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Bush Never Lied About WMD's

Mike

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http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2015/05/26/bob-woodward-bush-didnt-lie-to-start-iraq-war

It's a brutal axe but, according to Woodward, one that is itself based on an untruth. An argument could certainly and persuasively be made, he told moderator Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday," that the Iraq War was a mistake, but "there was no lying in this that I could find."
 

Brad S

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First and foremost, desert storm was to stop a madman from pillaging the Mideast and seizing a huge percentage of the known oil supply - not to mention our treaties with Kuwait.

Part of the cease fire agreement was Iraq had to allow wmd inspectors. When he violated the cease fire agreement and threw inspectors out and ignored a dozen UN resolutions - hostilities resumed.

I'm curious about these anti war guys. So they would have let Iraq conquer Kuwait and Saudi Arabia? Really Donald? Or let Iraq violate cease fire agreement ? Really Donald? I think a good border collie could beat trump at chess but lose to trump at name calling
 

Faster horses

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I'm fed up with Trump. One would think after Obama that the public would be more careful of who they are following. It seems not.
When asked about his record, he just gets on the fight. If your kid came to the table saying words that Trump has used, that kid should be in big trouble. So should Trump. Isn't anyone paying attention?
 

Brad S

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You're right FH, voters should be more scrutinous after Barry. I think his supporters are convinced he's an outsider and that's more important than anything else.
 

Faster horses

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Brad S said:
You're right FH, voters should be more scrutinous after Barry. I think his supporters are convinced he's an outsider and that's more important than anything else.

That is for sure the deal. It can't be anything else. Our daughter is a barber and she hears that all day long.
 

backhoeboogie

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Trump is not a career politician. He is not practiced in telling you what you want to hear. He may even tell someone their ugly baby is ugly.
 

Traveler

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This election has been baffling. Cruze would be my first choice, but I'm supporting anyone with an R by their name. My aging parents, mother seldom misses church, and some younger friends who are strong Christians, support Trump. They say they're not looking for another minister, and think that Trump is the only one who is going to save this country, and stop the invasion from Mexico and the Middle East. Whatever else he says doesn't matter. Maybe they're right. IDK.
 

Faster horses

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Interesting Traveler.
How do they feel about Trump supporting Planned Parenthood?
Cruz stood for defunding Planned Parenthood. Why should the taxpayers pay for abortion? I don't think people are thinking
far enough past "Trump is not a politician". He has taken land away from individual land owners in Scotland to build golf courses.
That hasn't been brought up yet by the media, but I bet it will, should he get the nomination.

I fear Trump is a grandstander.

I hope if he gets the nomination and becomes president, we don't jump from the frying pan into the fire. Like you "IDK."
 

Traveler

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Faster horses said:
Interesting Traveler.
How do they feel about Trump supporting Planned Parenthood?
Cruz stood for defunding Planned Parenthood. Why should the taxpayers pay for abortion? I don't think people are thinking
far enough past "Trump is not a politician". He has taken land away from individual land owners in Scotland to build golf courses.
That hasn't been brought up yet by the media, but I bet it will, should he get the nomination.

I fear Trump is a grandstander.

I hope if he gets the nomination and becomes president, we don't jump from the frying pan into the fire. Like you "IDK."
I think many have stopped paying attention to the play by play coverage of the campaign. Trump's website, naturally, doesn't mention Planned Parenthood, but at least he claims to have evolved to being Pro-Life. I think he's doing a bit of playing to both sides of the aisle with the goal of enhancing his electability in a general election. I do wonder if the media will treat a Trump and Clinton race the same as they treat other Republican verses Democrat races. Will Trump's displeasure with Fox News win him any brownie points with the other networks? Will Hillary's untrustworthiness and unlikeable deserved image, even with many on the left, and especially young voters, factor in with the network's coverage? Or will they go all predictably gaga over Hillary, as with any Democrat candidate, largely ignoring her dirt? Will the ongoing FBI investigation be the wild card, even after she likely receives the majority of delegates?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-releases/donald-j.-trump-for-president-inc.-oped-the-culture-of-life
 

loomixguy

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No more. Against my better judgment, I voted for Bush 41 (2nd term), Dole, McCain, and Romney. Basically pi$$ed my vote away, voting for the "R". Ain't going to happen again. Should Trump become the eventual nominee, he's gonna have to talk real clear and fast to get me to change my mind. Otherwise, I'll write in Cruz.

