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redrobin

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only in a fairy tale



from world net daily

A team of attorneys is jumping to the defense of a scientist who made the stunning discovery of soft tissue still attached to a triceratops skeleton, undermining the belief that dinosaurs roamed earth 60 million years ago, and was then fired.

Officials at the Pacific Justice Institute said their case on behalf of Mark Armitage includes an allegation that an official of the university where Mark Armitage worked shouted at him, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department!”

The legal action against California State University Northridge was filed recently in Los Angeles County Superior Court against the board of trustees and alleges discrimination.

“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” said Brad Dacus, PJI president.

“But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wakeup call and warning to the entire world of academia,” he said.

Armitage’s lawyers said he was at a dig in the Hell Creek formation in Montana in 2012 when he came up with “the largest triceratops horn ever unearthed at the site.

Later, while examining the specimen under a high-powered microscope at CSUN, he was fascinated to see the soft tissue that remained.

“The discovery stunned members of the scientific community because it indicates that dinosaurs roamed the earth only thousands of years in the past rather than going extinct 60 million years ago,” the legal team explained.

Armitage, a published scientist of over 30 years, then was dismissed when CSUN abruptly claimed his appointment at the university of 38 months had been temporary, and there was no funding for his position.

Ever wonder about evolution, and all those millions of years? Find out the truth at WND’s Superstore, where books and videos include “Evolution: A Fairy Tale for Grownups,” “Evolution: The Grand Experiment,” “Intelligent Design vs. Evolution” and “The Greatest Hoax on Earth,” and many more.

The lawyers said that contradicted prior statements and documents from the university.

According to Armitage’s biography, he had been serving as the manager for the Electron and Confocal Microscopy Suite in the school’s biology department.

That’s where he was working when his discovery of the soft tissue was published in Acta Histochemica.

He previously found two new species of trematodes and reported the discovery of new hosts for several trematodes. He also discovered short half-life radiohalos in clear diamonds.

He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the board of directors since 2006. He’s also in the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.

His graduate degrees are from Liberty University. His articles have been published in American Laboratory, Southern California Academy of Sciences Bulletin, Parasitology Research, Microscopy and Microanalysis and Microscopy Today.

Michael Peffer, staff attorney with PJI’s southern California office, said, “It has become apparent that ‘diversity’ and ‘intellectual curiosity,’ so often touted as hallmarks of a university education, do not apply to those with a religious point of view. This suit was filed, in part, to vindicate those ideals.”

According to a CBS report in Los Angeles, CSUN spokeswoman Carmen Ramos Chandler said Armitage was a a temporary hire between 2010-2013.

According to the complaint, Armitage told university officials when he applied for the “permanent, part-time” position that he had published work regarding creationism, but he got the job anyway.

School officials previously had described him as “tops … He has patience, great expertise and practices great care.”

His work gradually took on more and more responsibility, and was expanded beyond his half-time original schedule, the complaint explains.

But his discovery of the soft tissue, which according to most scientific perspectives should have decayed into nothingness millions of years ago, send a shock wave through the department where he worked.

While Armitage was told it wasn’t an issue, only a few months later a “secret” meeting was held by faculty members where they allegedly decided to get rid of him, the complaint notes.

The action alleges discrimination based on religion, wrongful termination, retaliation, violations of academic freedom and free speech, and he subsequently was granted a “right to sue” from the Department of Fair Employment and Housing.

CBS reported that later other researchers noted that soft tissue also was found on the bones of a Tyrannosaurus rex, but they explained that by saying iron in the dinosaur’s body preserved the tissue.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/scientist-fired-for-making-dinosaur-discovery/#ULLygmuQMxTtsVVs.99
 

Mike

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The controversial discovery of 68-million-year-old soft tissue from the bones of a Tyrannosaurus rex finally has a physical explanation. According to new research, iron in the dinosaur's body preserved the tissue before it could decay.

