Boner done as any type of leader!

[Anonymous]

Old Boner is done as any type of leader if this doesn't pass...Too many of his fellow cult members know he agreed to go along with a Senate approved stop gap measure-- and now like a little kid on the school ground is saying "Kings X-we had our fingers crossed".... Boehner speaks with forked tongue-- time for him to go....

Personally I agree Congress should have been able to negotiate a long term plan--BUT they didn't and he- and the majority of Repub Cult Senators agreed to a short term one....
The Senate took him and the House on his word and went home for Christmas break--- and now he (and his cult) renegs on their word- and wants to again penalize the American working class for their inability to make decisions or his to lead..

All you that are criticizing the cost of the President flying to Hawaii-- how much do you think it will/would cost to bring back all the US Senators and their staffs from their Christmas holiday break to try and fix what actually is caused by a cult and their leader speaking in forked tongues (lying)... :???:

The US House is one of the major reasons the Congress's approval rating is at 8%... Whole bunch remind me of a bunch of rich spoiled grade school kids....

Reid rejects reopening tax talks unless House passes Senate payroll bill
By Alexander Bolton - 12/19/11 02:19 PM ET

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Monday rejected House Republicans' demand to renegotiate a bipartisan deal to extend the payroll tax holiday and unemployment benefits.

Reid said he would not convene a bicameral conference meeting to work out differences between Senate and House payroll tax legislation unless House Republicans first approve a two-month extension of the tax break affecting 160 million people.

The House is scheduled to vote on the Senate bill Monday night, and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has predicted it will be rejected. But Reid's decision will make it a tougher vote in the House, as not approving the Senate tax bill would mean a hike in the payroll tax in January.

The Senate passed the stopgap measure Saturday in a bipartisan 89-10 vote.

"Senator McConnell and I negotiated a compromise at Speaker Boehner's request," Reid said in a news release. "I will not re-open negotiations until the House follows through and passes this agreement that was negotiated by Republican leaders, and supported by 90 percent of the Senate."

Senate Democrats said Boehner signaled to them that he would accept the bipartisan deal hashed out between Reid and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) on Friday. They were caught off-guard when Boehner unexpectedly rejected the agreement during a Sunday morning appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press."


Reid said if House Republicans reject the Senate deal, they would be solely responsible for people seeing their taxes rise next month.

The Nevada Democrat said he will resume negotiations once the danger of a January tax hike is averted.

"I have always sought a year-long extension. I have been trying to forge one for weeks, and I am happy to continue negotiating one once we have made sure middle-class families will not wake up to a tax increase on January 1st," he said in his news release. "So before we re-open negotiations on a year-long extension, the House of Representatives must protect middle-class families by passing the overwhelmingly bipartisan compromise that Republicans negotiated, and was approved by ninety percent of the Senate."

Earlier on Monday, Boehner predicted the House would reject the Senate bill, and urged senators to end their vacation and work with the House on a conference agreement to extend the tax cut for a full year.

"This is a vote on whether Congress will stay and do its work or go on vacation," Boehner told reporters at the Capitol. "I expect that the House will disagree with the Senate amendment and instead vote to formally go to conference — the formal process of which the House and Senate can resolve our differences between our two chambers and our two bills."

The House GOP conference is scheduled to meet at 6 p.m., with a vote on the Senate bill after that meeting.

House Republicans argued that in calling for new talks to extend the payroll tax cut for a year, they are joining President Obama, who asked for the year-long extension in September as part of his jobs bill.

But the White House supports the two-month extension, and argued that the House should now approve it to ensure taxes don't go up in January. The White House displayed a new countdown clock in its press room in which a running clock counted down the seconds until the payroll tax cut would expire unless the "House" took action. Previously the clock called for action by "Congress."

Reid also received backing on his position from two Republican senators, Scott Brown of Massachusetts and Dick Lugar of Indiana. Both face tough reelection battles next year.

