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'Welcome home,' Obama tells troops from Iraq
By Tom Cohen, CNN
updated 2:58 PM EST, Wed December 14, 2011

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama on Wednesday welcomed home returning troops from Iraq, hailing their service to help a people they didn't know as an example of what makes America great.

"As your commander in chief, and on behalf of a grateful nation, I'm proud to finally say these two words, and I know your families agree -- welcome home. Welcome home," Obama told cheering troops at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.

"Welcome home," he repeated again, to enthusiastic applause. "Welcome home."

The U.S. military mission that began in 2003 is ending this month, and Obama used the speech to mark the fulfillment of a campaign pledge he made in 2008 to end the war.

Noting the almost 4,500 Americans killed and more than 30,000 injured, Obama spoke of the heavy sacrifice and hard work in the Iraq mission.

"Because of you -- because you sacrificed so much for a people that you had never met, Iraqis have a chance to forge their own destiny," Obama said. "That's part of what makes us special as Americans. Unlike the empires of old, we did so not for territory or for resources. We do it because it's right.

"There can be no fuller expression of America's support for self-determination than our leaving Iraq to its people. That says something about who we are."

Obama also paid tribute to the military families back home, noting their struggles to make ends meet during the years of the Iraqi campaign.

"So today, as we mark the end of the war, let us acknowledge, let us give a heartfelt round of applause for every military family that has carried that load over the last nine years," the president said. "You too have the thanks of a grateful nation."

Conservative critics have opposed Obama's decision to end the U.S. military presence in Iraq, arguing that some American forces should remain to help the Iraqis maintain order.

On Wednesday, Obama's opponent for the presidency in 2008 -- Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona -- noted the president had opposed the troop surge ordered by former President George W. Bush that some credit with helping secure stability.

"For three years, the president has been harvesting the successes of the very strategy that he consistently dismissed as a failure," McCain said on the Senate floor.

Sharply criticizing the decision for a full withdrawal, McCain said history would judge Obama's leadership "with the disdain and scorn it deserves."

In his speech, Obama said the Iraq war was "a source of great controversy here at home, with patriots on both sides of the debate."

"It is harder to end a war than to begin one," the president continued in an apparent response to critics such as McCain.

Noting that Iraq today is not a "perfect place" and faces challenges, Obama said, "We are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people."

He said, "We are building a new partnership between our nations. And we are ending a war not with a final battle but with a final march toward home."

He credited the efforts of the 1.5 million Americans in Iraq during the war, and said those who served would be honored in perpetuity.

"The war in Iraq will soon belong to history," Obama said. "Your service belongs to the ages."

Obama also pledged continued government support for the military, and for troops and their families after they return to civilian life, even in the face of deficit reduction efforts that threaten deep cuts in the military budget.

"Make no mistake, as we go forward as a nation, we are going to keep America's armed forces the strongest fighting force the world has ever seen. That will not stop," Obama said to cheers and applause, repeating: "That will not stop."

In Washington, a group of conservative Republican senators said Wednesday they intend to propose legislation that would prevent mandated reductions in military spending after a special congressional committee failed to reach a deficit reduction deal last month.

The so-called sequestration trigger under the debt ceiling agreement in August required an additional $600 billion in military cuts because of the special committee's failure to forge a comprehensive deficit deal.

Obama has said he would reject any effort by Congress to avoid the impact of the sequestration trigger,
which was included in the debt ceiling deal to motivate legislators to reach agreement on a broader deficit reduction plan.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, challenged Obama to rescind his veto threat, saying deficits can be reduced without "gutting" the military.


Another speech claiming credit for something that was a success in spite of him. :roll: This sleazy slime ball will never admit he had nothing to do with the success in Iraq. :x

McCain is right he has been living off the successes of the Bush Administration, but he takes the cake this time by standing in front of the Millitary and claiming he is going to retain the World Super Power of the US Millitary with his Lead from behind policies. :roll:

We all know the Democrats would like nothing more than to gut the millitary and they wouldif it wasn't for the fight they would face from those that really care about the security of the US and their allies. They would take the Millitary funding and create more entitlement programs targeting their voting blocks :x


troop surge ordered by former President George W. Bush that some credit with helping secure stability
Note to the CNN liberal jerk the Bush Surge is why there was success in Iraq. :roll:
 

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Candidate Obama

On War & Peace: Surge has not succeeded because it ignores political issues
Q: What’s your assessment of the Gen. Petraeus testimony on Iraq?
A: Well, after hearing two days of testimony, let’s be clear on exactly what they said. That after putting an additional 30,000 troops in, far longer & more troops than the president had initially said, we have gone from a horrendous situation of violence in Iraq to the same intolerable levels of violence that we had back in June of 2006. So, essentially, after all this we’re back where we were 15 months ago. And what has not happened is any movement with respect to the sort of political accommodations among the various factions, the Shia, the Sunni, and Kurds that were the rationale for surge and that ultimately is going to be what stabilizes Iraq. So, I think it is fair to say that the president has simply tried to gain another six months to continue on the same course that he’s been on for several years now. It is a course that will not succeed. It is a course that is exacting an enormous toll on the American people & our troops.

