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Benefits: Adult vs. Embryonic

Work Hard and Study Hard

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movin' on said:
By the way Nonothing....probably everyone on this board has that inner struggle you talk about at some point. I know I have and sometimes still do. Faith is a fickle friend and doubt is bound to show up every now and then. A lot of things can't be "proved" and faith is sometimes the only way to accept/understand things.

I believe in faith, I believe in miracles. But to get back to the substance of this thread god gave us faith in the doctors and the miracle to make those that can't remember.......remember, those that can't walk........walk. Who are you to say that god's way of helping people is not through stem cell research? I believe that if we have the technology to help people god gave us the ability and I will not let an old book written 2000 years ago sway my opinion, that my friends is FAITH.
 

aplusmnt

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
movin' on said:
By the way Nonothing....probably everyone on this board has that inner struggle you talk about at some point. I know I have and sometimes still do. Faith is a fickle friend and doubt is bound to show up every now and then. A lot of things can't be "proved" and faith is sometimes the only way to accept/understand things.

I believe in faith, I believe in miracles. But to get back to the substance of this thread god gave us faith in the doctors and the miracle to make those that can't remember.......remember, those that can't walk........walk. Who are you to say that god's way of helping people is not through stem cell research? I believe that if we have the technology to help people god gave us the ability and I will not let an old book written 2000 years ago sway my opinion, that my friends is FAITH.

How do you know God gave us any of those things? You say you have no trust in the Bible. So Basically all you have is Faith in a God, you have no knowledge of what God gave us or what he expects of us. You see that is all Knowledge given in the 2,000 year old book you do not trust.

So really you do not know if he gave us doctors, rather he expects us to trust them. Really you know diddly squat because you only confess faith not Knowledge.
 

Work Hard and Study Hard

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aplusmnt said:
Work Hard and Study Hard said:
movin' on said:
By the way Nonothing....probably everyone on this board has that inner struggle you talk about at some point. I know I have and sometimes still do. Faith is a fickle friend and doubt is bound to show up every now and then. A lot of things can't be "proved" and faith is sometimes the only way to accept/understand things.

I believe in faith, I believe in miracles. But to get back to the substance of this thread god gave us faith in the doctors and the miracle to make those that can't remember.......remember, those that can't walk........walk. Who are you to say that god's way of helping people is not through stem cell research? I believe that if we have the technology to help people god gave us the ability and I will not let an old book written 2000 years ago sway my opinion, that my friends is FAITH.


How do you know God gave us any of those things? You say you have no trust in the Bible. So Basically all you have is Faith in a God, you have no knowledge of what God gave us or what he expects of us. You see that is all Knowledge given in the 2,000 year old book you do not trust.

So really you do not know if he gave us doctors, rather he expects us to trust them. Really you know diddly squat because you only confess faith not Knowledge.

It seems to me your faith is lacking. That is fine, i'll concede your knowledge from the bible and trump you on FAITH.
 

aplusmnt

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Work Hard and Study Hard said:
aplusmnt said:
Work Hard and Study Hard said:
I believe in faith, I believe in miracles. But to get back to the substance of this thread god gave us faith in the doctors and the miracle to make those that can't remember.......remember, those that can't walk........walk. Who are you to say that god's way of helping people is not through stem cell research? I believe that if we have the technology to help people god gave us the ability and I will not let an old book written 2000 years ago sway my opinion, that my friends is FAITH.


How do you know God gave us any of those things? You say you have no trust in the Bible. So Basically all you have is Faith in a God, you have no knowledge of what God gave us or what he expects of us. You see that is all Knowledge given in the 2,000 year old book you do not trust.

So really you do not know if he gave us doctors, rather he expects us to trust them. Really you know diddly squat because you only confess faith not Knowledge.

It seems to me your faith is lacking. That is fine, i'll concede your knowledge from the bible and trump you on FAITH.

What do you have faith in? Did a Monkey God create you? Did you come from Aliens? Did a Big Chicken come lay and egg years ago that evolved into mankind?

