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Buckwheat Blames "The Film" In UN Speech

Mike

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Disgusting..............................

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-president-speaks-un-about-youtube-video-posted-june-southern-californian
“That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world,” he said.

“I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity," said Obama. "It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well--for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion--we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.
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TexasBred

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Mike said:
Disgusting..............................

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-president-speaks-un-about-youtube-video-posted-june-southern-californian
“That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world,” he said.

“I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity," said Obama. "It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well--for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion--we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.
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Did he say anything about "Freedom of Speech". If you don't like it move back to your sandbox.
 

okfarmer

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There is no doubt in this election what he is.

I truly can't wait to watch the majority of Americans kick him down the road.



This just makes me want to go make a movie.
 

Mike

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okfarmer

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Wonder when he is going to denounce the intolerance of one of his biggest CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTORS who said this,

“The Bible looks like it started out as a game of mad libs.”


Why you don't hear any challenging questions from the media about this?

Oh, maybe this is what happens when you ask real questions of the state department and white house...

" I'm done with you. Inside of 5 minutes when I can log into my desktop, you'll be designated as Junk Mail."
 
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Anonymous

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TexasBred said:
Mike said:
Disgusting..............................

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-president-speaks-un-about-youtube-video-posted-june-southern-californian
“That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world,” he said.

“I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity," said Obama. "It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well--for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion--we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.
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Did he say anything about "Freedom of Speech". If you don't like it move back to your sandbox.


Moreover, there will always be those that reject human progress – dictators who cling to power, corrupt interests that depend on the status quo; and extremists who fan the flames of hate and division. From Northern Ireland to South Asia; from Africa to the Americas; from the Balkans to the Pacific Rim, we’ve witnessed convulsions that can accompany transitions to a new political order. At times, the conflicts arise along the fault lines of race or tribe; and often they arise from the difficulties of reconciling tradition and faith with the diversity and interdependence of the modern world. In every country, there are those who find different religious beliefs threatening; in every culture, those who love freedom for themselves must ask themselves how much they are willing to tolerate freedom for others.

That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well – for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion – we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.

I know there are some who ask why we don’t just ban such a video. The answer is enshrined in our laws: Our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech. Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. As president of our country, and commander-in-chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so. Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views – even views that we profoundly disagree with.

We do so not because we support hateful speech, but because our founders understood that without such protections, the capacity of each individual to express their own views, and practice their own faith, may be threatened. We do so because in a diverse society, efforts to restrict speech can quickly become a tool to silence critics and oppress minorities. We do so because given the power of faith in our lives, and the passion that religious differences can inflame, the strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression, it is more speech – the voices of tolerance that rally against bigotry and blasphemy, and lift up the values of understanding and mutual respect.

I know that not all countries in this body share this particular understanding of the protection of free speech – we recognize that. But in 2012, at a time when anyone with a cell phone can spread offensive views around the world with the click of a button, the notion that we can control the flow of information is obsolete. The question, then, is how do we respond. And on this we must agree: there is no speech that justifies mindless violence.

There are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. There is no video that justifies an attack on an Embassy. There is no slander that provides an excuse for people to burn a restaurant in Lebanon, or destroy a school in Tunis, or cause death and destruction in Pakistan. In this modern world, with modern technologies, for us to respond in that way to hateful speech empowers any individual who engages in such speech to create chaos around the world. We empower the worst of us, if that’s how we respond.


More broadly, the events of the last two weeks speak to the need for all of us to honestly address the tensions between the West and an Arab World that is moving towards democracy. Now let me be clear: Just as we cannot solve every problem in the world, the United States has not, and will not, seek to dictate the outcome of democratic transitions abroad. We do not expect other nations to agree with us on every issue. Nor do we assume that the violence of the past weeks, or the hateful speech by some individuals, represent the views of the overwhelming majority of Muslims– any more than the views of the people who produced this video represent those of Americans.

However, I do believe that it is the obligation of all leaders, in all countries, to speak out forcefully against violence and extremism. It is time to marginalize those who – even when not directly resorting to violence – use hatred of America, or the West, or Israel as the central organizing principle of politics. For that only gives cover, and sometimes makes an excuse, for those who do resort to violence.


I think he did a very good job of explaining freedom of speech- and hate mongers and why those folks keep promoting hate....
 

TexasBred

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Speaking at the United Nations this morning, for the first time since anti-American violence erupted in the Middle East on September 11, President Obama found his voice in defense of freedom of expression, American values, and the work of murdered U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens.

