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Buckwheat Cool To XL Pipeline

Mike

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Meanwhile, Warren Buffet rakes in the cash..........................

Obama: Keystone XL pipeline not major jobs creator
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Mar 13, 9:22 PM (ET)

By MATTHEW DALY

WASHINGTON (AP) - Jobs numbers and other benefits touted by supporters of the Keystone XL oil pipeline are probably exaggerated, President Barack Obama told House Republicans on Wednesday, according to lawmakers who attended the closed-door meeting.
But Obama did not rule out a decision to approve the $7 billion pipeline, according to participants.
Obama told Republicans at the Capitol that he's still weighing a decision on the pipeline, which would carry oil from western Canada to refineries along the Texas Gulf Coast.
Rep. Lee Terry, R-Neb., said Obama appeared "conflicted" on the pipeline, saying that many of the promised jobs would be temporary and that much of the oil produced likely would be exported.
But Terry said Obama also indicated that dire environmental consequences predicted by pipeline opponents were exaggerated.
"He said there were no permanent jobs, and that the oil will be put on ships and exported and that the only ones who are going to get wealthy are the Canadians," Terry said.
A White House spokesman said Wednesday no decision on the pipeline has been made.
Terry, who supports the long-delayed pipeline, said he wished Obama's comments were less negative, but said he was still hopeful the project would be approved, a view echoed by Rep. Steve Scalise, R-La., another pipeline supporter.
Scalise, who asked Obama about Keystone at the GOP meeting, said the president "made light" of jobs numbers predicted by supporters, including some who have predicted that the project could create as many as 100,000 direct and indirect jobs.
Obama said the pipeline "is not going to create as many jobs as you (Republicans) hope," Scalise said.
Calgary-based TransCanada, which is proposing the pipeline, initially said it could create at least 20,000 jobs, including 13,000 construction jobs and 7,000 jobs among suppliers and manufacturers. The company later clarified that the figures were for one person per year, based on a two-year construction timetable. The State Department has estimated the project would create about 5,000 to 6,000 jobs.
A draft environmental report released by the State Department this month said there would be no significant environmental impact to most resources along the proposed pipeline route, which goes through Montana, South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas. The report also said other options to get the oil from Canada to Gulf Coast refineries are worse for climate change.
State Department approval is needed because the project crosses a U.S. border.
On at least one aspect of the pipeline, Obama is "flat-out-wrong," Terry said. While some oil is likely to be exported, the total is far less than a majority, Terry said. "That was disturbing to me," he said.
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Whitewing

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At this point, who gives a fat rat's ass how many jobs it will create? What it will do is reduce US dependence on oil imported from those who wish to see Americans dead.

Environmental worries? The country is criss-crossed by a gazillion miles of oil and gas pipelines. I can't think of a more safe way to get oil from point A to point B.
 

Broke Cowboy

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Have a friend leaving on a trade mission to China in a couple of months - he is there to sell more oil and gas to them - potential of actually building a refinery in Canada to ship the finished product off shore.

Canada just cleared the last hurdles to move more uranium to China.

Seems no one else wants our stuff - so it is going elsewhere

Best to all

bc
 

Steve

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Obama appeared "conflicted" on the pipeline, saying that many of the promised jobs would be temporary and that much of the oil produced likely would be exported.

He said there were no permanent jobs, and that the oil will be put on ships and exported and that the only ones who are going to get wealthy are the Canadians,

if the pipeline is built,.. there will be some jobs.. maintenance, monitoring and refiner to name a few..

and any export brings in cash.. both for US and Canada.. is that really bad?

even if ever drop of it went through the pipeline and our refineries was exported it would still create jobs and tax revenue...

so without any " significant environmental impact " the pipeline should be approved..

how many years does it take Obama to make a decision.. ?
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Steve said:
Obama appeared "conflicted" on the pipeline, saying that many of the promised jobs would be temporary and that much of the oil produced likely would be exported.

He said there were no permanent jobs, and that the oil will be put on ships and exported and that the only ones who are going to get wealthy are the Canadians,

if the pipeline is built,.. there will be some jobs.. maintenance, monitoring and refiner to name a few..

and any export brings in cash.. both for US and Canada.. is that really bad?

even if ever drop of it went through the pipeline and our refineries was exported it would still create jobs and tax revenue...

so without any " significant environmental impact " the pipeline should be approved..

how many years does it take Obama to make a decision.. ?

He's never really made one on his own before, :roll:
 

Whitewing

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Steve said:
Obama appeared "conflicted" on the pipeline, saying that many of the promised jobs would be temporary and that much of the oil produced likely would be exported.

He said there were no permanent jobs, and that the oil will be put on ships and exported and that the only ones who are going to get wealthy are the Canadians,

if the pipeline is built,.. there will be some jobs.. maintenance, monitoring and refiner to name a few..

and any export brings in cash.. both for US and Canada.. is that really bad?

even if ever drop of it went through the pipeline and our refineries was exported it would still create jobs and tax revenue...

so without any " significant environmental impact " the pipeline should be approved..

how many years does it take Obama to make a decision.. ?

He's never really made one on his own before, :roll:

Maybe he can try voting present on this one. :???:
 

Faster horses

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Obama should make a visit out here. The highways and interstate
is full of trucks hauling machines, etc to the oilfield. You don't see
much else except cattle trucks. He has no idea what the oilfield entails.
He should be MADE to make a trip to see what's really going on. :???:
 

Traveler

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The XL pipeline could prove detrimental to some Muslims and dictators. Also not popular with the wind and sunshine caucus. Don't hold your breath.
 

Broke Cowboy

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Faster horses said:
Obama should make a visit out here. The highways and interstate is full of trucks hauling machines, etc to the oilfield. You don't see much else except cattle trucks. He has no idea what the oilfield entails.

He should be MADE to make a trip to see what's really going on. :???:

Unless you have five star resorts, pro golf courses, sandy beaches, warm water, a runway long enough for AF 1 and room to park at least two big jets so he and his woman can come at different time - oh, and fancy boys for him to play with when his woman is not looking - well ........

I would be surprised if that prez of yours even knew where "here" is.

BC
 
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