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But there's good news

Disagreeable

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We can all celebrate. In only six months (maybe) they expect to have Iraq's oil production back to pre war levels. Isn't that wonderful? Four years, no telling how many $billions and we'll have the same production as before the war. Maybe. Link below.

"The U.S. Secretary of Energy says it may take about six months to restore Iraq's oil output to pre-war levels of 2.5 million barrels a day.

Samuel Bodman made the comments in Baghdad Tuesday, where he called Iraqi estimates that they could boost production to three million barrels a day "optimistic."



"optimistic" You think? :roll:

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-07-18-voa49.cfm
 

Murgen

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I guess they've had more urgent objectives. Makes you wonder if the critics are right, when they say "the US went over for the OIL"
 

Judith

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Well considering the war is about "terrorists" I really don't think oil is the big issue. Face it they have absolutely nothing else to sell us.

If the US takes oil away they have absolutely nothing. If Bush wanted oil that bad he would have just taken it. Fairly good chance they could hit it with a nuke, it's alot of land pretty hard to miss. I think Bush is the kind of guy who would push the button to protect our freedom.

Until the terrorists see us as people and not infidels they will keep coming. You cannot talk sense into people who train there children to kill at the ripe ole age of 7. They have been killing for 1000 years. The tree huggers seem to think that if we talk nice and teach them our ways there will be a change. They do not want our ways. Why don't people get that..... I don't like war, but let me tell you I would kill to keep my rights and my child safe. I will not go back to where women are property and I have no rights. (Judith jumps off soapbox as there is no happy medium or middle ground in this argument)
 

kolanuraven

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Maybe then the oil can get sold....pay us back for all our expenses going there......and help out with cheaper gas prices.

Bush would make TONS more $$$$$$$ then..



Ahhhhh...in a perfect world!!!
 

Murgen

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Ahhhhh...in a perfect world!!!

No such thing. That's why we vote for a conservative government!

A government willing to deal with the problems of the world and not just "live' with them for 4 or 8 years, while fornicating in the White House.

"Ah, don't bug me right now, with the world's problems, this is getting rid of so much tension, thanks, Monica!"[/quote]
 

Cal

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Judith said:
Well considering the war is about "terrorists" I really don't think oil is the big issue. Face it they have absolutely nothing else to sell us.

If the US takes oil away they have absolutely nothing. If Bush wanted oil that bad he would have just taken it. Fairly good chance they could hit it with a nuke, it's alot of land pretty hard to miss. I think Bush is the kind of guy who would push the button to protect our freedom.

Until the terrorists see us as people and not infidels they will keep coming. You cannot talk sense into people who train there children to kill at the ripe ole age of 7. They have been killing for 1000 years. The tree huggers seem to think that if we talk nice and teach them our ways there will be a change. They do not want our ways. Why don't people get that..... I don't like war, but let me tell you I would kill to keep my rights and my child safe. I will not go back to where women are property and I have no rights. (Judith jumps off soapbox as there is no happy medium or middle ground in this argument)
Very good Judith! :clap: :clap:
 

kolanuraven

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Murgen....SURELY you dont think that Clinton was THE ONLY Prez to ' git some' while in office from someone OTHER than his spouse???
 

Disagreeable

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Judith said:
Well considering the war is about "terrorists" I really don't think oil is the big issue. Face it they have absolutely nothing else to sell us.

You can think what you want, but the Iraqi war is not about terrorists. It's about Bush wanting to get Saddam.

If the US takes oil away they have absolutely nothing. If Bush wanted oil that bad he would have just taken it. Fairly good chance they could hit it with a nuke, it's alot of land pretty hard to miss. I think Bush is the kind of guy who would push the button to protect our freedom.

Too funny. Do you seriously think the US oil industry would allow the Bush Admistration to nuke middle eastern oil reserves? I think Bush is the kind of guy to push the button to save his ego. He named Iraq, Iran and North Korea as an Axis of Evil. Which one did he choose to attack? The only one without a nuke program! What does that tell you?

Until the terrorists see us as people and not infidels they will keep coming. You cannot talk sense into people who train there children to kill at the ripe ole age of 7. They have been killing for 1000 years. The tree huggers seem to think that if we talk nice and teach them our ways there will be a change. They do not want our ways. Why don't people get that..... I don't like war, but let me tell you I would kill to keep my rights and my child safe. I will not go back to where women are property and I have no rights. (Judith jumps off soapbox as there is no happy medium or middle ground in this argument)

And until people on this board see muslims as people and not terrorists, they will keep coming. We can't kill everyone who hates America. The more people we kill, the more hate us. Education and respect for other people's views and customs are keys to protecting this country. And along with that Bush should have been protecting our southern borders, but nooooo. He didn't want to stop the flow of cheap labor for his big business buddies.

You're right about them killing each other for 1,000 years. For this Administration to think they could just waltz in there and everyone would love each other and be best pals shows what a bunch of incompetents we have in charge of this country.
 