Source: Huffington Post Mash-Up: 2007 Democratic on-line debate Sep 13, 2007

President Obama taking credit today

The U.S. military mission that began in 2003 is ending this month, and Obama used the speech to mark the fulfillment of a campaign pledge he made in 2008 to end the war.

Noting the almost 4,500 Americans killed and more than 30,000 injured, Obama spoke of the heavy sacrifice and hard work in the Iraq mission.

"Because of you -- because you sacrificed so much for a people that you had never met, Iraqis have a chance to forge their own destiny," Obama said. "That's part of what makes us special as Americans. Unlike the empires of old, we did so not for territory or for resources. We do it because it's right.

"There can be no fuller expression of America's support for self-determination than our leaving Iraq to its people. That says something about who we are."

snip

Obama said, "We are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people."

He said, "We are building a new partnership between our nations. And we are ending a war not with a final battle but with a final march toward home."

He credited the efforts of the 1.5 million Americans in Iraq during the war, and said those who served would be honored in perpetuity.

"The war in Iraq will soon belong to history," Obama said. "Your service belongs to the ages."

A COMPLETE SLIME BALL
 

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Tam said:
Candidate Obama

On War & Peace: Surge has not succeeded because it ignores political issues
Q: What’s your assessment of the Gen. Petraeus testimony on Iraq?
A: Well, after hearing two days of testimony, let’s be clear on exactly what they said. That after putting an additional 30,000 troops in, far longer & more troops than the president had initially said, we have gone from a horrendous situation of violence in Iraq to the same intolerable levels of violence that we had back in June of 2006. So, essentially, after all this we’re back where we were 15 months ago. And what has not happened is any movement with respect to the sort of political accommodations among the various factions, the Shia, the Sunni, and Kurds that were the rationale for surge and that ultimately is going to be what stabilizes Iraq. So, I think it is fair to say that the president has simply tried to gain another six months to continue on the same course that he’s been on for several years now. It is a course that will not succeed. It is a course that is exacting an enormous toll on the American people & our troops.

Source: Huffington Post Mash-Up: 2007 Democratic on-line debate Sep 13, 2007

President Obama taking credit today

The U.S. military mission that began in 2003 is ending this month, and Obama used the speech to mark the fulfillment of a campaign pledge he made in 2008 to end the war.

Noting the almost 4,500 Americans killed and more than 30,000 injured, Obama spoke of the heavy sacrifice and hard work in the Iraq mission.

"Because of you -- because you sacrificed so much for a people that you had never met, Iraqis have a chance to forge their own destiny," Obama said. "That's part of what makes us special as Americans. Unlike the empires of old, we did so not for territory or for resources. We do it because it's right.

"There can be no fuller expression of America's support for self-determination than our leaving Iraq to its people. That says something about who we are."

snip

Obama said, "We are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people."

He said, "We are building a new partnership between our nations. And we are ending a war not with a final battle but with a final march toward home."

He credited the efforts of the 1.5 million Americans in Iraq during the war, and said those who served would be honored in perpetuity.

"The war in Iraq will soon belong to history," Obama said. "Your service belongs to the ages."

A COMPLETE SLIME BALL

Shouldn't he get some credit? Wasn't it the Iraqi government that saw what he was doing here and told him to get the he!! out of their country?
 

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okfarmer said:
Tam said:
Candidate Obama

On War & Peace: Surge has not succeeded because it ignores political issues
Q: What’s your assessment of the Gen. Petraeus testimony on Iraq?
A: Well, after hearing two days of testimony, let’s be clear on exactly what they said. That after putting an additional 30,000 troops in, far longer & more troops than the president had initially said, we have gone from a horrendous situation of violence in Iraq to the same intolerable levels of violence that we had back in June of 2006. So, essentially, after all this we’re back where we were 15 months ago. And what has not happened is any movement with respect to the sort of political accommodations among the various factions, the Shia, the Sunni, and Kurds that were the rationale for surge and that ultimately is going to be what stabilizes Iraq. So, I think it is fair to say that the president has simply tried to gain another six months to continue on the same course that he’s been on for several years now. It is a course that will not succeed. It is a course that is exacting an enormous toll on the American people & our troops.

