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Paul says he will support the Rep nominee, who ever it is.

http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

The Fluke thing must've backfired...............................
 

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Is anyone surprises with the poll results that say Romney is the GOP's best bet? Romney was picked of the GOP Estblishment and the Media Add to that the millions of dollars in attack ads coming from him and his super PAC so it is any surprise he is the front runner?

What needs to be asked is, is he the best candidate for the job?

Why has the Estblishment push him when he is unable to win over the voters? Look how he did this time in States he won against McCain in 2008, he didn't take as high of percentage as he did the last time WHY? Could it be the Estblishment know they can control him unlike the other candidates and that is why they are pushing him? It sure isn't because he is a vote getter!!

Why is the Media backing him? Could it be they know he is the one candidate Obama can defend his policies against the eaziest?

How can Romney go after Obama on Healthcare? Did the GOP forget Obama will claim they used Romneycare as a blueprint?

How can Romney go after Obama on his Birth Control mandate? Did the GOP forget about this.

As Governor, Romney Did Not Seek To Amend Or Repeal A 2002 Massachusetts Law That “Mirrored” President Obama’s Proposal To Require All Employers To Provide Health Insurance That Covered Birth Control. “Mitt Romney faulted President Barack Obama's original push to require church-affiliated employers to pay for birth control as an ‘assault on religion,’ but as Massachusetts governor, Romney was largely silent about a state law that required virtually the same contraceptive coverage. The Massachusetts law, which essentially mirrored Obama's proposal, was signed by Romney's predecessor in 2002, the year before he took office. Romney did not seek its repeal. …As governor, Romney made no similar effort to amend or repeal the state law, which required employers that purchase insurance plans in Massachusetts to pay for contraceptives.” [Associated Press, 2/11/12]

The Democraps haven't as I pulled this from one of their websites.

Can Romney go after Obama over Wall Street? No as they are all donating to his 2012 campaign fund.

Romney might have the upper hand in job creation but all Obama has to do is find a few ex employees of a business that Bain Capital down sized and parade them around to all the Liberal Bias Media networks and let them do what they do best.

As far as debating Obama on the issues I doubt Romney could do anywhere close to the job Gingrich could do so IF he is the GOP Candidate he better take some lessons or wear an ear bud and allow Gingrich to feed him the info during the debate.

There is a reason the Media and the Estblishment are pushing Romney and the Primary and Caucus voters better figure out what it is before it is too late!!!!!
 

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Tam's right there isn't a nickles worth of difference between romney and obama- if that is our only options we would be better of with repubs in control of both house and senate and obama as pres.- that way they might both cancel each other out! and not totally destroy repub party again. the TEA aprty has made some great strides in reforming the repubs whether they like it or not, lets not waste that with romney.
 

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Lonecowboy said:
Tam's right there isn't a nickles worth of difference between romney and obama- if that is our only options we would be better of with repubs in control of both house and senate and obama as pres.- that way they might both cancel each other out! and not totally destroy repub party again. the TEA aprty has made some great strides in reforming the repubs whether they like it or not, lets not waste that with romney.

If the Republicans want to honestly repeal Obamacare they better concentrate on the House and Senate and make sure they have a VETO PROOF control on both. If Obama gets back in he will veto any chance to repeal and if Romney gets in I'm not convinced he would want the whole bill repealed either since he had the mindset to sign Romneycare into law. He might campaign on repealing it but can you trust what he says when he says it is the Santorum and Gingrich Super Pac ads that are bringing the nasty in fighting into the primary race. When it is his attacking anyone that looks like a threat to their man. :roll:
 

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can you trust what he says when he says it is the Santorum and Gingrich Super Pac ads that are bringing the nasty in fighting into the primary race. When it is his attacking anyone that looks like a threat to their man.

Romney went to the left to be governor of Massachusetts.. and now wants to go to the right to be the nominee for the republican party

I tend to look at a persons' actions and measure that against their words.. and so far compared to Obama he looks like the other side of the same coin

but given a choice between four more with a known socialist far left liberal and a moderate liberal who may govern center right, I take a chance on the unknown actions of a moderate at this point..

the real wild card is who Romney takes as a VP...
 

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Romney's buddies are trying like crazy to get everyone convinced he is the guy, before heading to the states that won't support him.

Santorum would kill him if Gingrich wasn't in the race. And he will anyway in the remaining states.

So many delegates are still undecided. But boy they are going all out right now with Romney is the man campaign.
 

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okfarmer said:
Romney's buddies are trying like crazy to get everyone convinced he is the guy, before heading to the states that won't support him.

Santorum would kill him if Gingrich wasn't in the race. And he will anyway in the remaining states.

So many delegates are still undecided. But boy they are going all out right now with Romney is the man campaign.

EXACTLY the Estblishment and the Media are pushing hard to put Romney out there as the only man for the job not the voters. The question is WHY. What do they know that the voters don't? :?
 
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Tam said:
okfarmer said:
Romney's buddies are trying like crazy to get everyone convinced he is the guy, before heading to the states that won't support him.

