I as well will still visit once in a while and post occasionally as I do on Agri-ville but am seriously missing the old format and the passion of emotions that was "allowed" under the old ranchers. I agree totally that if you don't like it you don't have to go there, read or post on it but some of us liked it for whatever reasons. I'm not a big curser or scrapper but still found the "passion" of some people on the old site drawing me back time and time again. Short version is, if anyone finds another "ranchers" or similiar site, let me know and count me in! There are millions of sites like the way this one is now and is not really the kind that attracted me in the first place. Sorry, Macon, I appreciate what you're trying to do, it's just not what really attracted me to ranchers or what kept me comeing back time and time again. Have a good day all and thanks for reading from Canada.