Though two weeks too late, it was quite refreshing to hear the President speak out in defense of Americans and American values.

However, Obama proceeded immediately to undermine his own message. What it added up to is this: In the United States, we believe strongly in free speech. But if you—the assembled leaders and potentates of the U.N.—do not, that’s okay with us, too.

Again, the offending YouTube video “The Innocence of Muslims” was the focus of attention:

We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them. I know there are some who ask why don’t we just ban such a video. The answer is enshrined in our laws. Our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech.

Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. As president of our country, and commander in chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so. [For some reason, this line got huge applause.]

Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views—even views that we profoundly disagree with. We do so not because we support hateful speech, but because our founders understood that without such protections, the capacity of each individual to express their own views and practice their own faith may be threatened.…

I know that not all countries in this body share this particular understanding of the protection of free speech. We recognize that.
What is this supposed to mean? Is it that the U.S. government is actually okay with the repression of a fundamental, universal human right in other countries and plans to do nothing about it? As happens so often happens with President Obama’s speeches, while initially uplifting, the rhetoric loses its luster when it turns out that rhetoric was all it was.

It is also worth pointing out that, while rhetorically defending free speech at the U.N., the Obama Administration has shown little inclination to defend this fundamental principle domestically. Any expression of religion—particularly Christianity—in the public sphere here at home, whether in schools or public institutions, is viciously attacked by the left.
Muslim leaders are reportedly planning to advocate for stronger anti-blasphemy measures during the General Assembly, building upon Human Rights Council Resolution 12/16, which passed in December with the help of the Obama Administration. Nevertheless, this push could present an opportunity for the Administration to take a stand for free speech—if it feels like putting actions behind its words.


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okfarmer

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talk about flopping all around . And since you apparently like the part you highlighted, are you saying you agree with Romney's first take? :D
 

hypocritexposer

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“[Y]ou know, the best way to marginalize that kind of speech is to ignore it.”
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/09/25/obama-on-the-view-the-world-should-ignore-that-mohammed-movie-my-administrations-been-talking-about-for-two-weeks/
 
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Anonymous

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okfarmer said:
talk about flopping all around . And since you apparently like the part you highlighted, are you saying you agree with Romney's first take? :D

I highlighted to answer Texasbred's question and show that he did speak on Freedom of Speech...
 

gmacbeef

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Oldtimer said:
okfarmer said:
talk about flopping all around . And since you apparently like the part you highlighted, are you saying you agree with Romney's first take? :D

I highlighted to answer Texasbred's question and show that he did speak on Freedom of Speech...

So Old timer , please explain why that Oblamea & Co. had the 2016 Obama movie removed from u-tube...........isn't that denying freedom of speech??
 

Traveler

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His lies about the Middle East blowing up over some obscure 14 minute movie are going to come back and bite him. There can't be that many people that are really that stupid or gullible as to buy that BS. What a despiccable liar. Freedom of Speech to Obama means lying like a ...............
 

TSR

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Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
Mike said:
Disgusting..............................

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/us-president-speaks-un-about-youtube-video-posted-june-southern-californian
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Did he say anything about "Freedom of Speech". If you don't like it move back to your sandbox.


Moreover, there will always be those that reject human progress – dictators who cling to power, corrupt interests that depend on the status quo; and extremists who fan the flames of hate and division. From Northern Ireland to South Asia; from Africa to the Americas; from the Balkans to the Pacific Rim, we’ve witnessed convulsions that can accompany transitions to a new political order. At times, the conflicts arise along the fault lines of race or tribe; and often they arise from the difficulties of reconciling tradition and faith with the diversity and interdependence of the modern world. In every country, there are those who find different religious beliefs threatening; in every culture, those who love freedom for themselves must ask themselves how much they are willing to tolerate freedom for others.

That is what we saw play out in the last two weeks, as a crude and disgusting video sparked outrage throughout the Muslim world. Now, I have made it clear that the United States government had nothing to do with this video, and I believe its message must be rejected by all who respect our common humanity. It is an insult not only to Muslims, but to America as well – for as the city outside these walls makes clear, we are a country that has welcomed people of every race and every faith. We are home to Muslims who worship across our country. We not only respect the freedom of religion – we have laws that protect individuals from being harmed because of how they look or what they believe. We understand why people take offense to this video because millions of our citizens are among them.

