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Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures

Steve

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wapoobamabudget1.jpg


both spent like drunken sailors.. but Obama and the democratic controlled congress.. set new lows on how much can be spent!
 

nonothing

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Steve said:
wapoobamabudget1.jpg


both spent like drunken sailors.. but Obama and the democratic controlled congress.. set new lows on how much can be spent!

honestly Steve you cant possibly call what bush left behind a positive .....Obama had two chioces sit and do nothing or try something to stimulate some kind of growth..I find it hard to believe that you look for excuses for bush when there is video of GW giving fannymae the ability to drown home onwers in debt long before obama came into power.......GW chose to go to war in Iraq,even though he himself said that bin laden was in afghanistan...Why do you conservatives put your head in the sand when it comes to GW,but you pound obama for everything....GW left a war, a debt filled country,empty coffers and let a once strong world trading dollar fall to the eruo...I am not saying Obama is making huge strides but what did he have to work with......honestly steve what positives if any did obama take over from the GW years..The demss taking over the senate only hand cuffed GW and slowed him down nothing more....
 

Steve

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The dem's taking over the senate only hand cuffed GW and slowed him down nothing more....


Bush spent.. and the republicans spent at obscene levels.. but they are tight fisted scrooges compared to the dems under obama


if you look at the 07 budget compared to the 08 you can see how the dem's congress/senate actually increased the spending/deficit. doubled it in fact..

but to go from 400 billion to over 16 billion is a bit more the doubling the debt..
 

nonothing

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Steve said:
The dem's taking over the senate only hand cuffed GW and slowed him down nothing more....


Bush spent.. and the republicans spent at obscene levels.. but they are tight fisted scrooges compared to the dems under obama


if you look at the 07 budget compared to the 08 you can see how the dem's congress/senate actually increased the spending/deficit. doubled it in fact..

but to go from 400 billion to over 16 billion is a bit more the doubling the debt..

like i said steve, GW left Obama two chioces .one to do nothing or two, try something ......he tried something and you may not of agreed with the approach he chose but he really only had two ways to go....had he done nothing and the country crumbled ,you be on him for that...It is a huge mess created by GW or Cheney if you perfere..
 

Faster horses

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nono, you said, "bush when there is video of GW giving fannymae the ability to drown home onwers in debt long before obama came into power".
Can you provide that video? It is common knowledge that Clinton
pushed for Fannymae to loan money for homes to people THAT COULD
NOT PAY IT BACK. Bush and McCain tried to regulate FM, but
the Dem's called them racists for doing so.
 

nonothing

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Faster horses said:
nono, you said, "bush when there is video of GW giving fannymae the ability to drown home onwers in debt long before obama came into power".
Can you provide that video? It is common knowledge that Clinton
pushed for Fannymae to loan money for homes to people THAT COULD
NOT PAY IT BACK. Bush and McCain tried to regulate FM, but
the Dem's called them racists for doing so.


here ya go and make sure you listen till the end.....you will hear all the good news about freddy and fannie ..or just go to the 4 minute mark in the video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNqQx7sjoS8
 

Steve

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like i said steve, GW left Obama two chioces .one to do nothing or two, try something

two choices.. continue spending as Bush spent, or wipe out our country with massive obscene spending.. ???

actually Obama wasn't limited in his options.. he could have done many things to change the course of the economy..
(including cutting spending, a proven approach)

during the campaign Obama criticized Bush and spending.. suggested a measured approach to cut spending.

soon after being elected he passed a "bloated stimulus", packed full of payoffs.. and a budget packed full of earmarks..

anyone looking at the amount spent.. it is hard to defend.. it is obscene..

and is crippling our "main street" economy..
 

Faster horses

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Nono, I listened to yours. Would you listen to this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related

Please don't forget how much FannyMae and FreddieMac gave
Obama's campaign.
 

jingo2

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Faster horses said:
Nono, I listened to yours. Would you listen to this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related

Please don't forget how much FannyMae and FreddieMac gave
Obama's campaign.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

He got ya didn't he????
 

Faster horses

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Not a bit.
But isn't it grand that she's polite and can carry on a civil discussion and
present what she believes in? So can I.

Sorry, I didn't make your day.
 

hopalong

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jingo2 said:
Faster horses said:
Nono, I listened to yours. Would you listen to this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related

Please don't forget how much FannyMae and FreddieMac gave
Obama's campaign.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

He got ya didn't he????

Even if he did get FH thast is something you could never do, not now not when you were lulu, kolo. or now as jingo :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

jingo2

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hopalong said:
jingo2 said:
Faster horses said:
Nono, I listened to yours. Would you listen to this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&feature=related

Please don't forget how much FannyMae and FreddieMac gave
Obama's campaign.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

He got ya didn't he????

Even if he did get FH thast is something you could never do, not now not when you were lulu, kolo. or now as jingo :wink: :wink: :wink:

I heard stories that you were a bit on the ' nervous', yappy dog side of things.......and I see they were right.

You can imagine I'm your girlfriend all you want....but to no avail
 

hopalong

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jingo2 said:
hopalong said:
jingo2 said:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

He got ya didn't he????

Even if he did get FH thast is something you could never do, not now not when you were lulu, kolo. or now as jingo :wink: :wink: :wink:

I heard stories that you were a bit on the ' nervous', yappy dog side of things.......and I see they were right.

You can imagine I'm your girlfriend all you want....but to no avail

LOL not even when you are in your kolo personna
:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
 

jingo2

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hopalong said:
jingo2 said:
hopalong said:
Even if he did get FH thast is something you could never do, not now not when you were lulu, kolo. or now as jingo :wink: :wink: :wink:

I heard stories that you were a bit on the ' nervous', yappy dog side of things.......and I see they were right.

You can imagine I'm your girlfriend all you want....but to no avail

LOL not even when you are in your kolo personna
:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

Whatever.............................. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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The following quotes are from the New York Times five years ago. Republicans proposed increased oversight and regulation of Fannie and Freddie, but Democrats fought it.

“The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago. Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry. The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios.” Democrats pushed back. “Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing”.

“These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis”, said Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. “The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.”

Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed. “I don’t see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,” Mr. Watt said.
 

nonothing

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all i did was show in 2002 that bush started the ball rolling with fanny and freddy..You people just want to blame obama for everything...i guess even with proof you would rather blame it all on obama..its hard to debate like that....
 
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nonothing said:
all i did was show in 2002 that bush started the ball rolling with fanny and freddy..You people just want to blame obama for everything...i guess even with proof you would rather blame it all on obama..its hard to debate like that....

Don't let it bother you nonothing-- I posted on here multiple times article after article showing where GW fasttracked the Fanny and Freddy loans to everyone (votes)- and made it possible for Bank/Lending brokers to profiteer from folks that had terrible credit (more votes)-- including the fact he dropped the requirement (a law) that they check for citizenship/legal residency- that allowed millions of illegal immigrants to get loans (for his buddy Vincente Fox)- many under assumed ID's- and which all allowed them to just skip out when the sh*t hit the fan.... Which then brought about the Bush Bailouts to keep the Bush Bust from being 10 times worse than it was.... :(

But- you will never get any of these cultists to believe their leadership blindly and stumblefootedly did this to them ....
 
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