Lugar said he hoped that a "majority of Republicans and Democrats" would move forward the measure in the House. Lugar said in an interview on MSNBC that moving the two-month extension would be good for the country.

Brown ripped House Republican efforts to "scuttle" the two-month deal, saying this would be "irresponsible and wrong." He also said it would lead to higher taxes on workers and families and reflected a refusal to compromise.

 

[Mike]

You're a fine one to talk of someone else's "lying". :roll:

 

[Tam]

Boehner said he was happy the pipeline was in the deal but he never agreed to the two month extention as he knows unlike the Dems seem to think that people can not make plans two months at a time and they NEED SOME RELIEF FROM THE UNCERTAINLY. Obama and the Dems are willing to sign anything that will not make they make any kind of long term commitment to anything resembling a BUDGET. How about it Oldtimer have the Dems passed a budget yet or are they just going to live on extentions and keep kicking the can down the road?

 

[Steve]

Reid rejects reopening tax talks unless House passes Senate payroll bill
By Alexander Bolton - 12/19/11 02:19 PM ET

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Monday rejected House Republicans' demand to renegotiate a bipartisan deal to extend the payroll tax holiday and unemployment benefits.

Reid said he would not convene a bicameral conference meeting to work out differences between Senate and House payroll tax legislation unless House Republicans first approve a two-month extension of the tax break affecting 160 million people.

The House is scheduled to vote on the Senate bill Monday night, and Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) has predicted it will be rejected. But Reid's decision will make it a tougher vote in the House, as not approving the Senate tax bill would mean a hike in the payroll tax in January.

The Senate passed the stopgap measure Saturday in a bipartisan 89-10 vote.
"Senator McConnell and I negotiated a compromise at Speaker Boehner's request," Reid said in a news release. "I will not re-open negotiations until the House follows through and passes this agreement that was negotiated by Republican leaders, and supported by 90 percent of the Senate."

Senate Democrats said Boehner signaled to them that he would accept the bipartisan deal hashed out between Reid and Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) on Friday. They were caught off-guard when Boehner unexpectedly rejected the agreement during a Sunday morning appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press."


Reid said if House Republicans reject the Senate deal, they would be solely responsible for people seeing their taxes rise next month.

The Nevada Democrat said he will resume negotiations once the danger of a January tax hike is averted.

"I have always sought a year-long extension. I have been trying to forge one for weeks, and I am happy to continue negotiating one once we have made sure middle-class families will not wake up to a tax increase on January 1st," he said in his news release. "So before we re-open negotiations on a year-long extension, the House of Representatives must protect middle-class families by passing the overwhelmingly bipartisan compromise that Republicans negotiated, and was approved by ninety percent of the Senate."

Earlier on Monday, Boehner predicted the House would reject the Senate bill, and urged senators to end their vacation and work with the House on a conference agreement to extend the tax cut for a full year.

"This is a vote on whether Congress will stay and do its work or go on vacation," Boehner told reporters at the Capitol. "I expect that the House will disagree with the Senate amendment and instead vote to formally go to conference — the formal process of which the House and Senate can resolve our differences between our two chambers and our two bills."

The House GOP conference is scheduled to meet at 6 p.m., with a vote on the Senate bill after that meeting.

House Republicans argued that in calling for new talks to extend the payroll tax cut for a year, they are joining President Obama, who asked for the year-long extension in September as part of his jobs bill.

But the White House supports the two-month extension, and argued that the House should now approve it to ensure taxes don't go up in January. The White House displayed a new countdown clock in its press room in which a running clock counted down the seconds until the payroll tax cut would expire unless the "House" took action. Previously the clock called for action by "Congress."

Reid also received backing on his position from two Republican senators, Scott Brown of Massachusetts and Dick Lugar of Indiana. Both face tough reelection battles next year.

Lugar said he hoped that a "majority of Republicans and Democrats" would move forward the measure in the House. Lugar said in an interview on MSNBC that moving the two-month extension would be good for the country.

