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Breaking news--shredded reload ammo casings

Faster horses

Well-known member
This should be another wake-up call to add to those we already have had. When is this going to stop?

If this doesn't tee you off, you are either dead or need to move to another country.



Breaking news

Georgia Arms is the 5th largest retailer of ..223 Ammo in America . (they
sell 9 mm, .45, etc ammo)

They normally buy spent brass from the US Dept of Defense - 'one time
used' shell casings by our Military - from training on Military bases,
etc. They buy the brass and then re-load for resale to Law Enforcement,
Gun Shops, Gun Clubs, Wal-Mart, and etc.

They normally buy 30,000 lbs of spent brass at a time.

This week the DoD wrote a letter to the owner of Georgia Arms and said
that from now on the DoD will be destroying the brass - shredding it.
It is no longer available to the Ammo makers - unless they just buy it
in a scrap shredded condition (which they have No use for). The
shredded brass is NOW going to be sold by the DoD to China as scrap
metal....after the DoD pays for it to be shredded. The DoD is selling
the brass to China for less money than Ammo manufacturers have been
paying...plus the DoD has to pay to have the brass shredded and do all
the accounting paperwork. That sure helps the US economy now, doesn't
it? Sell cheaper to China - and do not sell shells at all to a proven
US business. Any agenda working here???? Obama going after our
ammunition!!!!!

The Georgia Arms owner even related a story that one of his competitors
had already purchased a load of brass last week - and the DoD contacted
him this week and said they were sending someone over to make sure it
was destroyed. Shell Casings he had already bought! THE BRASS HAS NO
VALUE TO THE AMMO MAKER IF IT IS DESTROYED/SHREDDED/MELTED. THE AMMO
MANUFACTURER ONLY USES THE EMPTY BRASS SHELLS TO RELOAD DIFFERENT
CALIBERS - MAINLY .223 BULLETS.

Georgia Arms owner says that he will have to lay off at least Half of
his 60 workers, within 2 - 3 months if the DoD no longer sells their
spent brass to him. He has 2 - 3 months inventory of shells to use. By
summer - he's out. If he has to buy new manufactured brass shells, then
the cost of ammunitioin to the buyer will double and triple...plus Obama
wants to add a 500% tax on each shell.



You can read the info and see the DoD letter to Georgia Arms here:

The Shootist Site

http://www.theshootist.net/



Georgia Arms Site:

http://georgia-arms.com/

Loss of US jobs, control of ammunition by the new Obama
administration....liberalism at its best and on the way to socialism.
When times get bad...and they will very soon...only the bad will have
guns and ammo. This new "Obomanation" is going to make good citizens
into crinimals by trying to take our guns and ammo.



AHH.............. Japan , 1939 millions of tons of US scrap but .........hey......... they gave it back 7 December 1941









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Faster horses

Well-known member
Now I have received this:

STATEMENT FROM NRA CHIEF LOBBYIST CHRIS W. COX
Military Surplus Cartridge Case Issue Resolved

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Yesterday morning, the Department of Defense informed NRA-ILA that fired military small arms cartridge cases are once again eligible for sale, following a temporary suspension in such sales instituted last week. NRA-ILA began discussions with DoD shortly after the suspension took effect, and we were assured from the beginning that efforts were underway to resolve the issue favorably.

Yesterday afternoon, DoD additionally confirmed the lifting of the suspension to pro-Second Amendment United States Senators Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who sent the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) a joint letter vigorously opposing the suspension, on the grounds that it had “an impact on small businesses who sell reloaded ammunition utilizing these fired casings, and upon individual gun owners who purchase spent military brass at considerable cost savings for their personal use.”

Everyone who would have been impacted by the suspension, had it become permanent, owes thanks to Senator Baucus for his leadership on this issue, as well as to Sen. Tester and U.S. Rep. Denny Rehberg (R-Mont.), who also weighed in strongly on behalf of gun owners and the suppliers from whom they obtain ammunition reloaded with surplus military brass.

In announcing that the suspension has been lifted, DoD also made clear that no cartridge cases that, in the absence of the suspension, would have been sold for reloading purposes were destroyed while the suspension was in effect. Such cases were instead protected by DoD during the suspension, and are again eligible for sale. With ammunition currently in short supply, that was welcome news, to be sure.

DLA also put to rest various theories and rumors that were circulated on the internet, concerning the reason for the suspension. As DLA explained to Senators Baucus and Tester, and to NRA-ILA, DoD officials responsible for the demilitarization of military property temporarily halted the release of the cartridge cases last week, pending review of a policy change issued last year by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, which, in the interest of national security, halted the sale of items within a broad category of government property including, but not limited to, surplus small arms cartridge cases.

To make cartridge cases eligible for sale once again, DoD demilitarization officials verified that the cases could be appropriately placed in a category of government property allowing for their release for use within the United States, and then executed the recategorization. Whereas during the brief suspension, fired cartridge cases would have been releaseable only if the purchaser crushed or smelted them, now the cases may be sold as before, intact and reloadable.

DoD also assured NRA-ILA that companies previously authorized to purchase cartridge cases under Trade Security Controls need no further vetting at this time, and are eligible to resume purchasing cases under the policy adopted yesterday.

In sum, a problem that could have had serious repercussions for the remanufactured ammunition industry and the countless gun owners who support it, appears to have been resolved quickly.

For more information:

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/DLA.MilitaryBrass.pdf

http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/DLA_mcunningham.pdf
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
"As DLA explained to Senators Baucus and Tester, and to NRA-ILA, DoD officials responsible for the demilitarization of military property temporarily halted the release of the cartridge cases last week, pending review of a policy change issued last year by the Office of the Secretary of Defense"

Does that really jive with the wording in the letter sent to Georgia Arms?;
"Recently it has been determined that fired munitions of all calibers, shapes and sizes have been designated to be Demil code B. As a result and in conjunction with DLA's current Demil code B policy, this notice will serve as official notification which requires Scrap Venture (SV) to implement mutilation as a condition of sale for all sales of fired munitions effective immediately"

I'm not buying this. First, the DoD was saying "It has been determined" and then when the Senators got involved it turned to "Pending review"? When a determination has been made, isn't the review over? Doesn't a review come before a determination?
 

Steve

Well-known member
looks as if the administration was "testing the waters" to see if the new policy would pass with out notice... thankfully it didn't...
 
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