Big lies of 2005

[Disagreeable]

Link to full list below.
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"In compiling this year's list, I had the highest number of entries for the category, "Biggest Lie." I chose the White House declaration that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby had nothing to do with leaking the identity of a covert CIA agent. They were the principal participants in the effort to discredit former ambassador Joe Wilson because he had raised doubts about one of the pillars of their argument for war, namely that Iraq had tried to buy yellowcake uranium to make a bomb.

Another favorite—heard all the time from the White House—is that "everybody saw the same intelligence we did." Members of Congress don't see the President's Daily Briefing (one of them was the glossed-over pre-9/11 document that warned "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the U.S."), and they didn't see all the qualifying caveats about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, or the doubts about the credibility of the sources the administration was relying on.

Bush is good at stating the obviously untrue. "We do not torture," he declared despite ample evidence to the contrary from Abu Ghraib to Guantanamo to secret prisons in Eastern Europe. Vice President Cheney went to Capitol Hill repeatedly to lobby for the U.S. right to torture, capitulating only when the vote went against him 90 to 9. Sen. John McCain, who was tortured when held prisoner during the Vietnam War, took on Bush's No. 2 and stood up for democratic principles. It's a wonder Cheney has any credibility left after assuring the country in May, "the insurgency is in its last throes."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10578257/site/newsweek/

 

[MsSage]

Another favorite—heard all the time from the White House—is that "everybody saw the same intelligence we did." Members of Congress don't see the President's Daily Briefing (one of them was the glossed-over pre-9/11 document that warned "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the U.S."), and they didn't see all the qualifying caveats about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, or the doubts about the credibility of the sources the administration was relying on.

Have some reading for you and if you look one of the main source was Clintons advisor to Iraq.

http://www.intelmessages.org/Messages/National_Security/wwwboard/messages/857.html

http://www.fas.org/irp/news/1999/01/990127-in.htm

http://ropma.net/iraq_sponsors_terrorism.htm

Here is one from CBS

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/09/05/september11/main520874.shtml
Yes these are "old" articles BUT they predate Bush and they give proof that Iraq and 9/11 are joined at the hip.

 

[Itrap4u]

Spoken like a true liberial disagreeable!!!!

Lets not remember durring the election cycle ALL the talk we heard from Kerry and many other Dems on the fact that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and that he is a murderer and needs to be dealt with, that Saddam has weapons we know it! Kerry " I voted for the war before I voted gainst the war" If I had to vote again I would vote for the war or wait now is it I would vote against the war? If they didn't see the documents or hear the intel then why come out to the public with such a strong stance? VOTES !!!!!!! HA HA

The torture issue were did that all start from? Hasn't been talked about in years now all the sudden we are talking about the torture the US has been doing? Yet let's not show the US people all the beheadings and such taking place in the middle east by our enemies aginst our own people? A joke and smoke screen by the liberials to deflect away from the good taking place!

If you can define torture then we have a discussion and then also we can't use interrogation methods, but out enemys can be head our people? Or will they stop when they find out our new kinder/gentler policy? If you believe they will I have a 100 acres of prime swamp ground for sale LOL.

I don't call having grown men in the nude and photos torture, in some cultures that is a form of art and others just called porn LOL! Liberials have their heads and minds so far removed from it all it is kind of scary.

 

[Liberty Belle]

Good post MsSage, but don't expect ol' dis to have much to say. He/she/it never does when presented with anything that counters it's preconceived ideas. Normally a story from CBS is right up ol' dis' alley, but dis can't handle truth no matter who presents it.

 

[Cal]

Another favorite—heard all the time from the White House—is that "everybody saw the same intelligence we did." Members of Congress don't see the President's Daily Briefing (one of them was the glossed-over pre-9/11 document that warned "Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the U.S."), and they didn't see all the qualifying caveats about Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction, or the doubts about the credibility of the sources the administration was relying on.

THE FOLLOWING is an excerpt from comment Vice President Cheney made:

"... The suggestion that's been made by some U. S. senators that the President of the United States or any member of this Administration purposely misled the American people on pre-war intelligence is one of the most dishonest and reprehensible charges ever aired in this city...

Some of the most irresponsible comments have, of course, come from politicians who actually voted in favor of authorizing force against Saddam Hussein. These are elected officials who had access to the intelligence, and were free to draw their own conclusions.

They arrived at the same judgment about Iraq's capabilities and intentions that was made by this Administration and by the previous Administration. There was broad-based, bipartisan agreement that Saddam Hussein was a threat … that he had violated U.N. Security Council Resolutions … and that, in a post-9/11 world, we couldn't afford to take the word of a dictator who had a history of WMD programs, who had excluded weapons inspectors, who had defied the demands of the international community, who had been designated an official state sponsor of terror, and who had committed mass murder.

Those are facts.

What we're hearing now is some politicians contradicting their own statements and making a play for political advantage in the middle of a war. The saddest part is that our people in uniform have been subjected to these cynical and pernicious falsehoods day in and day out. American soldiers and Marines are out there every day in dangerous conditions and desert temperatures – conducting raids, training Iraqi forces, countering attacks, seizing weapons, and capturing killers – and back home a few opportunists are suggesting they were sent into battle for a lie.

The President and I cannot prevent certain politicians from losing their memory, or their backbone – but we're not going to sit by and let them rewrite history."