As far as the "preaching" goes, I defer to Ronaldus Magnus, who said that if we stop being a nation under God, we'll become a nation gone under. Well, kiddies, we're almost there. Faith, the Constitution, and the American spirit are needed for this country to thrive & prosper. We've had seven years of Allah (Satan), pi$$ing on the Constitution, and becoming totally dependent on welfare & subsidies....and guess what? We're nowhere close to thriving. Think about it.
 

Faster horses

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loomixguy said:
No more. Against my better judgment, I voted for Bush 41 (2nd term), Dole, McCain, and Romney. Basically pi$$ed my vote away, voting for the "R". Ain't going to happen again. Should Trump become the eventual nominee, he's gonna have to talk real clear and fast to get me to change my mind. Otherwise, I'll write in Cruz.

As far as the "preaching" goes, I defer to Ronaldus Magnus, who said that if we stop being a nation under God, we'll become a nation gone under. Well, kiddies, we're almost there. Faith, the Constitution, and the American spirit are needed for this country to thrive & prosper. We've had seven years of Allah (Satan), pi$$ing on the Constitution, and becoming totally dependent on welfare & subsidies....and guess what? We're nowhere close to thriving. Think about it.


:clap: :nod:
 

Brad S

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I understand the temptation to write in your real favorite candidate, but you know your write in is the same as voting for Clinton. Are you done throwing up yet? Even a bad R is better than a Clinton. The scalea replacement should drive that point home.
 

loomixguy

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I understand totally....only with Trump you're not getting a bad R, you're voting for another D. Like I said, if he becomes the nominee, he's really gonna have to do some talking to win me over. Killary should be under indictment by then, anyway. Just can't bring myself to support or vote for another RINO. Remember, the Donald bankrolled Killary...so who's to say that a vote for the Donald ISN'T a vote for Killary

This is becoming more Machiavellian than Mike's general displeasure with blacks, but his unapologizing man love for Cam Newton.
 

Traveler

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I see Rubio just got a bunch of endorsements from the Bush camp, like Bob Dole, which really didn't do Jeb much good, if you think about it.
 

mrj

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Pretty much the same here.......I wanted to like Trump, but he sure isn't likeable.........then the point others have made in media that he sets up these big projects, and too often after he takes his money off the top, they go into bankruptcy. And using eminent domain to take property is just way too often done for profiteers such as Trump rather than the true government need for hiways and such. OTOH, there are times individual land holders try to hold up projects such as the Keystone Pipelines for their own petty reasons, and then demonize eminent domain procedures. Sure is hard to sort out the real jerks from the 'born again' for their own gain jerks!

Which reminds me, Trump sure has a pathetic record for the way he has treated women. Looks he considers them more as 'play pretties' than people with a brain and business sense. Or did......before he got the 'religion' of politics!

I do like Cruz for his history and willingness to stand up for the Constitution and good government.

mrj
 

Faster horses

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FOX is certainly bias toward Rubio. I'm sick of it. Whatever happened to 'Fair and Balanced?' Cruz is getting the shaft and he is the ONE who should be president, based on his record. People don't like 'the establishment' and yet that is who Rubio is.....Cruz, from what I have learned, seems to be his own man, not like Rubio. Mark Levin talks about Rubio lying....flat out laying to us OR lying on Univision PLUS his actions in the Gang of Eight is deplorable. He tries to deny it now, but not only was he supportive, he was one of the originators who made the bill.
 

Steve

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FOX is certainly bias ed

I used to like watching the five.. but between the one who is so full of herself and Eric Bolling and his defending trump every step of the way is a bit to much to take.


Trump may be what our nation needs after obama .. economic strength. world strength and a person to not let Us get shoved around..

but I am not a Trump supporter.. His supporters should realize that, like usual the leftest media will turn from being in awe to finding every speck of dirt on Trump that they can air 24- 7.
 

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