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Benefits: Adult vs. Embryonic

Red Robin

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
Red Robin said:
Work Hard and Study Hard said:
You either believe what the Bible says or you don't.

Who the hell do you think you are to tell me what I can and can't believe? You might not agree with my beliefs and I don't with yours. But I am not telling you what to believe, I am giving you reasons why I believe the way i do. This seems to be the way you relegious right fanatics operate. It's not really your fault you were brainwashed into believing you are superior, I guess in a way being to stubborn to realize how ignorant you and your party sound must be defensive evolution at work.
Ignorance? Hmmmm how would you evolutionists explain the fact that unfossilize T-Rex bones have been found ? 65million years old indeed. I think you are the one that is showing their ignorance. BTW how would you define a Christian if you don't like my definition?
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

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Red Robin said:
Are you saying whsh that you belive parts of the Bible to be true but other parts are a lie?

Not a lie so much as misinterpreted. You know the bible was written and translated thousands of times, each man that translated had his own spin on it. I'm not going to see things with my own eyes and hear things with my own ears and be told I'm not seeing them and i'm not hearing it because an old book that's been proven "misinterpreted" many times says it is.
 

Steve

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WHSH
Then you would have to assume Noah or Mrs. Noah sat on the eggs to hatch them.

I would think they would lay the little tiger cub on them......

there are many Christians who can not accept the Bible stories, as fact,...for many reasons.

I tend to rely on faith,..and an understanding that there is much more to be learned.

I will not discount the bible stories based on a lack of evidence....thus Faith....

Just as I don't accept all the scientists theories, that are not proven to be facts.,..because they lack evidence....

Just part of reconciling faith in a difficult world....Christians at different places in their faith journey arguing with each over two theories one of faith, and one of science that both lack worldly evidence , is not helpful.

GOD gave us enough information to understand what he wanted to tell us, that those who believe and follow his word will be saved,...as for the others....well learn to tread water...
 

aplusmnt

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
Red Robin said:
Are you saying whsh that you belive parts of the Bible to be true but other parts are a lie?

Not a lie so much as misinterpreted. You know the bible was written and translated thousands of times, each man that translated had his own spin on it. I'm not going to see things with my own eyes and hear things with my own ears and be told I'm not seeing them and i'm not hearing it because an old book that's been proven "misinterpreted" many times says it is.

There is some very basic widely used versions of the bible. But all in all they are almost exactly similiar. Most any scripture will say the same thing. What you have to understand is the Bible was written in Greek, Hebrew and Arabic. Unless you wish to learn them languages then you have to rely on it being translated into English. Not Interpreted but Translated. Not all words had direct translation into Englis so there is some variations in different versions of the Bible. But it is so small it makes very little difference.

The bottom line is God made sure we have the tools to learn about him if we have the right heart and are Humble enough to learn instead of thinking we know everything.

I will give you an Example in the King James Version of the Bible you will notice that sometimes the Word God or Lord will be ALL CAPS and sometimes it will be only the G or L will be Capitalized. Here you will find some freedom taken in translating. When it is ALL CAPS it is were the original YHWH was found in the transcript meaning God Name, some believe it to be Yahweh some Jehovah but I believe there is no vowels in the originals some freedom had to be taken in the Translation. So King James Version just ALL CAPED IT as the reference to Gods name. Many do not know this and could call it a misinterpretation.

But the point is that God gives us the ability to study and know such things if we truly want to. The truth can be found in most all bibles, with the exception of some really twisted off the wall versions that are not very widely used.

Here is an example of a scripture like I am referring to:

Leviticus 19:1,2

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am
 

nonothing

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aplusmnt said:
Work Hard and Study Hard said:
Red Robin said:
Are you saying whsh that you belive parts of the Bible to be true but other parts are a lie?

Not a lie so much as misinterpreted. You know the bible was written and translated thousands of times, each man that translated had his own spin on it. I'm not going to see things with my own eyes and hear things with my own ears and be told I'm not seeing them and i'm not hearing it because an old book that's been proven "misinterpreted" many times says it is.

There is some very basic widely used versions of the bible. But all in all they are almost exactly similiar. Most any scripture will say the same thing. What you have to understand is the Bible was written in Greek, Hebrew and Arabic. Unless you wish to learn them languages then you have to rely on it being translated into English. Not Interpreted but Translated. Not all words had direct translation into Englis so there is some variations in different versions of the Bible. But it is so small it makes very little difference.

The bottom line is God made sure we have the tools to learn about him if we have the right heart and are Humble enough to learn instead of thinking we know everything.

I will give you an Example in the King James Version of the Bible you will notice that sometimes the Word God or Lord will be ALL CAPS and sometimes it will be only the G or L will be Capitalized. Here you will find some freedom taken in translating. When it is ALL CAPS it is were the original YHWH was found in the transcript meaning God Name, some believe it to be Yahweh some Jehovah but I believe there is no vowels in the originals some freedom had to be taken in the Translation. So King James Version just ALL CAPED IT as the reference to Gods name. Many do not know this and could call it a misinterpretation.

But the point is that God gives us the ability to study and know such things if we truly want to. The truth can be found in most all bibles, with the exception of some really twisted off the wall versions that are not very widely used.

Here is an example of a scripture like I am referring to:

Leviticus 19:1,2

And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 2 Speak unto all the congregation of the children of Israel, and say unto them, Ye shall be holy: for I the LORD your God am

So says you Aplus,as WHSH mentioned it has been interpreted by many up to today...Now your just another interpreter,who claims to know the answer,How close is the text your quoting to the original text.?You could not possibly know that..To believe is called faith and either one has it or not.Asking questions is part of freedom to choose,now we all know who gave us that ability,right????
 

nonothing

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Steve said:
WHSH
Then you would have to assume Noah or Mrs. Noah sat on the eggs to hatch them.