What is it exactly you have faith in? And remember it can not be anything in the Bible because that is a book written 2,000 years ago that you put no faith in. So what exactly is it you have faith in??

What God do you have faith in? There is many Gods, which one do you choose to have faith in? And how did you come to the conclusion in what God you have Faith in?
 

nonothing

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movin' on said:
Soapweed, Steve, and Red Robin....thank you for caring enough to share the truth with others. Nonothing, if there was ever a time to lay aside your differences with these three and listen to what they are saying, it is now! They are talking to you not as republican/democrat or liberal/conservative but rather friend/friend. They genuinely have your best interest and eternity in mind and are trying to help. Take their advice and then decide for yourself. It might be the best thing you've ever done!

I have taken their words to mind....As I have many knowledgeable people in the past...As I said before here...I liking my take on God as to flying a kite in the fog,"I cannot see the kite, but i know it is there,cause i can feel the tugging on the end of the string".It is just a part of me that finds pieces of the bible just to far fetched to believe......I hope to one day find myself the answers to what Steve noted me as "struggling to accept"....(That's not a shot at Steve,he just worded it better than i could)....

I thank all who cared enough to put aside their issues with me and tried to help me look for an answer or at least given me an avenue to try to find an answer.At the same time showing me that I am not the only one who is at times caught in-between....
 

Red Robin

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Faith isn't a noun. Faith is a word that needs an object to have faith in. Generally it is faith that God will keep his word. When he tells me if I trust in Christ's finished work on the cross, he'll forgive my sins. I believe him and have faith that he'll keep his word. I can have faith that the sun will never set again and shine day and night. God hasn't promised that though and my faith is futile. I can have faith that I am going to start growing again at my age. God hasn't promised that and I won't. I can have faith if I send 20 bucks to a televangelist that I'll become rich but God hasn't said I would so the 20 bucks will have no bearing on my money or lack of it. Faith is a misused word.
 

Steve

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NoNothing
As I said before here...I liking my take on God as to flying a kite in the fog,"I cannot see the kite, but i know it is there,cause i can feel the tugging on the end of the string".

good analogy, But the tugging on the string gives you a feeling something is up there, for some they can't even grasp the string....

It is just a part of me that finds pieces of the bible just to far fetched to believe...

If you have Faith, then you can "Believe in order that you may understand",..

.In essence, faith must be present in order to know anything further. In other words, one must assume, believe, or have faith in the credibility of a person, place, thing, or idea in order to have a basis for knowledge. So Faith is the first part of the Journey to understanding and Knowledge...
 

schnurrbart

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If you read fiction books and are interested in genetics and stem cell topics, Michael Crichton's NEXT is a great read. It IS fiction now so don't anyone start giving me grief about it. Just a very good story so far. Not finished with it yet. He wrote JURASSIC PARK for those of you who don't recognize the name.
 

schnurrbart

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Steve said:
NoNothing
As I said before here...I liking my take on God as to flying a kite in the fog,"I cannot see the kite, but i know it is there,cause i can feel the tugging on the end of the string".

good analogy, But the tugging on the string gives you a feeling something is up there, for some they can't even grasp the string....

It is just a part of me that finds pieces of the bible just to far fetched to believe...

If you have Faith, then you can "Believe in order that you may understand",..

.In essence, faith must be present in order to know anything further. In other words, one must assume, believe, or have faith in the credibility of a person, place, thing, or idea in order to have a basis for knowledge. So Faith is the first part of the Journey to understanding and Knowledge...

"Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Hebrews 11:1
 

Steve

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Schnurrbart
Michael Crichton's NEXT is a great read.

During his career, Crichton has relentlessly propagandized on behalf of one big idea: that experts--scientists, intellectuals, and reporters, ---are spectacularly corrupt and spectacularly wrong.

KolanuRaven proved that to us long ago.....but with a different tactic.... :lol: :lol: :lol:





I do need to get the book it does sound interesting....and seems to point out my concern....how far will it get pushed, and at what point will people be forced to comply????
 

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