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Breaking News: Patraeus is leaving

Faster horses

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Now that the election is over, Petraeus is resigning - Just like Watergate - the coverup persisted long enough for Obama to be re-elected - and now the truth will come out. Patraeus, Hilary, Holder are all jumping ship. Wonder why? There will be excuses, but may the TRUTH prevail.



Cracks are beginning to show in the Obama administration's united front on the Benghazi consulate as blame for security failures shifts between the State Department and the CIA. Last night, starting around 6 p.m., the CIA began circulating the most comprehensive timeline yet of its response to the September 11 attack to reporters. The timeline showed that within 25 minutes of receiving calls for help, CIA operatives left their compound to assist the besieged consulate. But later on Thursday night, officials in the Obama administration leaked a series of damaging remarks about the CIA's handling of Benghazi to The Wall Street Journal with a slew of grievances directed at CIA Director David Petraeus. The fast-developing story set in place a dispute over who's responsible for the security failure, which remains unclear.

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As with everything, the context here is key. According to The Journal's report, the security situation in Benghazi relied on a "symbiotic" relationship between the State Department and the CIA, in which the State Department in Benghazi served as a front for CIA activities while the CIA provided backup security. But on the night of Sept. 11, it became clear that the arrangement was flawed: "The CIA and State Department weren’t on the same page about their respective roles on security, underlining the rift between agencies over taking responsibility," reports the Journal. But here's where things get personal. According to officials speaking with the Journal, Petraeus was phoning it in on the night of the attack:

At one point during the consulate siege, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton telephoned the CIA director directly to seek assistance. Real-time intelligence from the field was scarce and some officials at State and the Pentagon were largely in the dark about the CIA's role ... At the State Department that night, officials frantically tried to find out what was happening. In recent interviews, some administration officials criticized the CIA for not being forthcoming with information ...

Some senior administration officials say they were surprised Mr. Petraeus went to that night's private Washington screening of the movie Argo, about a covert CIA operation in 1979 in Tehran.

If that weren't critical enough, the article also contains the additional barb that Petraeus didn't show adequate respect for the CIA operatives who were killed in Benghazi. "Mr. Petraeus didn't attend funerals held later for the two CIA contractors, irking some administration officials and CIA veterans," reads the report. For national security experts pouring over the Journal story, the airing of these details was extraordinary.

Wow. Someone is trying to end Dave Petraeus' career here. professional.wsj.com/article/SB1000…

— Noah Shachtman (@dangerroom) November 2, 2012
This is the WH declaring war on the Director, nothing less online.wsj.com/article/SB1000…

— Kalashnikitty (@CustosDivini) November 2, 2012
The depiction of Petraeus as less than responsive during a crisis and less than sympathetic in its aftermath, certainly was not flattering. The CIA, however, denies this depiction of both the director and the agency in general. This morning, a senior U.S. intelligence officer tells us, "At every level in the chain of command, from the senior officers in Libya to the most senior officials in Washington, everyone was fully engaged in trying to provide whatever help they could." To drive that point home, the agency had the timeline chronicling its asserted attempts to assist the besieged consulate.

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As this inter-agency squabble plays out it's impossible to say who's more culpable. However, stepping back a bit, there seems to be a hole in last night's State Department narrative that the CIA let down State officials in their time of need. It suggests that State had taken the necessary precautions to secure its officials, but the CIA never came through. But if that were the case, how come Amb. Chris Stevens and other State personnel continued to petition State for additional security in the run-up to the attack? The Washington Post's Max Fisher fleshes out this point well:

Based on unsigned letters discovered at the consulate grounds weeks after the attack, it appears that Stevens did not see the building’s day-to-day security as adequate and was asking for more.

This day-to-day Libyan-provided security is distinct from the “emergency” CIA security, but if Stevens saw the former as insufficient, then why now is there so much focus on the latter’s inability to save the day?

In essence, based on what we know from congressional testimony and other resources, it's difficult to see how some State Department officials can shift all the blame to the CIA. But maybe we'll know if the drip, drip, drip of additional leaks continues.
 

BRG

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This is a bunch of ****! They should all be in jail over this! They all knew about it and covered it up until the election and now we are stuck. I have never said this before but I hope the truth comes out and they are all nailed to the wall. People died over it and they covered it up just so the idiot can get re-elected. This really angers the hell out of me! All these idiots know how to do it lie! :mad:
 

Faster horses

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BRG said:
This is a bunch of s***! They should all be in jail over this! They all knew about it and covered it up until the election and now we are stuck. I have never said this before but I hope the truth comes out and they are all nailed to the wall. People died over it and they covered it up just so the idiot can get re-elected. This really angers the hell out of me! All these idiots know how to do it lie! :mad:

Now the breaking news is that Petraeus is leaving because of an
extra-marital love affair. :twisted: Probably another lie, but a pretty
bad one.
 

