking the LAW ? laws that you supposedly use to defend? if this is how you investigate, then no wonder you were not voted in to be sherriff anymore.

you remind me of the line in "Tombstone" .... the judge said, there was no witness, we can not have a murder with out a witness...the defendant is free to go.

sounds like your type of investigation and logical conclusions.
 

fff

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The Supreme Court has ruled that no action of a parent can take away the citizenship of a child. Since Obama was born in a US state, he's a citizen. Nothing his mother or stepfather could do would change that fact.


Loss of nationality, also known as expatriation, means the loss of citizenship status properly acquired, whether by birth in the United States, through birth abroad to U.S. citizen parents, or by naturalization. As a result of several constitutional decisions, §349(a) of the current Immigration and Nationality Act ("INA") provides that U.S. nationality is lost only when the U.S. citizen does one of the specified acts described in INA §349, voluntarily and with the intent to give up that nationality. If any one of these requirements is lacking, nationality is not lost.....

and

....Closely related to need for voluntary action is the requirement that expatriation cannot be accomplished by a citizen who has not attained a specified age of maturity....

http://www.americanlaw.com/dualcit.html

Seven days and counting. :D
 

Sandhusker

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fff said:
The Supreme Court has ruled that no action of a parent can take away the citizenship of a child. Since Obama was born in a US state, he's a citizen. Nothing his mother or stepfather could do would change that fact.


Loss of nationality, also known as expatriation, means the loss of citizenship status properly acquired, whether by birth in the United States, through birth abroad to U.S. citizen parents, or by naturalization. As a result of several constitutional decisions, §349(a) of the current Immigration and Nationality Act ("INA") provides that U.S. nationality is lost only when the U.S. citizen does one of the specified acts described in INA §349, voluntarily and with the intent to give up that nationality. If any one of these requirements is lacking, nationality is not lost.....

and

....Closely related to need for voluntary action is the requirement that expatriation cannot be accomplished by a citizen who has not attained a specified age of maturity....

http://www.americanlaw.com/dualcit.html

Seven days and counting. :D

When has he proved that he was born in the US?
 

fff

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Did you miss that? He proved it the same way Hillary proved it, Biden proved it, McCain proved it, Duncan Hunter proved it, Mitt proved it...... Funny that the only one you question is Obama. Now would that be because he's the only one black? :?
 

Mahoney-Pursley Ranch

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fff said:
The Supreme Court has ruled that no action of a parent can take away the citizenship of a child. Since Obama was born in a US state, he's a citizen. Nothing his mother or stepfather could do would change that fact.


Loss of nationality, also known as expatriation, means the loss of citizenship status properly acquired, whether by birth in the United States, through birth abroad to U.S. citizen parents, or by naturalization. As a result of several constitutional decisions, §349(a) of the current Immigration and Nationality Act ("INA") provides that U.S. nationality is lost only when the U.S. citizen does one of the specified acts described in INA §349, voluntarily and with the intent to give up that nationality. If any one of these requirements is lacking, nationality is not lost.....



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You can quote all the " laws " you want. Most of these types of laws were written to pitter patter around existing laws to provide a loophole for the person of choice at the time. The FACT is that BHO was NOT born a NATURAL citizen of the United States of American as the forefathers who wrote the Constitution intended the wording to mean.
 

Sandhusker

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fff said:
Did you miss that? He proved it the same way Hillary proved it, Biden proved it, McCain proved it, Duncan Hunter proved it, Mitt proved it...... Funny that the only one you question is Obama. Now would that be because he's the only one black? :?

No, it is because he is the only one who's grandmother said she was present at his birth in another country. He is the only one who lived in another country under another name. He is the only one who was enrolled in a school in a country that only enrolls citizens of that country. He's the only one who has fought to keep his cert hidden.

Why do you ignore these obvious differences between the candidates and instead choose to cry wolf? Is it a lack of information, intelligence, or responsibility? What glory is there in intentionally being a fool?
 
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I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

If Obama is not Constitutionally qualified you only have one person to thank for it.....

I, Richard Cheney, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Or the person that as President of the Senate certified him as the President-elect....

I, Michael B. Mukasey, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Or the person that as the highest law enforcement official of the country has the ultimate duty of protecting the Constitution....
 

fff

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Sandhusker said:
fff said:
Did you miss that? He proved it the same way Hillary proved it, Biden proved it, McCain proved it, Duncan Hunter proved it, Mitt proved it...... Funny that the only one you question is Obama. Now would that be because he's the only one black? :?

No, it is because he is the only one who's grandmother said she was present at his birth in another country. He is the only one who lived in another country under another name. He is the only one who was enrolled in a school in a country that only enrolls citizens of that country. He's the only one who has fought to keep his cert hidden.

Why do you ignore these obvious differences between the candidates and instead choose to cry wolf? Is it a lack of information, intelligence, or responsibility? What glory is there in intentionally being a fool?


