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Branding photos from Saturday

I was just pointing out that I really wasn't arguing with you.
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Like Hanta said, I was one who always thought it was law to brand, when really branding is just the easiest way to comply with the law.
So far as the rest of your current post:
how are they going to decide who he belongs too?
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I already posted the part of the SD brand law that pertains:

40-21-10 ..."If any livestock are unbranded, the inspector may require the shipper or seller to establish his ownership by presenting to the inspector an affidavit of ownership. Only an original bill of sale or affidavit of ownership is valid for proof of ownership. Any bill of sale or affidavit shall be notarized or signed by two witnesses."

It seems to be up to the inspector.
If s/he's confident that the animal probably belongs to the possesor, they let it by. If there's question, they can request proof of ownership.
 
Jinglebob said:
theHiredMansWife said:
Jinglebob said:
Go ahead and argue brand inspection with me, in SD. I was an inspector for 11 years.
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How do you figure I was arguing with you? :???:
I guess it's not so much that the brand is the law, but rather the brand is the easiest way to follow the law.


And according to SD brand law if the inspector asks you to prove ownership (in the absence of a brand), you have to come up with either a bill of sale, or a signed affidavit, right?

ETA: I just looked it up--
40-21-10 ..."If any livestock are unbranded, the inspector may require the shipper or seller to establish his ownership by presenting to the inspector an affidavit of ownership. Only an original bill of sale or affidavit of ownership is valid for proof of ownership. Any bill of sale or affidavit shall be notarized or signed by two witnesses."
(which is why our neighbor was teasing us about making us leave those two behind. :wink: )
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Boy, it must be the spring air or something! Everybody is getting testy! :wink:

OK, so if you raise a calf and don't brand it, and he is weaned and you go to sell him, how are they going to decide who he belongs too?

If a slick doesn't belong to the person in possesion, why bother to brand?

It's sure a lot easier to sell someone elses cattle for yourself, if they don't have a brand on them.

My grandfather found two slick yearlings and was told by his brother in law to regester a brand and put it on the cattle and he'd be started in the cow business. He did and he was.

O my gash! Grampa was, kind of a cow theif? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Could do nothing but make money on those two.
 
theHiredMansWife said:
I was just pointing out that I really wasn't arguing with you.
confused-smiley-013.gif

Like Hanta said, I was one who always thought it was law to brand, when really branding is just the easiest way to comply with the law.
So far as the rest of your current post:
how are they going to decide who he belongs too?
Click to expand...
I already posted the part of the SD brand law that pertains:

40-21-10 ..."If any livestock are unbranded, the inspector may require the shipper or seller to establish his ownership by presenting to the inspector an affidavit of ownership. Only an original bill of sale or affidavit of ownership is valid for proof of ownership. Any bill of sale or affidavit shall be notarized or signed by two witnesses."

It seems to be up to the inspector.
If s/he's confident that the animal probably belongs to the possesor, they let it by. If there's question, they can request proof of ownership.
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What do you do with livestock you sell that is home raised with no brand? I guess write yourself a bill of sale. :lol: :shock: Never heard of it being inforced unless another claims it as his. Then the other not in possession would have to prove that is was his. Possesion is 9/10ths of the law. :lol: :lol:
 
I guarantee I had nothing to do with the writing of the law, but there it is anyway. :lol:

However, i can say that this:
What do you do with livestock you sell that is home raised with no brand?
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is where the affidavit would come in. (Were ownership contested, that is) But of course branding would solve the whole problem since that's considered proof of ownership.
 
It's also interesting that Eastern. S. Dakota don't require brand insp, but W part does. Sooooo, it's just best to brand everything you own to prove ownership. This is also where we run into problems with NAIS as I don't think the smaller herds in S. US will comply. They have no brand, many don't vaccinate against Brucellosis, - just like the last BSE cow. She had nothing :!: NAIS is to traceback diseases, esp FMD which is extremely contagious and it's essential to find out where it came from and where it's going to get it contained. Sorry to get off on a tangent :lol:
 
WE sell stuff all the time with out a brand. we don't brand steers, all we brand now days is gonna be replacement heifers. We've never been asked for a bill of sale or proof of ownership at the salebarn. "IF" they are branded there is supposed to be a brand inspector there on hand at the sale barn to inspect it.
That bein said, there's also supposed to be an inspection on any cattle that are picked up as estray's....which we just went thru here while back. Electric company came thru cuttin right of ways, and cut fences as well......when our cattle were at the sale barn, (that's where the sheriff's office takes estrays) there was no brand inspector anywhere to be found, he'd never been there to check out the cattle....and all 6 had our brand on em. After speakin with the Sheriff, and lettin him know I was very displeased with them not following proceedures, no one called us, and they'd been there 4 days....my money was refunded..in full.
 
I find this very interesting, Jersey, since Texas is the only state in the union with a brand law. Interesting. I think it's like all the rest of us in the Western states, we think there is a brand law, so we do it. You in TX have a brand law and no one wants to comply to it, because no one knows about the law :?

Here is a very interesting site,

Google - brand laws, Texas
When the google shows up, you will see #2, Texas brand laws. Read them. They are interesting and are FOR REAL. Pass this on to your neighbors...
 
That is interestin. I wonder why it's not inforced? Ours all get tags in their ears....but that's just a generic number tag. Any neighbor could go to the local feed store and buy a tag just like ours. The only ear mark they get is a V knotch that signifies they've had their blackleg vaccine, it's not used as an identifier.(kinda a standard around here for calves goin to sale, the buyers know they've been blacklegged) This last time we were half way done when I noticed no one had a knotched ear. I asked why they wern't knotchin, and basically they just forgot. The calves were gettin their blackleg vaccine, just no ear mark.
I'm wonderin how old that law is. Since very few comply with it these days.
 

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