I would think they would lay the little tiger cub on them......

there are many Christians who can not accept the Bible stories, as fact,...for many reasons.

I tend to rely on faith,..and an understanding that there is much more to be learned.

I will not discount the bible stories based on a lack of evidence....thus Faith....

Just as I don't accept all the scientists theories, that are not proven to be facts.,..because they lack evidence....

Just part of reconciling faith in a difficult world....Christians at different places in their faith journey arguing with each over two theories one of faith, and one of science that both lack worldly evidence , is not helpful.

GOD gave us enough information to understand what he wanted to tell us, that those who believe and follow his word will be saved,...as for the others....well learn to tread water...

Very well said Steve........Only one thing to add.... Your idea may work as long as the tiger cub is not hungry or then you may want to go with a Rabbit... :)
 

memanpa

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
Red Robin said:
Work Hard and Study Hard said:
You either believe what the Bible says or you don't.

Who the hell do you think you are to tell me what I can and can't believe? You might not agree with my beliefs and I don't with yours. But I am not telling you what to believe, I am giving you reasons why I believe the way i do. This seems to be the way you relegious right fanatics operate. It's not really your fault you were brainwashed into believing you are superior, I guess in a way being to stubborn to realize how ignorant you and your party sound must be defensive evolution at work.

You either believe what the Bible says or you don't

where does this statment say you have to beleive in anything ? it merely states either you do or you don't :shock:
 

kolanuraven

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And...there's a error also!!!!


movin' on wrote:
Ok than...define "good".



I found one....I found one....I found one!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Soapweed

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kolanuraven said:
And...there's a error also!!!!


movin' on wrote:
Ok than...define "good".



I found one....I found one....I found one!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I did, too. I did, too. :) Just funnin' ya, Kola.
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
So says you Aplus,as WHSH mentioned it has been interpreted by many up to today...Now your just another interpreter,who claims to know the answer,How close is the text your quoting to the original text.?You could not possibly know that..To believe is called faith and either one has it or not.Asking questions is part of freedom to choose,now we all know who gave us that ability,right????

Faith is not just enough, a person has to have Knowledge and obedience. Even the Devil has faith that there is a God, he just chooses not to be obedient.

You can have the freedom to believe as you wish, that is an American Liberty. But with that Freedom comes consequences of your actions. And only you will answer for them. So be as free as you want and believe however you want, it is no skin off my nose!
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

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aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
So says you Aplus,as WHSH mentioned it has been interpreted by many up to today...Now your just another interpreter,who claims to know the answer,How close is the text your quoting to the original text.?You could not possibly know that..To believe is called faith and either one has it or not.Asking questions is part of freedom to choose,now we all know who gave us that ability,right????

Faith is not just enough, a person has to have Knowledge and obedience. Even the Devil has faith that there is a God, he just chooses not to be obedient.

You can have the freedom to believe as you wish, that is an American Liberty. But with that Freedom comes consequences of your actions. And only you will answer for them. So be as free as you want and believe however you want, it is no skin off my nose!

God gave us the ability to think and reason. You can stick to your bible tales, i'll use what he gave us.
 

Red Robin

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
aplusmnt said:
nonothing said:
So says you Aplus,as WHSH mentioned it has been interpreted by many up to today...Now your just another interpreter,who claims to know the answer,How close is the text your quoting to the original text.?You could not possibly know that..To believe is called faith and either one has it or not.Asking questions is part of freedom to choose,now we all know who gave us that ability,right????

Faith is not just enough, a person has to have Knowledge and obedience. Even the Devil has faith that there is a God, he just chooses not to be obedient.

You can have the freedom to believe as you wish, that is an American Liberty. But with that Freedom comes consequences of your actions. And only you will answer for them. So be as free as you want and believe however you want, it is no skin off my nose!

God gave us the ability to think and reason. You can stick to your bible tales, i'll use what he gave us.
That was cains plan. If I were you , I'd go with what Jesus says.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

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Red Robin said:
Work Hard and Study Hard said:
aplusmnt said:
Faith is not just enough, a person has to have Knowledge and obedience. Even the Devil has faith that there is a God, he just chooses not to be obedient.

You can have the freedom to believe as you wish, that is an American Liberty. But with that Freedom comes consequences of your actions. And only you will answer for them. So be as free as you want and believe however you want, it is no skin off my nose!

God gave us the ability to think and reason. You can stick to your bible tales, i'll use what he gave us.
That was cains plan. If I were you , I'd go with what Jesus says.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You self righteous bible thumping hypocrites really amuse me.
 

Red Robin

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I am a Bible thumper. You however are the one claiming self righteousness. I am on the Christ is righteous plan. Glad you are amused. Have a good day.
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

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Red Robin said:
I am a Bible thumper. You however are the one claiming self righteousness. I am on the Christ is righteous plan. Glad you are amused. Have a good day.

Self righteous? NO. I say believe what you want. My party is not the ones trying to blur the line between church and state. Our forefathers put that in there for a reason. I do not need the 10 commandments in the courtroom, the classroom, or the workplace to know what they are to live by them. Your kind only pushes the envelope to see how far they can go to piss people off. Fighting to put relegion into governments is a waste of time and tax dollars not to mention a bad idea.
 

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