Show me his grandmother saying she was present at his birth. The person who made those claims has promised over and over to release the tape "soon". So far it hasn't shown up, just like the tape of Michelle Obama saying "whitey". It's all a lie. You are either stupid to believe them or complicit in passing them on. Either way, you're a sad case. He'll be sworn in as the next President of the United States, God help him.

Obama has not fought to keep his certificate secret. He released documentation showing he was born in Hawaii and it was called a fraud. He's smart enough to know that people like you would simply ignore anything he releases. So why bother with a few fools? State officials in Hawaii say he has a valid birth certificate on file. Why are you calling them liars? He has no obligation to prove anything to you or the other racists on this board.

On the other hand, no one has offered a shred of actual proof that he was born anywhere but Hawaii, as he claims. Show me something from a reliable source that shows he was born somewhere else.

But it is cheering to see that some people apparently accent that he was born an American citizen, but lost that citizenship because he was adopted. Since that can't happen, apparently they're stuck with their contention that he was actually born a US citizen. :lol:
 

TSR

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Oldtimer said:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

If Obama is not Constitutionally qualified you only have one person to thank for it.....

I, Richard Cheney, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Or the person that as President of the Senate certified him as the President-elect....

I, Michael B. Mukasey, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Or the person that as the highest law enforcement official of the country has the ultimate duty of protecting the Constitution....

Otimer You can't trust those three guys. I know you've figured that out over the last 8yrs and especially the last several months. I wonder if they would have standing to contest anything. Sarcasm intended!
 
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TSR said:
Oldtimer said:
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States.

If Obama is not Constitutionally qualified you only have one person to thank for it.....

I, Richard Cheney, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Or the person that as President of the Senate certified him as the President-elect....

I, Michael B. Mukasey, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

Or the person that as the highest law enforcement official of the country has the ultimate duty of protecting the Constitution....

Otimer You can't trust those three guys. I know you've figured that out over the last 8yrs and especially the last several months. I wonder if they would have standing to contest anything. Sarcasm intended!

Yep-- but I know Bush/Cheney are snidely enough to have used every CIA operative, FBI agent, political debt, and source thats available to them to fully vet this issue if they truly thought it was a way to keep Obama out-- and would have brought it forward if it existed....

If you'd saw the look on Cheney's face (scowl) as he was standing up there having to certify Obama, with Nancy Pelosi shouldering up next to him leading the standing ovation- you'd be convinced this is a nonissue...
 

Lonecowboy

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Oldtimer said:
TSR said:
Oldtimer said:
If Obama is not Constitutionally qualified you only have one person to thank for it.....



Or the person that as President of the Senate certified him as the President-elect....



Or the person that as the highest law enforcement official of the country has the ultimate duty of protecting the Constitution....

Otimer You can't trust those three guys. I know you've figured that out over the last 8yrs and especially the last several months. I wonder if they would have standing to contest anything. Sarcasm intended!

Yep-- but I know Bush/Cheney are snidely enough to have used every CIA operative, FBI agent, political debt, and source thats available to them to fully vet this issue if they truly thought it was a way to keep Obama out-- and would have brought it forward if it existed....

If you'd saw the look on Cheney's face (scowl) as he was standing up there having to certify Obama, with Nancy Pelosi shouldering up next to him leading the standing ovation- you'd be convinced this is a nonissue...

OT, you always seem to forget that bush-cheney- obama are cousins!!
 
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Lonecowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
TSR said:
Otimer You can't trust those three guys. I know you've figured that out over the last 8yrs and especially the last several months. I wonder if they would have standing to contest anything. Sarcasm intended!

Yep-- but I know Bush/Cheney are snidely enough to have used every CIA operative, FBI agent, political debt, and source thats available to them to fully vet this issue if they truly thought it was a way to keep Obama out-- and would have brought it forward if it existed....

If you'd saw the look on Cheney's face (scowl) as he was standing up there having to certify Obama, with Nancy Pelosi shouldering up next to him leading the standing ovation- you'd be convinced this is a nonissue...

OT, you always seem to forget that bush-cheney- obama are cousins!!

Maybe thats it-- I always said Bush/Cheney/Rove sold the Republican party/nation down the sewer....I always thought it was because of their elitist rich corporate buddies and their big donations-- but maybe it was for blood instead.... :???: :wink:

Somehow I can't envision them as "kissing cousins"...Now if you added Rove (Miss Piggy in the gay circles) then it would be clear.... :wink: :lol:
 

Sandhusker

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OT, "If Obama is not Constitutionally qualified you only have one person to thank for it..... "

Yes; OBAMA. When somebody robs a liquor store, it's not the fault of the liquor store owner, the gun maker, the cop who wasn't on the scene, ect.... The ONE person to blame is the thief! Have you ever heard of personal responsibility?
 
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