The research, headed by Mary Schweitzer, a molecular paleontologist at North Carolina State University, explains how proteins and possibly even DNA can survive millennia. Schweitzer and her colleagues first raised this question in 2005, when they found the seemingly impossible: soft tissue preserved inside the leg of an adolescent T. rex unearthed in Montana.

"What we found was unusual, because it was still soft and still transparent and still flexible," Schweitzer told LiveScience.

T. rex tissue?
The find was also controversial, because scientists had thought proteins that make up soft tissue should degrade in less than 1 million years in the best of conditions. In most cases, microbes feast on a dead animal's soft tissue, destroying it within weeks. The tissue must be something else, perhaps the product of a later bacterial invasion, critics argued.

'For 300 years, we thought, "Well, the organics are all gone" ... so nobody looks.'
- Mary Schweitzer, a molecular paleontologist at North Carolina State University

Then, in 2007, Schweitzer and her colleagues analyzed the chemistry of the T. rex proteins. They found the proteins really did come from dinosaur soft tissue. The tissue was collagen, they reported in the journal Science, and it shared similarities with bird collagen which makes sense, as modern birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs such as T. rex.

The researchers also analyzed other fossils for the presence of soft tissue, and found it was present in about half of their samples going back to the Jurassic Period, which lasted from 145.5 million to 199.6 million years ago, Schweitzer said.

"The problem is, for 300 years, we thought, 'Well, the organics are all gone, so why should we look for something that's not going to be there?' and nobody looks," she said.

The obvious question, though, was how soft, pliable tissue could survive for millions of years. In a new study published Tuesday, Nov. 26, in the journal Proceedings of the Royal Society B: Biological Sciences, Schweitzer thinks she has the answer: Iron.

Iron lady
Iron is an element present in abundance in the body, particularly in the blood, where it is part of the protein that carries oxygen from the lungs to the tissues. Iron is also highly reactive with other molecules, so the body keeps it locked up tight, bound to molecules that prevent it from wreaking havoc on the tissues.

After death, though, iron is let free from its cage. It forms minuscule iron nanoparticles and also generates free radicals, which are highly reactive molecules thought to be involved in aging.

"The free radicals cause proteins and cell membranes to tie in knots," Schweitzer said. "They basically act like formaldehyde."

Formaldehyde, of course, preserves tissue. It works by linking up, or cross-linking, the amino acids that make up proteins, which makes those proteins more resistant to decay.

Schweitzer and her colleagues found that dinosaur soft tissue is closely associated with iron nanoparticles in both the T. rex and another soft-tissue specimen from Brachylophosaurus canadensis, a type of duck-billed dinosaur. They then tested the iron-as-preservative idea using modern ostrich blood vessels. They soaked one group of blood vessels in iron-rich liquid made of red blood cells and another group in water. The blood vessels left in water turned into a disgusting mess within days. The blood vessels soaked in red blood cells remain recognizable after sitting at room temperature for two years.

Dinosaurs' iron-rich blood, combined with a good environment for fossilization, may explain the amazing existence of soft tissue from the Cretaceous (a period that lasted from about 65.5 million to 145.5 million years ago) and even earlier. The specimens Schweitzer works with, including skin, show evidence of excellent preservation. The bones of these various specimens are articulated, not scattered, suggesting they were buried quickly. They're also buried in sandstone, which is porous and may wick away bacteria and reactive enzymes that would otherwise degrade the bone.

Schweitzer is set to search for more dinosaur soft tissue this summer. "I'd like to find a honking big T. rex that's completely articulated that's still in the ground, or something similar," she said. To preserve the chemistry of potential soft tissue, the specimens must not be treated with preservatives or glue, as most fossil bones are, she said. And they need to be tested quickly, as soft tissue could degrade once exposed to modern air and humidity.

Importantly, Schweitzer and her colleagues have figured out how to remove the iron from their samples, which enables them to analyze the original proteins. They've even found chemical reactions consistent with the presence of DNA, though Schweitzer is quick to note that she hasn't proven DNA is really present. The iron-removing techniques should allow paleontologists to search more effectively for soft tissue, and to test it when they find it.