Brown ripped House Republican efforts to "scuttle" the two-month deal, saying this would be "irresponsible and wrong." He also said it would lead to higher taxes on workers and families and reflected a refusal to compromise.

[/quote]

by the look of the article Boehnor has consistently "said" that the house would reject the senate bill..

and Reid and the senate democrats ignored it and went home anyways after Reid refused to compromise..

I have seen some of the back and forth on this bill... it is a bad bill and irresponsible bill.. like it's predecessor it mortgages SS and piles on the debt..

the responsible and courageous action would be to say NO. we can not afford another vote buying bill with out finding a funding source other then borrowing more..

we need jobs not handouts and gimmicks..

 

[Steve]

When the payroll cut was first made it was done in a manner to try to jump-start the economy and give the working class a break.. now it is just another liberal vote buying scam..

Boehner said he was happy the pipeline was in the deal but he never agreed to the two month extention as he knows unlike the Dems seem to think that people can not make plans two months at a time and they NEED SOME RELIEF FROM THE UNCERTAINLY. Obama and the Dems are willing to sign anything that will not make they make any kind of long term commitment to anything resembling a BUDGET. How about it Oldtimer have the Dems passed a budget yet or are they just going to live on extentions and keep kicking the can down the road?

the democrats have made this a political circus.. and is using it as a handout to buy votes..

it is politics at its' worst.. disgusting...

 

[Steve]

does anyone else see how this payroll tax cut is going to effect themselves and other Americans when it comes time to pay for it?

so far about the only way this shortfall could be paid for is by extending the eligibility age of those retiring..

so instead of 65 or 67, most under 55 will have to work at least another year or two.

and those under 45 may have to work until 70..

if you take the money you get now.. and look at the money you will lose in the future.. ($1200 now) ($12,000 later) what would the interest rate on that loan be?

the senate is putting this one your card today and you will pay it off when you can least afford to later... all so they can buy your vote..

 

[Cowpuncher]

It is real easy to criticize Speaker Boehner, but just imagine what it would look like if Nancy an the democrats had retained control of the House.

Boehner is doing exactly what was expected, but the Senate under Ried and Obama refuse to back away from their soicialist agenda.

CP

 

[hopalong]

oldtimers line of reasoning is exactally where a lot of the problem lies within the senate,,,can't see the forest for the trees, not saying this was a good plan but sure as heck better than anything the democraps could put up!!

as far as oldtimers reasoning about the vacation of his unzipped buddy, there is no comparison...bammas wife spending the kind of money she spent going ahead of bammie himself.

Justify that old windbag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!then you can start blowing your smoke

P.S. oldtimer there are still several questions asked ogyou that you fail to address, which is to be expected because it shows you as being a hypocrite and you ignore them kind of things like your neighbors try to ignore you>
That is except the few you buy drinks for so they will listen to your rants of misinformation and out right lies.

 

[Anonymous]

It is real easy to criticize Speaker Boehner, but just imagine what it would look like if Nancy an the democrats had retained control of the House.

Boehner is doing exactly what was expected, but the Senate under Ried and Obama refuse to back away from their soicialist agenda.

CP

The Senate passed the stopgap measure Saturday in a bipartisan 89-10 vote.
"Senator McConnell and I negotiated a compromise at Speaker Boehner's request," Reid said in a news release.

Reid also received backing on his position from two Republican senators, Scott Brown of Massachusetts and Dick Lugar of Indiana. Both face tough reelection battles next year.

Lugar said he hoped that a "majority of Republicans and Democrats" would move forward the measure in the House. Lugar said in an interview on MSNBC that moving the two-month extension would be good for the country.

Brown ripped House Republican efforts to "scuttle" the two-month deal, saying this would be "irresponsible and wrong." He also said it would lead to higher taxes on workers and families and reflected a refusal to compromise.

Sounds more like a leaderless GOP Party that has run amuck- and could care less about the working Joe Blow of the country...They thru out the raising of taxes on millionaires - and now want to raise the taxes of every working man...

