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alice

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Big Muddy rancher said:
alice said:
Tam said:
Please don't judge all Canadians by the likes of nonothing as he is the exception not the norm by any means. :wink:

I am pleased to judge Canadians by the likes of Mrs. Greg... :D

Alice


We don't all like ice wine :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't know what ice wine is...unless you mean wine over ice...now, that's nice.

Alice
 

Tam

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alice said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
alice said:
I am pleased to judge Canadians by the likes of Mrs. Greg... :D

Alice


We don't all like ice wine :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I don't know what ice wine is...unless you mean wine over ice...now, that's nice.

Alice

Ice wine is a dessert wine that is made from grapes that have been frozen on the vine which make for a very very sweet wine. It is kind of like drinking syrup.
 

nonothing

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hopalong said:
And you still have failed to offer up the proof of what you claim!!!!

I have always had a lot of respect of the Canadians, have stood side by side on missions and felt proud to have done so, but you Mr nonothing
crap on that respect!
Hope you feel proud of the fact you have single handedly done what no one else has managed to do,MAKE me feel I need to look over my shoulder if near a Canadian. :mad:

NOW i have asked for you to supply the proof that you accused me of, being memanpa, this is not the first time you have made that accusation, (WHICH WOULD BE AN HONOR) but you desecrate a memory of a fallen hero of VIET NAM. :mad: :mad:
What makes it worse is I knew the man!!
You asked for and received the obituary of his death, and then continued to attack his memory! :mad:

You Sir are DISPICABLE
 

nonothing

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alice said:
Tam said:
hopalong said:
And you still have failed to offer up the proof of what you claim!!!!

I have always had a lot of respect of the Canadians, have stood side by side on missions and felt proud to have done so, but you Mr nonothing
crap on that respect!
Hope you feel proud of the fact you have single handedly done what no one else has managed to do,MAKE me feel I need to look over my shoulder if near a Canadian. :mad:

NOW i have asked for you to supply the proof that you accused me of, being memanpa, this is not the first time you have made that accusation, (WHICH WOULD BE AN HONOR) but you desecrate a memory of a fallen hero of VIET NAM. :mad: :mad:
What makes it worse is I knew the man!!
You asked for and received the obituary of his death, and then continued to attack his memory! :mad:

You Sir are DISPICABLE

Please don't judge all Canadians by the likes of nonothing as he is the exception not the norm by any means. :wink:

I am pleased to judge Canadians by the likes of Mrs. Greg... :D

Alice

There are many good Canadians on here Alice..I think your pick of Mrs Greg would be hard to beat...But her hubby seems like a real stand up guy too........I am easy to dislike Alice,I am more smash mouth then tactful.....and Tam is right, do not base your opinions of Canadians by my actions here....?Somedays i do not like who I am here either.....This place has a way of disgusting me and turning me into someone I am not always proud to be....
 

nonothing

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1. I'm not a Liberal Any one that thinks I am has not been paying attention.

2. I was born an American anyone that doesn't know this again hasn't been paying attention.
So you chose to be a Canadian,that means like you said to me.its not your business

3. I still have family in the US, if you don't know this you really don't know as much about me as you think you do
I to have lots family in the USA,Also my Grand father was born in minnesota..

4. I have a daughter that just married a US citizen, You may not know this one but it is true I'm sure Oldtimer with his contacts can verify this for you!!
So according to you she can complain but you can not as you are Canadian...


5. That daughter is moving to the US, again you may not have known this but she is.
I wish her well.but you are still a Canadian...


6. Obama will be spending my daughter and her husbands hard earned money ie they will be paying taxes in the US.
yes They are Americain so their taxes would go to America,but you are Canadian


7. He could very well be spending my grandchild's money, as it will take more than one generation to pay off the debt he has racked up in the last 6 months.
I think there is more people to blame then just the liberals for that but again you are Canadian and as you said it is not your business


You see Nonothing I have skin in the game I doubt you do and I never said you could not speak up until you started telling Americans that have a right to question Obama's qualifications to shut up and stop asking questions about THEIR PRESIDENT. I said if you don't care to know the answers to their question then shut up and stay out of the discussion. You are the one that is stepping on their rights to know who their president is, so if you don't like being told to shut up then don't be telling others to shut up.

I never told anyone not to Question anything...I asked for answers that no one could give...You were the loud mouth trashing America's leader I was simply asking to see proof of the allegations against him....Not one was brought fourth..I also asked why his competition never brought up these alligations to the American public during election time....Again no real answers were given....So we both have family in the game but thank you for doubting mine...