"Once we can get the chemistry behind some of these soft tissues, there's all sorts of questions we can ask of ancient organisms," Schweitzer said.

Copyright 2013 LiveScience, a TechMediaNetwork company. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 

kolanuraven

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redrobin said:
only in a fairy tale



from world net daily

A team of attorneys is jumping to the defense of a scientist who made the stunning discovery of soft tissue still attached to a triceratops skeleton, undermining the belief that dinosaurs roamed earth 60 million years ago, and was then fired.

Officials at the Pacific Justice Institute said their case on behalf of Mark Armitage includes an allegation that an official of the university where Mark Armitage worked shouted at him, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department!”

The legal action against California State University Northridge was filed recently in Los Angeles County Superior Court against the board of trustees and alleges discrimination.

“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” said Brad Dacus, PJI president.

“But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wakeup call and warning to the entire world of academia,” he said.

Armitage’s lawyers said he was at a dig in the Hell Creek formation in Montana in 2012 when he came up with “the largest triceratops horn ever unearthed at the site.

Later, while examining the specimen under a high-powered microscope at CSUN, he was fascinated to see the soft tissue that remained.

“The discovery stunned members of the scientific community because it indicates that dinosaurs roamed the earth only thousands of years in the past rather than going extinct 60 million years ago,” the legal team explained.

Armitage, a published scientist of over 30 years, then was dismissed when CSUN abruptly claimed his appointment at the university of 38 months had been temporary, and there was no funding for his position.

Ever wonder about evolution, and all those millions of years? Find out the truth at WND’s Superstore, where books and videos include “Evolution: A Fairy Tale for Grownups,” “Evolution: The Grand Experiment,” “Intelligent Design vs. Evolution” and “The Greatest Hoax on Earth,” and many more.

The lawyers said that contradicted prior statements and documents from the university.

According to Armitage’s biography, he had been serving as the manager for the Electron and Confocal Microscopy Suite in the school’s biology department.

That’s where he was working when his discovery of the soft tissue was published in Acta Histochemica.

He previously found two new species of trematodes and reported the discovery of new hosts for several trematodes. He also discovered short half-life radiohalos in clear diamonds.

He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the board of directors since 2006. He’s also in the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.

His graduate degrees are from Liberty University. His articles have been published in American Laboratory, Southern California Academy of Sciences Bulletin, Parasitology Research, Microscopy and Microanalysis and Microscopy Today.

Michael Peffer, staff attorney with PJI’s southern California office, said, “It has become apparent that ‘diversity’ and ‘intellectual curiosity,’ so often touted as hallmarks of a university education, do not apply to those with a religious point of view. This suit was filed, in part, to vindicate those ideals.”

According to a CBS report in Los Angeles, CSUN spokeswoman Carmen Ramos Chandler said Armitage was a a temporary hire between 2010-2013.

According to the complaint, Armitage told university officials when he applied for the “permanent, part-time” position that he had published work regarding creationism, but he got the job anyway.

School officials previously had described him as “tops … He has patience, great expertise and practices great care.”

His work gradually took on more and more responsibility, and was expanded beyond his half-time original schedule, the complaint explains.

But his discovery of the soft tissue, which according to most scientific perspectives should have decayed into nothingness millions of years ago, send a shock wave through the department where he worked.

While Armitage was told it wasn’t an issue, only a few months later a “secret” meeting was held by faculty members where they allegedly decided to get rid of him, the complaint notes.

The action alleges discrimination based on religion, wrongful termination, retaliation, violations of academic freedom and free speech, and he subsequently was granted a “right to sue” from the Department of Fair Employment and Housing.

CBS reported that later other researchers noted that soft tissue also was found on the bones of a Tyrannosaurus rex, but they explained that by saying iron in the dinosaur’s body preserved the tissue.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/scientist-fired-for-making-dinosaur-discovery/#ULLygmuQMxTtsVVs.99



RR...your degree of ignorance is so high I doubt it could be measured.....


:roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Larrry

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
redrobin said:
only in a fairy tale



from world net daily

A team of attorneys is jumping to the defense of a scientist who made the stunning discovery of soft tissue still attached to a triceratops skeleton, undermining the belief that dinosaurs roamed earth 60 million years ago, and was then fired.

Officials at the Pacific Justice Institute said their case on behalf of Mark Armitage includes an allegation that an official of the university where Mark Armitage worked shouted at him, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department!”

The legal action against California State University Northridge was filed recently in Los Angeles County Superior Court against the board of trustees and alleges discrimination.

“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” said Brad Dacus, PJI president.

“But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wakeup call and warning to the entire world of academia,” he said.

Armitage’s lawyers said he was at a dig in the Hell Creek formation in Montana in 2012 when he came up with “the largest triceratops horn ever unearthed at the site.

Later, while examining the specimen under a high-powered microscope at CSUN, he was fascinated to see the soft tissue that remained.

“The discovery stunned members of the scientific community because it indicates that dinosaurs roamed the earth only thousands of years in the past rather than going extinct 60 million years ago,” the legal team explained.

Armitage, a published scientist of over 30 years, then was dismissed when CSUN abruptly claimed his appointment at the university of 38 months had been temporary, and there was no funding for his position.

Ever wonder about evolution, and all those millions of years? Find out the truth at WND’s Superstore, where books and videos include “Evolution: A Fairy Tale for Grownups,” “Evolution: The Grand Experiment,” “Intelligent Design vs. Evolution” and “The Greatest Hoax on Earth,” and many more.

The lawyers said that contradicted prior statements and documents from the university.

According to Armitage’s biography, he had been serving as the manager for the Electron and Confocal Microscopy Suite in the school’s biology department.

That’s where he was working when his discovery of the soft tissue was published in Acta Histochemica.

He previously found two new species of trematodes and reported the discovery of new hosts for several trematodes. He also discovered short half-life radiohalos in clear diamonds.

He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the board of directors since 2006. He’s also in the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.

His graduate degrees are from Liberty University. His articles have been published in American Laboratory, Southern California Academy of Sciences Bulletin, Parasitology Research, Microscopy and Microanalysis and Microscopy Today.

Michael Peffer, staff attorney with PJI’s southern California office, said, “It has become apparent that ‘diversity’ and ‘intellectual curiosity,’ so often touted as hallmarks of a university education, do not apply to those with a religious point of view. This suit was filed, in part, to vindicate those ideals.”

According to a CBS report in Los Angeles, CSUN spokeswoman Carmen Ramos Chandler said Armitage was a a temporary hire between 2010-2013.

According to the complaint, Armitage told university officials when he applied for the “permanent, part-time” position that he had published work regarding creationism, but he got the job anyway.

School officials previously had described him as “tops … He has patience, great expertise and practices great care.”

His work gradually took on more and more responsibility, and was expanded beyond his half-time original schedule, the complaint explains.

But his discovery of the soft tissue, which according to most scientific perspectives should have decayed into nothingness millions of years ago, send a shock wave through the department where he worked.

While Armitage was told it wasn’t an issue, only a few months later a “secret” meeting was held by faculty members where they allegedly decided to get rid of him, the complaint notes.

The action alleges discrimination based on religion, wrongful termination, retaliation, violations of academic freedom and free speech, and he subsequently was granted a “right to sue” from the Department of Fair Employment and Housing.

CBS reported that later other researchers noted that soft tissue also was found on the bones of a Tyrannosaurus rex, but they explained that by saying iron in the dinosaur’s body preserved the tissue.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/scientist-fired-for-making-dinosaur-discovery/#ULLygmuQMxTtsVVs.99



RR...you degree of ignorance is so high I doubt it could be measured.....


:roll: :roll: :roll:

What a nice compliment, especially when it comes from a leftwingernut obama brown noser
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
Larrry said:
kolanuraven said:
redrobin said:
only in a fairy tale



from world net daily

A team of attorneys is jumping to the defense of a scientist who made the stunning discovery of soft tissue still attached to a triceratops skeleton, undermining the belief that dinosaurs roamed earth 60 million years ago, and was then fired.