 

[Mike]

It is real easy to criticize Speaker Boehner, but just imagine what it would look like if Nancy an the democrats had retained control of the House.

Boehner is doing exactly what was expected, but the Senate under Ried and Obama refuse to back away from their soicialist agenda.

CP

The Senate passed the stopgap measure Saturday in a bipartisan 89-10 vote.
"Senator McConnell and I negotiated a compromise at Speaker Boehner's request," Reid said in a news release.

Reid also received backing on his position from two Republican senators, Scott Brown of Massachusetts and Dick Lugar of Indiana. Both face tough reelection battles next year.

Lugar said he hoped that a "majority of Republicans and Democrats" would move forward the measure in the House. Lugar said in an interview on MSNBC that moving the two-month extension would be good for the country.

Brown ripped House Republican efforts to "scuttle" the two-month deal, saying this would be "irresponsible and wrong." He also said it would lead to higher taxes on workers and families and reflected a refusal to compromise.

Sounds more like a leaderless GOP Party that has run amuck- and could care less about the working Joe Blow of the country...They thru out the raising of taxes on millionaires - and now want to raise the taxes of every working man...

Blatant lie. :roll:

"Americans are tired of Washington's short-term fixes and gimmicks and fixes," Boehner, R-Ohio, said. "We oppose the Senate bill because doing a two-month extension instead of a full-year extension causes uncertainty for job creators."

He's absolutely correct.

 

[hopalong]

You oldtimer would know about being a spoiled little kid,,,being one yourself!!!

You whine about the GOP not addressing the issue,,,, yet you FAIL to answer a direct question addressed to you by shifting the subject :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:

 

[backhoeboogie]

It is real easy to criticize Speaker Boehner, but just imagine what it would look like if Nancy an the democrats had retained control of the House.

Boehner is doing exactly what was expected, but the Senate under Ried and Obama refuse to back away from their soicialist agenda.

CP

You pretty much hit that nail on the head.

Obama can look the American public in the eye and lie to them. Afterall, most of us are infidels, in their eyes anyway.

"We're looking in to that but...." Can be translated into, "I don't have a clue, but here's my position." All thru the election campaign he got away with that qualifier during the debates. It is embarrassing to know the American public is too stupid to see through things.

 

[Anonymous]

It is real easy to criticize Speaker Boehner, but just imagine what it would look like if Nancy an the democrats had retained control of the House.

Boehner is doing exactly what was expected, but the Senate under Ried and Obama refuse to back away from their soicialist agenda.

CP

The Senate passed the stopgap measure Saturday in a bipartisan 89-10 vote.
"Senator McConnell and I negotiated a compromise at Speaker Boehner's request," Reid said in a news release.

Reid also received backing on his position from two Republican senators, Scott Brown of Massachusetts and Dick Lugar of Indiana. Both face tough reelection battles next year.

Lugar said he hoped that a "majority of Republicans and Democrats" would move forward the measure in the House. Lugar said in an interview on MSNBC that moving the two-month extension would be good for the country.

Brown ripped House Republican efforts to "scuttle" the two-month deal, saying this would be "irresponsible and wrong." He also said it would lead to higher taxes on workers and families and reflected a refusal to compromise.

Sounds more like a leaderless GOP Party that has run amuck- and could care less about the working Joe Blow of the country...They thru out the raising of taxes on millionaires - and now want to raise the taxes of every working man...

Blatant lie. :roll:

"Americans are tired of Washington's short-term fixes and gimmicks and fixes," Boehner, R-Ohio, said. "We oppose the Senate bill because doing a two-month extension instead of a full-year extension causes uncertainty for job creators."

He's absolutely correct.

So how many months has old Boner known they needed to do this-- but did nothing...And when he couldn't get any type of leadership agreement for his folks thru up his hands- headed for the Bars- and said they would leave it to the Senate...

That worked together BIPARTISANLY and voted 90% to keep from raising taxes on the working class- and not raise costs to old folks needing medical care----but Boner has no touch with his split crew-- and after the agreement just got castrated by the folks he's supposed to be leading !!