BTW why is it that a person is tagged anti american or anti Canadian if they disagree with a democrat or liberal leader's actions but not when they disagree with a Republican or Conservative leader's actions? Why is a white person tagged a racist if they disagree with Obama's policies but not if they are a black and disagreed with Bush's Policies? There always seems to be two sets of rules one for the liberals/Democrats and one for the rest of the world.

Well I was called anti american alot in here when I question GW Bush.In fact Aplus probably Took me to task on that very subject 100 times..He used to say I had no right to trash his president,as I was Canadian,seems his tune has changed and you have open season...I never once called you a racists,nor have I called MsSage,leaning H or FH (to name just a few)racists,even though they all seem to dislike Obama,they do not use racial slurs or attacks.....Fact is others here simply are racists and if you do not see that then you are not honest enough to even bother talking too......

Tam try being a so called liberal on this site and see what kind of rules there really are here..I think you would be amazed,at the abuse,you only see what you want to see ....Ask another Canadian Lady who posts here, she may enlighten you on what it is like to have different opinion than thebotherhood here...and how that different opinion becomes fuel for attacks against you by the conservative pack here..just because a person stands up for whats right should not label them a liberal.....but it does and for some good people who post at this site, that is not fair to them....


PS.You are a Canadain,so when your ripping me for being a Canadian, remember you are one too...
 

Tam

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nonothing said:
1. I'm not a Liberal Any one that thinks I am has not been paying attention.

2. I was born an American anyone that doesn't know this again hasn't been paying attention.
So you chose to be a Canadian,that means like you said to me.its not your business

3. I still have family in the US, if you don't know this you really don't know as much about me as you think you do
I to have lots family in the USA,Also my Grand father was born in minnesota..

4. I have a daughter that just married a US citizen, You may not know this one but it is true I'm sure Oldtimer with his contacts can verify this for you!!
So according to you she can complain but you can not as you are Canadian...


5. That daughter is moving to the US, again you may not have known this but she is.
I wish her well.but you are still a Canadian...


6. Obama will be spending my daughter and her husbands hard earned money ie they will be paying taxes in the US.
yes They are Americain so their taxes would go to America,but you are Canadian


7. He could very well be spending my grandchild's money, as it will take more than one generation to pay off the debt he has racked up in the last 6 months.
I think there is more people to blame then just the liberals for that but again you are Canadian and as you said it is not your business


You see Nonothing I have skin in the game I doubt you do and I never said you could not speak up until you started telling Americans that have a right to question Obama's qualifications to shut up and stop asking questions about THEIR PRESIDENT. I said if you don't care to know the answers to their question then shut up and stay out of the discussion. You are the one that is stepping on their rights to know who their president is, so if you don't like being told to shut up then don't be telling others to shut up.

I never told anyone not to Question anything...I asked for answers that no one could give...You were the loud mouth trashing America's leader I was simply asking to see proof of the allegations against him....Not one was brought fourth..I also asked why his competition never brought up these alligations to the American public during election time....Again no real answers were given....So we both have family in the game but thank you for doubting mine...

BTW why is it that a person is tagged anti american or anti Canadian if they disagree with a democrat or liberal leader's actions but not when they disagree with a Republican or Conservative leader's actions? Why is a white person tagged a racist if they disagree with Obama's policies but not if they are a black and disagreed with Bush's Policies? There always seems to be two sets of rules one for the liberals/Democrats and one for the rest of the world.

Well I was called anti american alot in here when I question GW Bush.In fact Aplus probably Took me to task on that very subject 100 times..He used to say I had no right to trash his president,as I was Canadian,seems his tune has changed and you have open season...I never once called you a racists,nor have I called MsSage,leaning H or FH (to name just a few)racists,even though they all seem to dislike Obama,they do not use racial slurs or attacks.....Fact is others here simply are racists and if you do not see that then you are not honest enough to even bother talking too......

Tam try being a so called liberal on this site and see what kind of rules there really are here..I think you would be amazed,at the abuse,you only see what you want to see ....Ask another Canadian Lady who posts here, she may enlighten you on what it is like to have different opinion than thebotherhood here...and how that different opinion becomes fuel for attacks against you by the conservative pack here..just because a person stands up for whats right should not label them a liberal.....but it does and for some good people who post at this site, that is not fair to them....


PS.You are a Canadain,so when your ripping me for being a Canadian, remember you are one too...