BRG

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Faster horses said:
BRG said:
This is a bunch of s***! They should all be in jail over this! They all knew about it and covered it up until the election and now we are stuck. I have never said this before but I hope the truth comes out and they are all nailed to the wall. People died over it and they covered it up just so the idiot can get re-elected. This really angers the hell out of me! All these idiots know how to do it lie! :mad:

Now the breaking news is that Petraeus is leaving because of an
extra-marital love affair. :twisted: Probably another lie, but a pretty
bad one.

I call BS!
 

Mike

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BRG said:
Faster horses said:
BRG said:
This is a bunch of s***! They should all be in jail over this! They all knew about it and covered it up until the election and now we are stuck. I have never said this before but I hope the truth comes out and they are all nailed to the wall. People died over it and they covered it up just so the idiot can get re-elected. This really angers the hell out of me! All these idiots know how to do it lie! :mad:

Now the breaking news is that Petraeus is leaving because of an
extra-marital love affair. :twisted: Probably another lie, but a pretty
bad one.

I call BS!

No. It's true. He let Obama f#$% him once too often.
 

TexasBred

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What perfect timing. I'm sure Buckwheat told him to pack up and he did. Wonder what he knows that they don't want anyone else to know. Next he'll have a massive stroke or heart attack within a few weeks. Running from Benghazi.
 

Yanuck

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BRG said:
This is a bunch of s***! They should all be in jail over this! They all knew about it and covered it up until the election and now we are stuck. I have never said this before but I hope the truth comes out and they are all nailed to the wall. People died over it and they covered it up just so the idiot can get re-elected. This really angers the hell out of me! All these idiots know how to do it lie! :mad:

BRG, do you really honestly think it would have mattered to the majority of people who voted for Obama? really?, apparently non of the last 4 yrs mattered to them,because they gave him 4 more yrs, so why would this have?
 

BRG

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Yanuck said:
BRG said:
This is a bunch of s***! They should all be in jail over this! They all knew about it and covered it up until the election and now we are stuck. I have never said this before but I hope the truth comes out and they are all nailed to the wall. People died over it and they covered it up just so the idiot can get re-elected. This really angers the hell out of me! All these idiots know how to do it lie! :mad:

BRG, do you really honestly think it would have mattered to the majority of people who voted for Obama? really?, apparently non of the last 4 yrs mattered to them,because they gave him 4 more yrs, so why would this have?

Maybe not, but at least it would have been out in the open. This cover up bullshit needs to end. Send them all to jail!
 

Larrry

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Tam

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They just said that now that he is a private citizen again if the Congress does call him to testify he can lawyer up. What makes me think that is exactly what Obama wants?
The FBI found out he had had an affair while investing and now he is out, gee what better way to stop him from testifing to what Obama knew than to allow a guy that doesn't see eye to eye with you resign and lawyer up.
 

jigs

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get the Republicans to give him immunity on anything he tells them, then let him spill his guts... Obama, Hillary and the whole lot go to prison....
 

Tam

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jigs said:
get the Republicans to give him immunity on anything he tells them, then let him spill his guts... Obama, Hillary and the whole lot go to prison....

If the Republicans make that deal they better plan on providing him with some top notch security protection before and after he testifies. As I see him lasting about two seconds after he agrees to any deal to testify against this Administration of corrupt crooks.
 

TSR

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I hate to see this for Patraeus, imo he has been one of the best generals ever, undertaking extremely hard tasks, maybe I'm wrong but that is how I see the man over the yrs. Its sad. :cry:
 

Larrry

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He has had plenty experience in being attacked. Remeber how they tried to ruin him by calling him names. Betray us.
But that is one thing, there are some people will do anything to make the military look bad.
 

Steve

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This is the WH declaring war on the Director, nothing less online.wsj.com

and every-time they declare war on a person ,they look for a scandal and exploit it..

at every step of Obama's career has him peeping into someones private life and exploiting what they have done.. and OT is worried about the bedroom police while ignoring one of the worst offenders..

the timing of this is suspicious.. (just like the CEO of Lockheed stepping down) .. only days after the election..



The FBI found out he had had an affair while investing and now he is out

why is the FBI investigation digging into anyone's' personal life?
 

Steve

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TSR said:
I hate to see this for Patraeus, imo he has been one of the best generals ever, undertaking extremely hard tasks, maybe I'm wrong but that is how I see the man over the yrs. Its sad. :cry:

I have alot of respect for his career and the leadership he has brought to our military. but he made a mistake,.. one considered poor judgement in his field.

I also think we should hold our leaders to a higher standard and he should resign.
 

Steve

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hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
why is the FBI investigation digging into anyone's' personal life?

I believe in this case, they were investigating her, having access to his email. Were they not?

it still looks as if they went on a fishing expedition..

The FBI discovered the relationship by monitoring Petraeus' emails, after being alerted Broadwell may have had access to his personal email account, two of the officials said.

The law enforcement officials said they do not believe the FBI investigation will result in any criminal charges.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/09/15056607-petraeus-biographer-paula-broadwell-under-fbi-investigation-over-access-to-his-email-law-enforcement-officials-say

personal e-mail accounts are not and should not be for any classified or even sensitive information...
 
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