After the Republican-controlled House passed a measure calling for more negotiations, Boehner made public a letter to Obama that urged him to order the Senate back from its holiday break to take part in further talks.

Leaders in the Democratic-controlled Senate reject that idea, and Obama agreed, telling reporters in a previously unscheduled appearance that the House must approve the two-month extension passed by a strong bipartisan majority in the Senate.

Now how can any ********* supporter spending the Hundreds of Thousands/Millions of dollars in cost to call back all the Senate- and their staffs from their Christmas break (which they left on with Boners word of accepting the bi-partisan Senate agreement) :???:

When the higher taxes start coming out of folks checks in January- and more old folks doctors quit seeing them- I hope they remember this was all handled...
And the argument they now use to say they want to do it on longterm is a joke-- as they've known about this for months- but did nothing until now when they try to promote a "dog and pony show" which will again cost taxpayers big money!!

This shows the TEAPARTY is a bunch of HYPOCRITS when they say they want to cut expenses...
And the reason I agree with McCain that the 2012 election will have a third party (which will probably give Obama a free walk into a second term)..

 

[Mike]

Frankly, nobody here gives a damn why you agree with McCain. :roll:

Or cares about what your position is on just about anything.

You might get an argument had you any credibility. But..........you don't. :wink:

Go sleep it off.

 

[okfarmer]

Sounds more like a leaderless GOP Party that has run amuck- and could care less about the working Joe Blow of the country...They thru out the raising of taxes on millionaires - and now want to raise the taxes of every working man...

Blatant lie. :roll:

"Americans are tired of Washington's short-term fixes and gimmicks and fixes," Boehner, R-Ohio, said. "We oppose the Senate bill because doing a two-month extension instead of a full-year extension causes uncertainty for job creators."

He's absolutely correct.

So how many months has old Boner known they needed to do this-- but did nothing...And when he couldn't get any type of leadership agreement for his folks thru up his hands- headed for the Bars- and said they would leave it to the Senate...

That worked together BIPARTISANLY and voted 90% to keep from raising taxes on the working class- and not raise costs to old folks needing medical care----but Boner has no touch with his split crew-- and after the agreement just got castrated by the folks he's supposed to be leading !!

After the Republican-controlled House passed a measure calling for more negotiations, Boehner made public a letter to Obama that urged him to order the Senate back from its holiday break to take part in further talks.

Leaders in the Democratic-controlled Senate reject that idea, and Obama agreed, telling reporters in a previously unscheduled appearance that the House must approve the two-month extension passed by a strong bipartisan majority in the Senate.

Now how can any ********* supporter spending the Hundreds of Thousands/Millions of dollars in cost to call back all the Senate- and their staffs from their Christmas break (which they left on with Boners word of accepting the bi-partisan Senate agreement) :???:

When the higher taxes start coming out of folks checks in January- and more old folks doctors quit seeing them- I hope they remember this was all handled...
And the argument they now use to say they want to do it on longterm is a joke-- as they've known about this for months- but did nothing until now when they try to promote a "dog and pony show" which will again cost taxpayers big money!!

This shows the TEAPARTY is a bunch of HYPOCRITS when they say they want to cut expenses...
And the reason I agree with McCain that the 2012 election will have a third party (which will probably give Obama a free walk into a second term)..

You have a great pretend problem here. Grown ups with real cognitive abilities can see what it is.

Lets see, spending money on extra flights for vacation (for 3 people that are not even working for the tax payers) is the same to you as having congress fulfill their duties? Why were they gone before their job was complete?

The real question that you should be asking- is why wasn't there a budget passed for how many years? How many years has there needed to be a budget? So how much time did they have?

Same ol same ol playbook. Screw off your duties and then try to rush some b.s. through on the American people.

It amazes me how far down you go to defend something so crooked. The truth is that if these people worked in the real world, the democrats wasting time and money would have been fired a long time ago. But they are amazing at the ways they come up with twisting the truth. Too bad people are paying attention more and more these days.