I was born an American and that is a citizenship that you don't loose just ask any border agent. I told them I was Canadian once and got a 15 minute lecture to why I was not in the eyes of the US government. So If they want me to be an American then I have a right to b*tch all I want. :wink:

And any time you make a sweeping statement about those asking to see Obama's birth Certificates are redneck racist you are tagging anyone that is still asking with that same nasty slur. Since I'm one that would still like proof you then are calling me a racist. I doubt give a damn about his color his fathers color or his mothers color, ONLY THEIR CITIZENSHIP and his QUALIFICATIONS GET IT.

You never told anyone not to question Bull you told them to SHUT UP if that is not telling them to stop questioning then what is. :roll:

And you could be given the court documents and written statements from the candidates themselves and you wouldn't compehend what was in them And that is proven by the fact you think lawyers work for free on cases of this importance. Lawyers like money and they make a ton off of people just like Obama which are people that have something to HIDE. :roll:

Now you have been asked countless times why he has refused to show his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE and his college records but have yet to give an explanation care to try oh all Knowing one.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Here's what Obama has paid the law firm representing him in eligibility lawsuits, up to March.

$1 Million since the election.

Nonothing, do you still need further proof that lawyers don't come cheap.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009.

The campaign also compensated Perkins Coie for legal services between Oct. 16, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2008 – to the tune of $378,375.52

Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.
 

nonothing

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Tam said:
nonothing said:
1. I'm not a Liberal Any one that thinks I am has not been paying attention.

2. I was born an American anyone that doesn't know this again hasn't been paying attention.
So you chose to be a Canadian,that means like you said to me.its not your business

3. I still have family in the US, if you don't know this you really don't know as much about me as you think you do
I to have lots family in the USA,Also my Grand father was born in minnesota..

4. I have a daughter that just married a US citizen, You may not know this one but it is true I'm sure Oldtimer with his contacts can verify this for you!!
So according to you she can complain but you can not as you are Canadian...


5. That daughter is moving to the US, again you may not have known this but she is.
I wish her well.but you are still a Canadian...


6. Obama will be spending my daughter and her husbands hard earned money ie they will be paying taxes in the US.
yes They are Americain so their taxes would go to America,but you are Canadian


7. He could very well be spending my grandchild's money, as it will take more than one generation to pay off the debt he has racked up in the last 6 months.
I think there is more people to blame then just the liberals for that but again you are Canadian and as you said it is not your business


You see Nonothing I have skin in the game I doubt you do and I never said you could not speak up until you started telling Americans that have a right to question Obama's qualifications to shut up and stop asking questions about THEIR PRESIDENT. I said if you don't care to know the answers to their question then shut up and stay out of the discussion. You are the one that is stepping on their rights to know who their president is, so if you don't like being told to shut up then don't be telling others to shut up.

I never told anyone not to Question anything...I asked for answers that no one could give...You were the loud mouth trashing America's leader I was simply asking to see proof of the allegations against him....Not one was brought fourth..I also asked why his competition never brought up these alligations to the American public during election time....Again no real answers were given....So we both have family in the game but thank you for doubting mine...

BTW why is it that a person is tagged anti american or anti Canadian if they disagree with a democrat or liberal leader's actions but not when they disagree with a Republican or Conservative leader's actions? Why is a white person tagged a racist if they disagree with Obama's policies but not if they are a black and disagreed with Bush's Policies? There always seems to be two sets of rules one for the liberals/Democrats and one for the rest of the world.

Well I was called anti american alot in here when I question GW Bush.In fact Aplus probably Took me to task on that very subject 100 times..He used to say I had no right to trash his president,as I was Canadian,seems his tune has changed and you have open season...I never once called you a racists,nor have I called MsSage,leaning H or FH (to name just a few)racists,even though they all seem to dislike Obama,they do not use racial slurs or attacks.....Fact is others here simply are racists and if you do not see that then you are not honest enough to even bother talking too......

Tam try being a so called liberal on this site and see what kind of rules there really are here..I think you would be amazed,at the abuse,you only see what you want to see ....Ask another Canadian Lady who posts here, she may enlighten you on what it is like to have different opinion than thebotherhood here...and how that different opinion becomes fuel for attacks against you by the conservative pack here..just because a person stands up for whats right should not label them a liberal.....but it does and for some good people who post at this site, that is not fair to them....


PS.You are a Canadain,so when your ripping me for being a Canadian, remember you are one too...