Officials at the Pacific Justice Institute said their case on behalf of Mark Armitage includes an allegation that an official of the university where Mark Armitage worked shouted at him, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department!”

The legal action against California State University Northridge was filed recently in Los Angeles County Superior Court against the board of trustees and alleges discrimination.

“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” said Brad Dacus, PJI president.

“But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wakeup call and warning to the entire world of academia,” he said.

Armitage’s lawyers said he was at a dig in the Hell Creek formation in Montana in 2012 when he came up with “the largest triceratops horn ever unearthed at the site.

Later, while examining the specimen under a high-powered microscope at CSUN, he was fascinated to see the soft tissue that remained.

“The discovery stunned members of the scientific community because it indicates that dinosaurs roamed the earth only thousands of years in the past rather than going extinct 60 million years ago,” the legal team explained.

Armitage, a published scientist of over 30 years, then was dismissed when CSUN abruptly claimed his appointment at the university of 38 months had been temporary, and there was no funding for his position.

Ever wonder about evolution, and all those millions of years? Find out the truth at WND’s Superstore, where books and videos include “Evolution: A Fairy Tale for Grownups,” “Evolution: The Grand Experiment,” “Intelligent Design vs. Evolution” and “The Greatest Hoax on Earth,” and many more.

The lawyers said that contradicted prior statements and documents from the university.

According to Armitage’s biography, he had been serving as the manager for the Electron and Confocal Microscopy Suite in the school’s biology department.

That’s where he was working when his discovery of the soft tissue was published in Acta Histochemica.

He previously found two new species of trematodes and reported the discovery of new hosts for several trematodes. He also discovered short half-life radiohalos in clear diamonds.

He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the board of directors since 2006. He’s also in the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.

His graduate degrees are from Liberty University. His articles have been published in American Laboratory, Southern California Academy of Sciences Bulletin, Parasitology Research, Microscopy and Microanalysis and Microscopy Today.

Michael Peffer, staff attorney with PJI’s southern California office, said, “It has become apparent that ‘diversity’ and ‘intellectual curiosity,’ so often touted as hallmarks of a university education, do not apply to those with a religious point of view. This suit was filed, in part, to vindicate those ideals.”

According to a CBS report in Los Angeles, CSUN spokeswoman Carmen Ramos Chandler said Armitage was a a temporary hire between 2010-2013.

According to the complaint, Armitage told university officials when he applied for the “permanent, part-time” position that he had published work regarding creationism, but he got the job anyway.

School officials previously had described him as “tops … He has patience, great expertise and practices great care.”

His work gradually took on more and more responsibility, and was expanded beyond his half-time original schedule, the complaint explains.

But his discovery of the soft tissue, which according to most scientific perspectives should have decayed into nothingness millions of years ago, send a shock wave through the department where he worked.

While Armitage was told it wasn’t an issue, only a few months later a “secret” meeting was held by faculty members where they allegedly decided to get rid of him, the complaint notes.

The action alleges discrimination based on religion, wrongful termination, retaliation, violations of academic freedom and free speech, and he subsequently was granted a “right to sue” from the Department of Fair Employment and Housing.

CBS reported that later other researchers noted that soft tissue also was found on the bones of a Tyrannosaurus rex, but they explained that by saying iron in the dinosaur’s body preserved the tissue.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/scientist-fired-for-making-dinosaur-discovery/#ULLygmuQMxTtsVVs.99



RR...you degree of ignorance is so high I doubt it could be measured.....


:roll: :roll: :roll:

What a nice compliment, especially when it comes from a leftwingernut obama brown noser



How does science involve politics?
 

redrobin

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
redrobin said:
only in a fairy tale



from world net daily

A team of attorneys is jumping to the defense of a scientist who made the stunning discovery of soft tissue still attached to a triceratops skeleton, undermining the belief that dinosaurs roamed earth 60 million years ago, and was then fired.

