On the note of talking about them the same, it's true that we pretty well evaluate them the same. We had slick American steers at San Antonio last week and they were fall down easy to line up. But we'll get some purebred Brahman bulls or heifers in the contest at Houston with some data. Basically just throwing in that apparently there's good and bad hump structure and talk a little extra about sheaths with the cactus and brush issues where they run those eared cattle down there.