I was born an American and that is a citizenship that you don't loose just ask any border agent. I told them I was Canadian once and got a 15 minute lecture to why I was not in the eyes of the US government. So If they want me to be an American then I have a right to b*tch all I want. :wink:

And any time you make a sweeping statement about those asking to see Obama's birth Certificates are redneck racist you are tagging anyone that is still asking with that same nasty slur. Since I'm one that would still like proof you then are calling me a racist. I doubt give a damn about his color his fathers color or his mothers color, ONLY THEIR CITIZENSHIP and his QUALIFICATIONS GET IT.

You never told anyone not to question Bull you told them to SHUT UP if that is not telling them to stop questioning then what is. :roll:

And you could be given the court documents and written statements from the candidates themselves and you wouldn't compehend what was in them And that is proven by the fact you think lawyers work for free on cases of this importance. Lawyers like money and they make a ton off of people just like Obama which are people that have something to HIDE. :roll:

Now you have been asked countless times why he has refused to show his LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE and his college records but have yet to give an explanation care to try oh all Knowing one.


So you are saying you have daul citizenship or just because a border agent said you could,could bitch you do?.I would think the last person anyone would want in their business is someone who chose to leave.Also if your bitching about Amercia,then shut your yap about Canada..You only have the right to vote in one country the other one you have no right to bitch about....that is according to your own statements....So which is it Tam Canada or America,where do you cast your vote?


Yes I told them to show proof of their claims or stup up....In fact,I said, put up or shut up.....Again,not you or anyone showed proof of your claims.....You have no Idea who is paying the legal bills or if they are being paid at all...You people just throw out stuff with out any evidence at all.....

He has showen it,He also has not been challenged by the leader of the oppisition to again show it and has obviously passed the vetting criteria....It is time to show me the reason why you claim he has not showen it?....and obviously even the law has sided with it as well.What kind of precident will it send if every non racist nice guy who just wants the truth as they see it, goes after the American President in court.?

PS I thought you said you were done responding to me.......lol
 

nonothing

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Here's what Obama has paid the law firm representing him in eligibility lawsuits, up to March.

$1 Million since the election.

Nonothing, do you still need further proof that lawyers don't come cheap.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009.

The campaign also compensated Perkins Coie for legal services between Oct. 16, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2008 – to the tune of $378,375.52

Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.


Thank you for providing numbers on the cost to the campaign....now just show me the proof that he never showed it and I will be on board with you people as well....I know they are not cheap,I just do not believe it is Obama who is paying them out of his pocket like Sandhusker claims he is....Also it seems this law firm does more the just the eligibilty lawsuit,so please breakdown what services he has charged for....Maybe some of that money if not the majority has been spent on other issuses....Or does sandhusker know where its all been spent?....
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
You need it itemized to realize that he is paying more than the $15 it would cost to provide the long form BC?

Here's a letter from the firm to prove that they are representing obama.

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Sandhusker

Well-known member
nonothing said:
hypocritexposer said:
Here's what Obama has paid the law firm representing him in eligibility lawsuits, up to March.

$1 Million since the election.

Nonothing, do you still need further proof that lawyers don't come cheap.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009.

The campaign also compensated Perkins Coie for legal services between Oct. 16, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2008 – to the tune of $378,375.52

Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.


Thank you for providing numbers on the cost to the campaign....now just show me the proof that he never showed it and I will be on board with you people as well....I know they are not cheap,I just do not believe it is Obama who is paying them out of his pocket like Sandhusker claims he is....Also it seems this law firm does more the just the eligibilty lawsuit,so please breakdown what services he has charged for....Maybe some of that money if not the majority has been spent on other issuses....Or does sandhusker know where its all been spent?....

Do we also need to provide proof that he doesn’t wear a space helmet to the toilet? Maybe we need to show you proof that he has never attempted to push butter up a cat’s butt? How does one provide negative proof?

I don't understand why you demand proof that he hasn't shown the cert., you’re the one who claims he has shown it. Unless you were just flapping your lips, you should be able to provide the information as to when and whom it was provided to.
 

don

Well-known member
isn't it usually up to the accuser to prove their accusation? don't expect someone to incriminate themselves, right? so all you patriots wanting to prove obama isn't eligible go out and find your evidence to show where he was born. there must be witnesses and records somewhere that would at least provide some evidence. it's easy to sit there and demand, demand, demand but why should he disprove your allegations? it's up to you to prove them.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
don said:
isn't it usually up to the accuser to prove their accusation? don't expect someone to incriminate themselves, right? so all you patriots wanting to prove obama isn't eligible go out and find your evidence to show where he was born. there must be witnesses and records somewhere that would at least provide some evidence. it's easy to sit there and demand, demand, demand but why should he disprove your allegations? it's up to you to prove them.