Source: Huffington Post Mash-Up: 2007 Democratic on-line debate Sep 13, 2007

President Obama taking credit today

The U.S. military mission that began in 2003 is ending this month, and Obama used the speech to mark the fulfillment of a campaign pledge he made in 2008 to end the war.

Noting the almost 4,500 Americans killed and more than 30,000 injured, Obama spoke of the heavy sacrifice and hard work in the Iraq mission.

"Because of you -- because you sacrificed so much for a people that you had never met, Iraqis have a chance to forge their own destiny," Obama said. "That's part of what makes us special as Americans. Unlike the empires of old, we did so not for territory or for resources. We do it because it's right.

"There can be no fuller expression of America's support for self-determination than our leaving Iraq to its people. That says something about who we are."

snip

Obama said, "We are leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people."

He said, "We are building a new partnership between our nations. And we are ending a war not with a final battle but with a final march toward home."

He credited the efforts of the 1.5 million Americans in Iraq during the war, and said those who served would be honored in perpetuity.

"The war in Iraq will soon belong to history," Obama said. "Your service belongs to the ages."

A COMPLETE SLIME BALL

Shouldn't he get some credit? Wasn't it the Iraqi government that saw what he was doing here and told him to get the he!! out of their country?

Well I'd have to say they are not stupid people after all. :wink:
 

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What's funny is that they tried to negotiate a stay, but couldn't. So you can report the truth, or you can spin it a little to- Iraq is doing well and we promised we would end our presence and we have held up our promise.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10760919

When the 2008 agreement requiring all US forces to leave Iraq was passed, many US officials assumed it would inevitably be renegotiated so that American forces could stay longer.

The US said repeatedly this year it would entertain an offer from the Iraqis to have a small force stay behind, and the Iraqis said they would like American military help. But as the year wore on and the number of American troops that Washington was suggesting could stay behind dropped, it became increasingly clear that a US troop presence was not a sure thing.

The issue of legal protection for the Americans was the deal-breaker.

Pulling troops out by the end of this year allows both al-Maliki and Obama to claim victory.

Obama kept a campaign promise to end the war, and al-Maliki will have ended the American presence in Iraq and restored Iraqi sovereignty.



Iraq's Sadr demands U.S. forces pull out
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2011-08/09/c_131039201.htm
"Enough of this occupation, terror and abuse. We are not in need of your help. We are able to combat and defeat terrorism and achieve unity," Sadr said.

The Iraqi people have only witnessed poverty, fear, human rights abuses, poor security conditions, terror and sectarian militia which the Americans themselves have invented," Sadr said.

Sadr repeatedly confirmed his stance earlier to oppose the presence of U.S. troops in Iraq after the Dec. 31 deadline for withdrawal, even as trainers for the Iraqi security forces.

"Anyone who stays in Iraq from America will be treated as oppressive occupier that should be resisted through military means, " Sadr said in a statement two days ago.

Sadr's latest remarks came as the Iraqi political leaders agreed in a meeting a week ago to give green light to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to start talks with the United States about allowing some U.S. troops to stay in Iraq beyond the deadline of the end of 2011 only for training the Iraqi security forces.

U.S. forces to stay in Iraq into 2012, says Leon Panetta

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0811/61731.html#ixzz1gZu7re4y
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said Iraq’s government has agreed to extend the U.S. military presence in the country beyond 2011 — but Iraq quickly rejected the claim.

The word from Panetta, during an interview with Stars & Stripes, was the first official indication that any of the 46,000 American troops will remain in Iraq beyond the country’s Dec. 31 deadline for U.S. forces to leave. The U.S. and Iraq reached a security agreement in 2008 that the entire American military would be out of the country by the end of 2011.


http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/21/source-almost-all-u-s-troops-out-of-iraq-by-years-end/
About 39,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq, and the U.S. had wanted to keep from 3,000 to 5,000 troops in Iraq past 2011 to aid in training and security. But the current Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq dictates the U.S. troops leave by year's end, and the United States and Iraq had been unable to come to an agreement on key issues regarding legal immunity for U.S. troops who would remain in Iraq, effectively ending discussion of maintaining a significant American force presence beyond 2011.
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