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Ca student protest

Steve

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displaying the flag upside down has been considered recently to be freedom of speech and a sign of protest.. even if I disagree., I feel they are an action.. and not speech.. and a disrespectful action towards our country, even if not meant that way.


one comment I do have .. two wrongs do not make it right... both the actions of the students and your actions on this issue are wrong..
 
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Steve said:
displaying the flag upside down has been considered recently to be freedom of speech and a sign of protest.. even if I disagree., I feel they are an action.. and not speech.. and a disrespectful action towards our country, even if not meant that way.


one comment I do have .. two wrongs do not make it right... both the actions of the students and your actions on this issue are wrong..


AMEN!!!!
 

MsSage

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So showing what is not on the news is wrong? Or is it showing where the mexican flag above the US flag on American soil is worng? Or asking why its not on the news is wrong?
Or is it my avator and not the issue at all?
 
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MsSage said:
So showing what is not on the news is wrong? Or is it showing where the mexican flag above the US flag on American soil is worng? Or asking why its not on the news is wrong?
Or is it my avator and not the issue at all?

To me- you, the Mexican extremists, and the Teabaggers are all showing disrespect for the flag when they present it in that political manner that is counter to US Flag Etiquette....

And I believe it loses the Teabag movement much of its credibility when they match the extremist actions of groups like LaRaza-- which was shown when it led to a confrontation between the Mayor ( a retired military officer) and the Teabaggers flying an upside down flag in Great Falls when he was offended by the disrespect they were showing the flag...
 

Steve

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MsSage said:
So showing what is not on the news is wrong? Or is it showing where the mexican flag above the US flag on American soil is worng? Or asking why its not on the news is wrong?
Or is it my avator and not the issue at all?

flying our flag below the Mexican flag was wrong.

stealing the California flag was wrong.

flying our flag upside down was wrong.

the news not covering the issue was wrong.

and your avatar showing the flag inverted is wrong.
 

Steve

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other examples.
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Published flag etiquette states the stars should always be displayed in the upper left corner.
 

jodywy

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Flying the flag upside down is a distress signal . Got a few cards from service men when my son was killed , every one had the flag stamp upside down
 

nonothing

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Does anyone know the origin of the country flag?.......was it for ships to know who was approaching from a distant during the early merchant/pirate days....?.It would be nice to know if anyone has the answer ,i would enjoy reading it.ty.....
 

jigs

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to me it is not about flag etiquite. it is about conforming, melting, and assimilating into society.

be proud of your heritage, continue your customs, but ADD to society. this national pride is fine but if you want to live in AMERICA, then you better support AMERICA.

anyone swapping out the Stars and Stripes for the Mex flag is open for target practice. I would not hesitate to putting a round or two into a person doing that.
 

Steve

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nonothing said:
Does anyone know the origin of the country flag?.......was it for ships to know who was approaching from a distant during the early merchant/pirate days....?.It would be nice to know if anyone has the answer ,i would enjoy reading it.ty.....

Wikipedia has a good article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States


The first flags were used to assist military coordination on battlefields, The usage of flags spread from India and China, where they were almost certainly invented,

The Persians used Derafsh Kaviani flag, at the time of Achaemenian dynasty at 550–330 B.C. Afterwards it was used in different look by the late Sassanid era (224–651). It was also representative of the Sassanid state—Ērānshāhr, the "Kingdom of Iran"—and may so be considered to have been the first "national flag"

During the Middle Ages, flags were used for a variety of purposes including: identification of members of nobility, guilds, cities, religious worship, and for use during battles. In battle, flags were used by military companies for identification on the field and relaying of strategic instructions. Though not always, flags could identify individual leaders: in Europe, monarchs and knights; in Japan, the samurai; in China, the generals under the imperial army; and in Mexico, the Aztec alliances.