There is a document that proves it, don, it's called A BIRTH CERTIFICATE! It is just one of many documents that Obama won't allow to see the light of day.

He should prove that he's a citizen because IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE CONSTITUTION!

Why is this so difficult?
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Don, I have shown many times that he is not a Natural born citizen.

SCOTUS precedent
Congress statement

Those that deny it, will not even look at the evidence there is. If they did, then they would know the truth and they don't want to know the truth.

the first step to prove Natural Born Citizen, would be to show the long form certification, which will show his father's citizenship.

“every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

In Minor v. Happersett (1874), the Supreme Court said that, if you were born in the United States and both of your parents were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth, you are, without doubt, a natural born citizen. In the same case, the Supreme Court also said that, if you were born in the United States and one of your parents was not a U.S. citizen when you were born, your natural born citizenship is in doubt. So far, the Supreme Court has not resolved this doubt because, until now, there has never been any need to do so.
 

Tam

Well-known member
nonothing said:
hypocritexposer said:
Here's what Obama has paid the law firm representing him in eligibility lawsuits, up to March.

$1 Million since the election.

Nonothing, do you still need further proof that lawyers don't come cheap.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Obama For America paid $688,316.42 to international law firm Perkins Coie between January and March 2009.

The campaign also compensated Perkins Coie for legal services between Oct. 16, 2008 and Dec. 31, 2008 – to the tune of $378,375.52

Robert Bauer of Perkins Coie – top lawyer for Obama, Obama's presidential campaign, the Democratic National Committee and Obama's Organizing for America – is the same Washington, D.C., lawyer defending President Obama in lawsuits challenging his eligibility to be president.


Thank you for providing numbers on the cost to the campaign....now just show me the proof that he never showed it and I will be on board with you people as well....I know they are not cheap,I just do not believe it is Obama who is paying them out of his pocket like Sandhusker claims he is....Also it seems this law firm does more the just the eligibilty lawsuit,so please breakdown what services he has charged for....Maybe some of that money if not the majority has been spent on other issuses....Or does sandhusker know where its all been spent?....

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99342

WND AT THE WHITE HOUSE
Obama flack laughs off birth certificate question
'It's on the Internet, Lester,' claims Gibbs at White House briefing

Posted: May 27, 2009
6:35 pm Eastern

© 2009 WorldNetDaily


Presidential spokesman Robert Gibbs bends over laughing at a question over Obama's eligibility

WASHINGTON – Somebody finally asked Barack Obama's White House press secretary about the president's elusive birth certificate.

When asked by WND White House correspondent Les Kinsolving why the president, who has pledged transparency in his administration, would not release his long-form birth certificate to establish his constitutional eligibility for office, spokesman Robert Gibbs guffawed in unison with members of the Washington press corps about the concerns of 400,000 petitioners who have demanded it.

"Are you looking for the president's birth certificate?" he asked incredulously. "Lester, this question in many ways continues to astound me. The state of Hawaii provided a copy with the seal of the president's birth. I know there are apparently at least 400,000 people – (laughter) – that continue to doubt the existence of and the certification by the state of Hawaii of the president's birth there, but it's on the Internet because we put it on the Internet for each of those 400,000 to download. I certainly hope by the fourth year of our administration that we'll have dealt with this burgeoning birth controversy."

snip
It was the first time any member of the press corps has publicly asked a member of the administration a question directly related to Obama's constitutional eligibility for office as a "natural born citizen."

The question comes as the controversy is heating up nationally – sparked in part by a new billboard campaign asking the question: "Where's the birth certificate?" snip.....


The "Certification of Live Birth" posted online and widely touted as "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii. The true "long-form" birth certificate – which includes information like the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.

Oddly, though congressional hearings were held to determine whether Sen. John McCain was constitutionally eligible to be president as a "natural born citizen," no controlling legal authority ever sought to verify Obama's claim to a Hawaiian birth.

Both the petition and the billboard campaign are part of what Farah calls an independent "the truth and transparency campaign."

At today's White House briefing, Gibbs was contentious with Kinsolving before he ever asked his question. Calling on WND's longtime correspondent, he said: "Lester, I'm a glutton for punishment."