I know there are some who ask why we don’t just ban such a video. The answer is enshrined in our laws: Our Constitution protects the right to practice free speech. Here in the United States, countless publications provoke offense. Like me, the majority of Americans are Christian, and yet we do not ban blasphemy against our most sacred beliefs. As president of our country, and commander-in-chief of our military, I accept that people are going to call me awful things every day, and I will always defend their right to do so. Americans have fought and died around the globe to protect the right of all people to express their views – even views that we profoundly disagree with.

We do so not because we support hateful speech, but because our founders understood that without such protections, the capacity of each individual to express their own views, and practice their own faith, may be threatened. We do so because in a diverse society, efforts to restrict speech can quickly become a tool to silence critics and oppress minorities. We do so because given the power of faith in our lives, and the passion that religious differences can inflame, the strongest weapon against hateful speech is not repression, it is more speech – the voices of tolerance that rally against bigotry and blasphemy, and lift up the values of understanding and mutual respect.

I know that not all countries in this body share this particular understanding of the protection of free speech – we recognize that. But in 2012, at a time when anyone with a cell phone can spread offensive views around the world with the click of a button, the notion that we can control the flow of information is obsolete. The question, then, is how do we respond. And on this we must agree: there is no speech that justifies mindless violence.

There are no words that excuse the killing of innocents. There is no video that justifies an attack on an Embassy. There is no slander that provides an excuse for people to burn a restaurant in Lebanon, or destroy a school in Tunis, or cause death and destruction in Pakistan. In this modern world, with modern technologies, for us to respond in that way to hateful speech empowers any individual who engages in such speech to create chaos around the world. We empower the worst of us, if that’s how we respond.


More broadly, the events of the last two weeks speak to the need for all of us to honestly address the tensions between the West and an Arab World that is moving towards democracy. Now let me be clear: Just as we cannot solve every problem in the world, the United States has not, and will not, seek to dictate the outcome of democratic transitions abroad. We do not expect other nations to agree with us on every issue. Nor do we assume that the violence of the past weeks, or the hateful speech by some individuals, represent the views of the overwhelming majority of Muslims– any more than the views of the people who produced this video represent those of Americans.

However, I do believe that it is the obligation of all leaders, in all countries, to speak out forcefully against violence and extremism. It is time to marginalize those who – even when not directly resorting to violence – use hatred of America, or the West, or Israel as the central organizing principle of politics. For that only gives cover, and sometimes makes an excuse, for those who do resort to violence.


I think he did a very good job of explaining freedom of speech- and hate mongers and why those folks keep promoting hate....


Thanks for posting the "rest of the story" OT. I listened to his speech and thought that a part of it was "inadvertently" left out here on Rnet. Imagine that. :shock:
 
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Anonymous

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gmacbeef said:
Oldtimer said:
okfarmer said:
talk about flopping all around . And since you apparently like the part you highlighted, are you saying you agree with Romney's first take? :D

I highlighted to answer Texasbred's question and show that he did speak on Freedom of Speech...

So Old timer , please explain why that Oblamea & Co. had the 2016 Obama movie removed from u-tube...........isn't that denying freedom of speech??

Do you know Oblmea & Co. removed it?

Most videos are removed from youtube because of legal claims- like copyright infringements...
 

TexasBred

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Traveler said:
His lies about the Middle East blowing up over some obscure 14 minute movie are going to come back and bite him. There can't be that many people that are really that stupid or gullible as to buy that BS. What a despiccable liar. Freedom of Speech to Obama means lying like a ...............

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam.... Barrack Obama speaking to the UN
 

Twister Frost

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TexasBred said:
Traveler said:
His lies about the Middle East blowing up over some obscure 14 minute movie are going to come back and bite him. There can't be that many people that are really that stupid or gullible as to buy that BS. What a despiccable liar. Freedom of Speech to Obama means lying like a ...............

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam.... Barrack Obama speaking to the UN

Full explanation here---yes, from FOX, so some of you may not read it, but it shows the full picture...

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/media-ignore-obama-attack-on-those-who-slander-prophet-islam/
 

Mike

Well-known member
TexasBred said:
Traveler said:
His lies about the Middle East blowing up over some obscure 14 minute movie are going to come back and bite him. There can't be that many people that are really that stupid or gullible as to buy that BS. What a despiccable liar. Freedom of Speech to Obama means lying like a ...............

The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of islam.... Barrack Obama speaking to the UN

This one scary statement. And to be made by a supposed "Christian" makes it even scarier.

"The future must not belong" could mean many things but it would be reasonable to think that it would mean to: Relieve one of his future, in other words to kill him.

Anyway, there is no defending the statement. Period.
 
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