Santorum would kill him if Gingrich wasn't in the race. And he will anyway in the remaining states.

So many delegates are still undecided. But boy they are going all out right now with Romney is the man campaign.

EXACTLY the Estblishment and the Media are pushing hard to put Romney out there as the only man for the job not the voters. The question is WHY. What do they know that the voters don't? :?

Because the Establishment Repub Party can see that the Newt and Santorum are unelectable in a general election...It would be just like another Goldwater throatcutting (which is the last time the far right put a candidate into the general election).....And either of those two as the candidate (with some of their out of the mainstream beliefs) could lose the R party several Congressional seats like Goldwater did...

Romney is the only Repub that stands any chance of beating Obama in Nov..
 

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
okfarmer said:
Romney's buddies are trying like crazy to get everyone convinced he is the guy, before heading to the states that won't support him.

Santorum would kill him if Gingrich wasn't in the race. And he will anyway in the remaining states.

So many delegates are still undecided. But boy they are going all out right now with Romney is the man campaign.

EXACTLY the Estblishment and the Media are pushing hard to put Romney out there as the only man for the job not the voters. The question is WHY. What do they know that the voters don't? :?

Because the Establishment Repub Party can see that the Newt and Santorum are unelectable in a general election...It would be just like another Goldwater throatcutting (which is the last time the far right put a candidate into the general election).....And either of those two as the candidate (with some of their out of the mainstream beliefs) could lose the R party several Congressional seats like Goldwater did...

Romney is the only Repub that stands any chance of beating Obama in Nov..

Your terrified the Republican party will become Conservative Republican's again!
 

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
okfarmer said:
Romney's buddies are trying like crazy to get everyone convinced he is the guy, before heading to the states that won't support him.

Santorum would kill him if Gingrich wasn't in the race. And he will anyway in the remaining states.

So many delegates are still undecided. But boy they are going all out right now with Romney is the man campaign.

EXACTLY the Estblishment and the Media are pushing hard to put Romney out there as the only man for the job not the voters. The question is WHY. What do they know that the voters don't? :?

Because the Establishment Repub Party can see that the Newt and Santorum are unelectable in a general election...It would be just like another Goldwater throatcutting (which is the last time the far right put a candidate into the general election).....And either of those two as the candidate (with some of their out of the mainstream beliefs) could lose the R party several Congressional seats like Goldwater did...

Romney is the only Repub that stands any chance of beating Obama in Nov..

Sorry if I don't take anything you have to say as worth hearing Oldtimer. You sir are still under the influence of the Obama's Koolaid.

I happen to believe who ever the Republicans put up has a great chance of beating your Hero that wants people to pay $8 per gallon of gas and wasted more tax money than anyone to push a failing solar energy and electric car industry.

Did you hear Oldtimer Obama invested tax payer money into a car the is worth 6 figures. :shock: Just who do you think will be able to afford a car worth 6 figures? :? and can the tax payer afford to "INVEST" in a car only the uber rich can afford? :roll:

Oh and did you hear the car was turned over to Consumer Report to be tested and rated and it broke down before they could even test it. What makes me think the report will not be an A rating Oldtimer? :lol: :lol:

Yep Biden got his plant in Delaware and it makes very expensive great looking YARD ORNAMENTS. :wink: :lol:

Obama needs to start vetting these companies he is handing out tax payer money to, better than just looking who they are donating Campaign funds to. :x
 
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Lonecowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
EXACTLY the Estblishment and the Media are pushing hard to put Romney out there as the only man for the job not the voters. The question is WHY. What do they know that the voters don't? :?

Because the Establishment Repub Party can see that the Newt and Santorum are unelectable in a general election...It would be just like another Goldwater throatcutting (which is the last time the far right put a candidate into the general election).....And either of those two as the candidate (with some of their out of the mainstream beliefs) could lose the R party several Congressional seats like Goldwater did...

Romney is the only Repub that stands any chance of beating Obama in Nov..

Your terrified the Republican party will become Conservative Republican's again!

With the direction all the endorsements are going- it appears that those in office don't want to run an election with either the Newt or Santorum....

Many of these old boys remember the Goldwater fiasco- when LBJ won with the biggest vote majority in election history .....


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RECENT UPDATES — Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.), Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio), Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) — (see note at bottom of page), Rep. Dan Burton (R-Ind.), Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.), Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.), Rep. Billy Long (R-Mo.), Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.), Rep. David Rivera (R-Fla.), Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.), Rep. Dan Benishek (R-Mich.), Rep. Pete Olson (R-Texas)


NOTE — Endorsements in 2008 only noted if the member was serving in Congress at that time



Mitt Romney (80)

Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.)
Sen. Roy Blunt (R-Mo.)
Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.)
Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) (endorsed Sen. John McCain in 2008)
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Sen. John Hoeven (R-N.D.)
Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.)
Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) (the 2008 GOP nominee)
Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio)
Sen. Jim Risch (R-Idaho)
Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Rep. Sandy Adams (R-Fla.)
Rep. Rodney Alexander (R-La.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Mark Amodei (R-Nev.)
Rep. Charles Bass (R-N.H.)
Rep. Dan Benishek (R-Mich.) (Initially endorsed Herman Cain; endorsed Romney on Jan. 20)
Rep. Judy Biggert (R-Ill.) (endorsed former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in 2008)
Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-Calif.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Rob Bishop (R-Utah) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.)
Rep. Mary Bono Mack (R-Calif.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)

Rep. Ken Calvert (R-Calif.)
Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. John Campbell (R-Calif.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.)

Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah)
Rep. Howard Coble (R-N.C.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas) (endorsed Romney in 2008) (Initially backed Perry in 2012)

Rep. Ander Crenshaw (R-Fla.)
 (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Rep. Robert Dold (R-Ill.)
Rep. John Duncan (R-Tenn.) (endorsed ex-Sen. Fred Thompson (R-Tenn.) in 2008)
Rep. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-N.C.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Jim Gerlach (R-Pa.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)
Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Tim Griffin (R-Ark.)
Rep. Michael Grimm (R-N.Y.)
Rep. Nan Hayworth (R-N.Y.)
Rep. Joe Heck (R-Nev.)
Rep. Wally Herger (R-Calif.)
 (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.)
Rep. Bill Huizenga (R-Mich.)
Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Rep. Leonard Lance (R-N.J.)
Rep. Steven LaTourette (R-Ohio) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Rep. Jerry Lewis (R-Calif.) (endorsed Giuliani in 2008)
Rep. Billy Long (R-Mo.)
Rep. Cynthia Lummis (R-Wyo.)
Rep. Connie Mack (R-Fla.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Thaddeus McCotter (R-Mich.) (endorsed Thompson in 2008; dropped White House bid in September)
Rep. Patrick McHenry (R-N.C.)
Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.)
 (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-Wash.)
Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.)
Rep. Jeff Miller (R-Fla.) (endorsed Thompson and later McCain in 2008)
Rep. Pete Olson (R-Texas)
Rep. Erik Paulsen (R-Minn.)
Rep. Jim Renacci (R-Ohio)
Rep. Phil Roe (R-Tenn.)
Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ky.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.)
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Calif.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Todd Rokita (R-Ind.)
Rep. Tom Rooney (R-Fla.)

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Rep. Aaron Schock (R-Ill.)
Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio)
Rep. Fred Upton (R-Mich.) (endorsed McCain in 2008)
Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.)
Rep. Greg Walden (R-Ore.)
Rep. Ed Whitfield (R-Ky.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Steve Womack (R-Ark.)






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Newt Gingrich (11)

Rep. Joe Barton (R-Texas)
Rep. Michael Burgess (R-Texas)
Rep. Trent Franks (R-Ariz.) (endorsed Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.) in 2008 and initially backed Bachmann in 2012)
Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.)
Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Tom Price (R-Ga.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) (endorsed Romney in 2008)
Rep. David Rivera (R-Fla.)
Rep. Austin Scott (R-Ga.)
Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) (endorsed Thompson, and later, Romney, in 2008)



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Ron Paul (3)

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)
Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.)
Rep. Walter Jones (R-N.C.)



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Rick Santorum (3)

Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.)
Rep. Tom Marino (R-Pa.)
Rep. Glenn Thompson (R-Pa.)
 

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
okfarmer said:
Romney's buddies are trying like crazy to get everyone convinced he is the guy, before heading to the states that won't support him.

Santorum would kill him if Gingrich wasn't in the race. And he will anyway in the remaining states.

So many delegates are still undecided. But boy they are going all out right now with Romney is the man campaign.

EXACTLY the Estblishment and the Media are pushing hard to put Romney out there as the only man for the job not the voters. The question is WHY. What do they know that the voters don't? :?

Because the Establishment Repub Party can see that the Newt and Santorum are unelectable in a general election...It would be just like another Goldwater throatcutting (which is the last time the far right put a candidate into the general election).....And either of those two as the candidate (with some of their out of the mainstream beliefs) could lose the R party several Congressional seats like Goldwater did...

Romney is the only Repub that stands any chance of beating Obama in Nov..

I heard that same argument against Reagan for the establishment guy back in 76'...

how did that work out... :D didn't Reagan later win by a landslide and get elected,.. two terms and is still respected... and the other guys?

but since history seems to allude you..

let me help...

Former Governor Ronald Reagan was the early odds-on favorite to win his party's nomination for president after nearly beating incumbent President Gerald Ford just four years earlier.

since Goldwater, there was Ford.. hand picked establishment guy...

lost to Carter,

then there was Bush... another establishment pick... a good VP.. and a one term President.. Lost to Clinton,

then there was McCain .. establishment favorite.. lost to Obama

mediocre comes to mind when considering the establishment choices of Ford, Bush SR, McCain, and Romney..

but then I guess in most minds right now.. a mediocre republican is better then a lousy liberal incumbent..
 

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