Kinsolving said: "Thank you, thank you, very much. Just one question concerning what the president said in his speech on Thursday, and I quote, 'I ran for president promising transparency, and I meant what I said. This is why, whenever possible, we will make information available to the American people so they can make informed judgments and hold us accountable.' End of quote. Do you remember that statement?"

Gibbs: "I can confirm that he said that."

Kinsolving: "Good. In consideration of this very good promise of transparency, why can't the president respond to the petition to requests of 400,000 American citizens by releasing a certified copy of his long-form birth certificate listing hospital – (laughter) – 400,000. …"

Gibbs: "Are you looking for the President's birth certificate?"

Kinsolving: "Yes."

Gibbs: "It's on the Internet, Lester."

Kinsolving: "No, no, no -- the long form listing his hospital and physician." (Laughter.)

Gibbs: "Lester, this question in many ways continues to astound me. The state of Hawaii provided a copy with the seal of the President's birth. I know there are apparently at least 400,000 people – (laughter) – that continue to doubt the existence of and the certification by the state of Hawaii of the president's birth there, but it's on the Internet because we put it on the Internet for each of those 400,000 to download. I certainly hope by the fourth year of our administration that we'll have dealt with this burgeoning birth controversy."

And with that, Gibbs ended the briefing.

Just so you didn't miss it nonothing :wink:
The "Certification of Live Birth" posted online and widely touted as "Obama's birth certificate" does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same "short-form" document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii The true "long-form" birth certificate – which includes information like the name of the birth hospital and attending physician – is the only document that can prove Obama was born in Hawaii, but to date he has not permitted its release for public or press scrutiny.
Note how is says the one provided on the internet doesn't prove where he was born and that the only one that proves that is the long form which he has yet to provide. Now this article was on May 27, 2009 Has Obama provide a copy of his long form in the last month Nonothing? NO. So now we have proof he is paying a lawyer to defend against the lawsuits so he is spending money to defend himself and now this article proves he has yet to provide the birth certificate the proves he was born in the US. So are you going to get on board or are you going to spin duck and dive again? :? :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Comical- that the rightwingernut crazies- after watching years of GW usurp the US rule of Law and the Constitution as he allowed the country to go into the biggest Depression since the 30's- and now all they whine and moan about day and night is Obama's birth certificate- and right to be President- which was certified by the only folks the Constitution comes close to specifing who makes the decisions on presidential qualifications- the voters of the country and the electoral college.. :roll: :wink:

But rather that work toward positive goals the current rightwingernut crazies are living in a fearmongering/hatemongering world of riding dead horses- and would rather see the country fail.... :( :(
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Comical- that the rightwingernut crazies- after watching years of GW usurp the US rule of Law and the Constitution as he allowed the country to go into the biggest Depression since the 30's- and now all they whine and moan about day and night is Obama's birth certificate- and right to be President- which was certified by the only folks the Constitution comes close to specifing who makes the decisions on presidential qualifications- the voters of the country and the electoral college.. :roll: :wink:

But rather that work toward positive goals the current rightwingernut crazies are living in a fearmongering/hatemongering world of riding dead horses- and would rather see the country fail.... :( :(

OMG you of all people talk about living in a hatemongering world :roll: Look in the mirror Oldtimer as you can't seem to help yourself with spreading the hate you have for Bush. Is it possible for you to defend you idiol Obama without the usual Bush bashing. I don't think so :roll: :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Comical- that the rightwingernut crazies- after watching years of GW usurp the US rule of Law and the Constitution as he allowed the country to go into the biggest Depression since the 30's- and now all they whine and moan about day and night is Obama's birth certificate- and right to be President- which was certified by the only folks the Constitution comes close to specifing who makes the decisions on presidential qualifications- the voters of the country and the electoral college.. :roll: :wink:

But rather that work toward positive goals the current rightwingernut crazies are living in a fearmongering/hatemongering world of riding dead horses- and would rather see the country fail.... :( :(

What do you care about usurping US law and the Constitution?
 

Tam

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Sandhusker said:
Anybody wonder why Gibbs is lying?

I heard that you can tell when Gibbs is lying and it's when he laughs before answering the question asked of him. This was a body language expert that said it while watching one of his press conferences. She said it was like a nervous twitch in some who lie. So if Gibbs was bent over laughing you have to wonder just how big the lie was and if while bent over he was kissing his job and *s* goodbye if he messed up the answer. Just a thought :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

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