Red Robin

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Disagreeable said:
[And until people on this board see muslims as people and not terrorists, they will keep coming. We can't kill everyone who hates America. The more people we kill, the more hate us. Education and respect for other people's views and customs are keys to protecting this country.
No doubt if your statement is true , Israel's problem all along with the radical rabid muslim world (which is almost all muslims) has been lack of funding for education. You may be on to something. If Israel had spent the effort that the muslim nations have trying to brain wash their little kids in school by telling them to hate Jews or Americans, I guess their army would be bigger and it might take less time to blow those terrorist into their next life . You and your kind understand very little about anything. Education and respect for people blowing your blooming world trade center towers down? Education and respect for those swearing an oath to wipe America off the planet? Education....respect.....I think not. Gunpowder and hot lead is the remedy.
 

memanpa

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oh darn and i thought the good news was DIS was going bye bye!!
oh well we really need her type around to make us all realize that the DIS contented are still around!
and how dumb SOME of them are
 

Cal

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The fact that we have been enlightened by Disagreeable to the fact that the people on this board and our opinions are responsible for the muslim terrorist activity in general is truly useful information. :roll: And pretty much right on par with what we are usually fed by Disagreeable.
 

kolanuraven

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Disagreeable is RIGHT on one point....not all Muslims are terrorists!!

There is a trend to lump people together...it's not fair nor right.

There are just as many crazy zealots that are Baptist, Methodist or for that fact Buddist.

Nuts and fools come in all denominations!!
 

Red Robin

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kolanuraven said:
There are just as many crazy zealots that are Baptist, Methodist or for that fact Buddist.
How many hospitals close to you are Muslim general? Or how many feed the children muslim organizations do you know of. Or how many baptist terrorists do you know of ? How about methodist car bombers.... Some times Kola , I don't know about you either. Think before you speak. You say it's not fair to lump people together , then you turn around and lump all religions together. What's up with that? You say we all have the same number of zealots. No one said anything about how many zealots muslims have. We were commenting on terrorist .
 

kolanuraven

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RR: Timothy McVeigh professed the Baptist faith....... explain that one then if he's not a terrorists....who is???

I've spent a LOT of time in Muslim countries.....and they are WONDERFUL people on the whole. Have you ever spent time in the home of a Muslim family.....in their country.....in their mosque???? If not it would be a great education for you.

RR.....fools are everywhere!!!!
 

Red Robin

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The columbine killers were strong believers in evolution. One had a shirt on that said something about natural selection. Does that also then include evolutionists in the group as terrorists. I think we can all surely agree that muslims in a large majority are terrorists. Have you not seen the pictures where scores and hundreds and thousands are chanting death to America? Traveling abroad with a closed mind might not be as enlightening as simply reading the paper or looking at the internet objectivly. Everyone can tell a very large segment of the muslim faith, prehaps a majority, would love to see catastrophic things happen to Israel and America.
 

IL Rancher

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The muslims I grew up around were a bit different than the westerners I grew up around who were a bit different than the greeks who were a bit different than the asians and the hindus. there were probably more difference within the groups than between the groups to be quiet honest. I spent lots of time with them, they were all good friends.

However, the first generation/college visa muslims I met at NU were an entirely different sort of cat... They saw things in this world in a very different matter than people from other cultures did.. IT was a real eye openor.. None were terrorists and none supported those methods but there few on the US governments history in the Mideast, and Europes history was something that we weren't taught about in my history classes.. It was very interesting.. Not nearly as interesting as my Junior year when I lived with an African American roomate during the OJ trial... Oh god, that was fun :lol: :shock: :eek: :p
 

kolanuraven

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First and formost off you avoided my questions to you?

2nd...Columbine has NOTHING to do with this conversation.

3rd.... in your world you would think that evolutionists are terrorists...

4th.... No we can not agree that Muslims as a whole are terrorists...that is a racially based statement that is WRONG. Thats equal to saying that all people who live in Arkansas ALWAYS marry their first cousin.

5th...and from your reading of papers...is it not equal to say that a large percentage of the world would love nothing better to have horrible things happen to people of the Muslim faith???? Is that not just as bad?

6th....You're gonna see your world FLAT, no matter what anyone else has to offer. What ever makes you happy.
 

nonothing

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kolanuraven said:
First and formost off you avoided my questions to you?

2nd...Columbine has NOTHING to do with this conversation.

3rd.... in your world you would think that evolutionists are terrorists...

4th.... No we can not agree that Muslims as a whole are terrorists...that is a racially based statement that is WRONG. Thats equal to saying that all people who live in Arkansas ALWAYS marry their first cousin.

5th...and from your reading of papers...is it not equal to say that a large percentage of the world would love nothing better to have horrible things happen to people of the Muslim faith???? Is that not just as bad?

6th....You're gonna see your world FLAT, no matter what anyone else has to offer. What ever makes you happy.



Finially some one who see the world picture.....I guess the American icon Muhammad Ali,,,should be asked to leave your country....If your gonna lump all in as the same......Oh this just out......All bald people are nazi suporting skin heads.....LOL.


Thank You KOL for hopefully setting some straight,and maybe you will get that answer to your question,since he/she has had time to think on it now. :clap: :clap: :clap:
 
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