Officials at the Pacific Justice Institute said their case on behalf of Mark Armitage includes an allegation that an official of the university where Mark Armitage worked shouted at him, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department!”

The legal action against California State University Northridge was filed recently in Los Angeles County Superior Court against the board of trustees and alleges discrimination.

“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” said Brad Dacus, PJI president.

“But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wakeup call and warning to the entire world of academia,” he said.

Armitage’s lawyers said he was at a dig in the Hell Creek formation in Montana in 2012 when he came up with “the largest triceratops horn ever unearthed at the site.

Later, while examining the specimen under a high-powered microscope at CSUN, he was fascinated to see the soft tissue that remained.

“The discovery stunned members of the scientific community because it indicates that dinosaurs roamed the earth only thousands of years in the past rather than going extinct 60 million years ago,” the legal team explained.

Armitage, a published scientist of over 30 years, then was dismissed when CSUN abruptly claimed his appointment at the university of 38 months had been temporary, and there was no funding for his position.

Ever wonder about evolution, and all those millions of years? Find out the truth at WND’s Superstore, where books and videos include “Evolution: A Fairy Tale for Grownups,” “Evolution: The Grand Experiment,” “Intelligent Design vs. Evolution” and “The Greatest Hoax on Earth,” and many more.

The lawyers said that contradicted prior statements and documents from the university.

According to Armitage’s biography, he had been serving as the manager for the Electron and Confocal Microscopy Suite in the school’s biology department.

That’s where he was working when his discovery of the soft tissue was published in Acta Histochemica.

He previously found two new species of trematodes and reported the discovery of new hosts for several trematodes. He also discovered short half-life radiohalos in clear diamonds.

He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the board of directors since 2006. He’s also in the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.

His graduate degrees are from Liberty University. His articles have been published in American Laboratory, Southern California Academy of Sciences Bulletin, Parasitology Research, Microscopy and Microanalysis and Microscopy Today.

Michael Peffer, staff attorney with PJI’s southern California office, said, “It has become apparent that ‘diversity’ and ‘intellectual curiosity,’ so often touted as hallmarks of a university education, do not apply to those with a religious point of view. This suit was filed, in part, to vindicate those ideals.”

According to a CBS report in Los Angeles, CSUN spokeswoman Carmen Ramos Chandler said Armitage was a a temporary hire between 2010-2013.

According to the complaint, Armitage told university officials when he applied for the “permanent, part-time” position that he had published work regarding creationism, but he got the job anyway.

School officials previously had described him as “tops … He has patience, great expertise and practices great care.”

His work gradually took on more and more responsibility, and was expanded beyond his half-time original schedule, the complaint explains.

But his discovery of the soft tissue, which according to most scientific perspectives should have decayed into nothingness millions of years ago, send a shock wave through the department where he worked.

While Armitage was told it wasn’t an issue, only a few months later a “secret” meeting was held by faculty members where they allegedly decided to get rid of him, the complaint notes.

The action alleges discrimination based on religion, wrongful termination, retaliation, violations of academic freedom and free speech, and he subsequently was granted a “right to sue” from the Department of Fair Employment and Housing.

CBS reported that later other researchers noted that soft tissue also was found on the bones of a Tyrannosaurus rex, but they explained that by saying iron in the dinosaur’s body preserved the tissue.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/scientist-fired-for-making-dinosaur-discovery/#ULLygmuQMxTtsVVs.99



RR...your degree of ignorance is so high I doubt it could be measured.....


:roll: :roll: :roll:
:lol: Go ahead and explain how im ignorant.
 

iwannabeacowboy

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
Larrry said:
kolanuraven said:
RR...you degree of ignorance is so high I doubt it could be measured.....


:roll: :roll: :roll:

What a nice compliment, especially when it comes from a leftwingernut obama brown noser



How does science involve politics?


:lol: :lol: :lol: Ever heard of the EPA, government grants, or been inside a University?

From your ignorant statement, I can't wait for you to come back and tell us how you are so scientifically informed. I'll wait for that.... It will make what follows that much better. :lol:
 

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