By the way, I'm okay with reducing the amount of time off for all politicians and decreasing the travel expenses. It would be easy.

 

[ranch hand]

Other Republicans said Boehner bristled in Monday night's meeting when asked whether he had given his blessing to the 60-day Senate compromise, replying that he had not and challenging one questioner to get his facts correct. They spoke on condition of anonymity, noting the events had occurred behind closed doors

Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/news/national/government-and-politics/obama-blames-gop-for-upcoming-tax-increase/article_2e8422bb-8f07-5ee4-827b-19110d4528dc.html#ixzz1h8OmQh1a

 

[Steve]

If the party follows the leadership it is termed 'in lockstep with the cult' ?, but if they don't fall in place behind the Reid / Obama line, it is a party run amuck ? The conservatives can't do anything to please you liberals can they? :lol: :lol:


I would rather they do the right thing then buy votes with gimmicks!

 

[Tam]

Sounds more like a leaderless GOP Party that has run amuck- and could care less about the working Joe Blow of the country...They thru out the raising of taxes on millionaires - and now want to raise the taxes of every working man...

Blatant lie. :roll:

"Americans are tired of Washington's short-term fixes and gimmicks and fixes," Boehner, R-Ohio, said. "We oppose the Senate bill because doing a two-month extension instead of a full-year extension causes uncertainty for job creators."

He's absolutely correct.

So how many months has old Boner known they needed to do this-- but did nothing...And when he couldn't get any type of leadership agreement for his folks thru up his hands- headed for the Bars- and said they would leave it to the Senate...

That worked together BIPARTISANLY and voted 90% to keep from raising taxes on the working class- and not raise costs to old folks needing medical care----but Boner has no touch with his split crew-- and after the agreement just got castrated by the folks he's supposed to be leading !!

After the Republican-controlled House passed a measure calling for more negotiations, Boehner made public a letter to Obama that urged him to order the Senate back from its holiday break to take part in further talks.

Leaders in the Democratic-controlled Senate reject that idea, and Obama agreed, telling reporters in a previously unscheduled appearance that the House must approve the two-month extension passed by a strong bipartisan majority in the Senate.

Now how can any ********* supporter spending the Hundreds of Thousands/Millions of dollars in cost to call back all the Senate- and their staffs from their Christmas break (which they left on with Boners word of accepting the bi-partisan Senate agreement) :???:

When the higher taxes start coming out of folks checks in January- and more old folks doctors quit seeing them- I hope they remember this was all handled...
And the argument they now use to say they want to do it on longterm is a joke-- as they've known about this for months- but did nothing until now when they try to promote a "dog and pony show" which will again cost taxpayers big money!!

This shows the TEAPARTY is a bunch of HYPOCRITS when they say they want to cut expenses...
And the reason I agree with McCain that the 2012 election will have a third party (which will probably give Obama a free walk into a second term)..

Oldtimer, You are suppose to be the moderator of this site and you should lead by example. The only example you are showing us with this thread is how to be more disgusting with every derogitory name posted. Do us all a favor PLEASE before you post any more think about what your behavior as a SITE MODERATOR is doing to your's and the site's reputation. :roll:

 

[Anonymous]

I have to agree with McCain on this one- except what good would getting the Repub and Dem leaders together to work on an agreement do- Boner has shown that his word means nothing- even to the point of lying to his fellow party members in Congress...

Nope- time for Boner to leave- so he and Denny Rehberg can spend more of their time in the Washington Bars and party scene... Maybe when out of leadership they won't be putting up so many pictures of his bloodshot eyes !!

McCain: Payroll-tax fight 'harming the Republican Party'By Jonathan Easley - 12/20/11 05:07 PM ET

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said the failure of the House to approve the bipartisan Senate bill to extend the payroll-tax cut is "harming the Republican Party."

Speaking Tuesday on CNN's "Situation Room," McCain said that while it's inevitable that the tax cut will ultimately be extended, the infighting reflects poorly on Republicans and Congress as a whole.


"It is harming the Republican Party. It is harming the view, if it's possible anymore, of the American people about Congress," McCain said. "We've got to get this resolved and with the realization that the payroll-tax cut must remain in effect."

McCain called on both parties to reconvene now that Republicans voted to send the Senate bill to conference committee, rather than to the House floor for a vote.

"I think we have to recognize reality, and that is that we are not going to see the payroll-tax cut expire on the 1st of January, and we have to accommodate to that reality," McCain said. "It would not be fair to the American people at this time, and so it seems to me that Republican leaders and [Senate Democratic Leader] Harry Reid [Nev.] and [House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio)] and [House Democratic Leader Nancy] Pelosi [Calif.] should sit down together with the administration and figure out a way through this."

McCain was one of 89 senators who overwhelmingly voted to extend the payroll-tax cut through February to give the sides more time to come to an agreement on how to pay for it. House Republicans say that debate should happen now.

Some GOP senators — a number of whom are up for re-election next year — have blasted House Republican leaders for not getting rank-and-file members to back the Senate bill.

"It angers me that House Republicans would rather continue playing politics than find solutions," centrist Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) said in a news release. "Their actions will hurt American families and be detrimental to our fragile economy. We are Americans first; now is not the time for drawing lines in the sand."

 

[Larrry]

Hey ot, you being a PIGGER and all how do you support the Occupy movement

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Computer hackers are avenging the Occupy movement by exposing the personal information of police officers who evicted protesters and threatening family-values advocates who led a boycott of an American Muslim television show.

In three Internet postings last week, hackers from the loose online coalition called Anonymous published the email and physical addresses, phone numbers and, in some cases, salary details of thousands of law enforcement officers all over the country.

The hackers said they were retaliating for police violence during evictions of Occupy protest camps in cities around the country, but law enforcement advocates slammed the disclosures as dangerous.

"I hope the individuals behind these cyberattacks understand the consequences of what they are doing," said John Adler, president of the Federal Law Enforcement Officers Association. "There are very dangerous criminals out there who might seek retribution" against any of these police officers.

Another hacker calling himself ihazcAnNONz struck the website of the Florida Family Association. The group opposes gay marriage and has promoted a successful but highly controversial boycott of advertisers on the reality TV show "All-American Muslim."

Occupy D.C. protesters stand off with police as they block 14th and K streets NW in Washington on Wednesday, Dec. 7, 2011. (T.J. Kirkpatrick/The Washington Times)The group says the show is "propaganda clearly designed to counter legitimate and present-day concerns about many Muslims who are advancing Islamic fundamentalism and Shariah law."

Supporters of the show say it depicts ordinary Muslim-American families living their normal lives, and they accuse its critics bigotry.

The hacker, ihazcAnNONz, warned the Florida family group, "Your hatred, bigotry and fear mongering towards Gays, Lesbians and most recently Muslim Americans has not gone unnoticed!"

In an Internet posting, he told the family association he was reading its email, and he provided email addresses and partial credit-card information of two dozen or so of the group's supporters. He referred to the Occupy Wall Street movement's slogan about the "1 percent" and the "99 percent."

"I am going to assume most of the people who receive your newsletter, email you and make donations are potentially part of the 99 percent … who have been mislead by all of your [expletive] and god talk," he wrote, adding that he therefore would not post confidential information on them.

The family association did not respond to an emailed request for comment.

Last week, a hacker calling himself Exphin1ty posted the email and physical addresses, phone numbers and encrypted passwords of more than 2,400 police officers and corporate security executives.

"We have seen our fellow brothers and sisters being teargassed for exercising their fundamental liberal rights," he wrote.

He urged fellow hackers with access to greater computing power to crack the encryption on passwords and see if the victims had used the same password for any other accounts.

Websites that require users to register typically store data such as names, email addresses and passwords on their servers.

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