From the era of sailing vessels onwards, it has been customary (and later a legal requirement) for ships to carry flags designating their nationality;[2] these flags eventually evolved into the national flags and maritime flags of today. Flags also became the preferred means of communications at sea,

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Steve

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jigs said:
to me it is not about flag etiquite. it is about conforming, melting, and assimilating into society.

be proud of your heritage, continue your customs, but ADD to society. this national pride is fine but if you want to live in AMERICA, then you better support AMERICA.

anyone swapping out the Stars and Stripes for the Mex flag is open for target practice. I would not hesitate to putting a round or two into a person doing that.

seems our National pride was ignored while a unimportant mexican holiday stomped on our values..
 

Steve

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jodywy said:
Flying the flag upside down is a distress signal . Got a few cards from service men when my son was killed , every one had the flag stamp upside down

Most Americans understand the usage and can see when it was meant as a respectful concern, such as Sage's and a deeper feeling of loss as those who knew your son felt, and used it as a symbol to show that our country mourns the loss of every soldier. and while it might not fit the strict flag etiquette it is meant in a very respectful manner.
 

nonothing

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Steve said:
nonothing said:
Does anyone know the origin of the country flag?.......was it for ships to know who was approaching from a distant during the early merchant/pirate days....?.It would be nice to know if anyone has the answer ,i would enjoy reading it.ty.....

Wikipedia has a good article.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States


The first flags were used to assist military coordination on battlefields, The usage of flags spread from India and China, where they were almost certainly invented,

The Persians used Derafsh Kaviani flag, at the time of Achaemenian dynasty at 550–330 B.C. Afterwards it was used in different look by the late Sassanid era (224–651). It was also representative of the Sassanid state—Ērānshāhr, the "Kingdom of Iran"—and may so be considered to have been the first "national flag"

During the Middle Ages, flags were used for a variety of purposes including: identification of members of nobility, guilds, cities, religious worship, and for use during battles. In battle, flags were used by military companies for identification on the field and relaying of strategic instructions. Though not always, flags could identify individual leaders: in Europe, monarchs and knights; in Japan, the samurai; in China, the generals under the imperial army; and in Mexico, the Aztec alliances.

From the era of sailing vessels onwards, it has been customary (and later a legal requirement) for ships to carry flags designating their nationality;[2] these flags eventually evolved into the national flags and maritime flags of today. Flags also became the preferred means of communications at sea,
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Thanks Steve fot the quote and yes the article was a good read...Some of you may be surprised by things in the article..it was enlightening....
 

Larrry

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I hate to see the flag or flag material used in clothing, as a patch would be ok. No to curtains from flags etc. A flag is a flag.
 

hopalong

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Steve said:
Larrry said:
I hate to see the flag or flag material used in clothing, as a patch would be ok. No to curtains from flags etc. A flag is a flag.

how about depicted as an avatar?


As explained by MsSage a long time ago I accept it as presented then!!!
It was explained then as a distress signal that this country was/an is in serious trouble, I have less problem with that avatar than I have with those that oppose the situation by bowing sown to those that TRUELY disrespect the flag and whine about her flying it upside down,
you can disagree and I respect that, hopefully you can respect her feelings and do without the whining or trying to make MsSage any less of a person by her avatar.
Steve i thought you were above this sort of thing,
 

Steve

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hopalong said:
Steve said:
Larrry said:
I hate to see the flag or flag material used in clothing, as a patch would be ok. No to curtains from flags etc. A flag is a flag.

how about depicted as an avatar?


As explained by MsSage a long time ago I accept it as presented then!!!
It was explained then as a distress signal that this country was/an is in serious trouble, I have less problem with that avatar than I have with those that oppose the situation by bowing sown to those that TRUELY disrespect the flag and whine about her flying it upside down,
you can disagree and I respect that, hopefully you can respect her feelings and do without the whining or trying to make MsSage any less of a person by her avatar.
Steve i thought you were above this sort of thing,

my comment was not about Ms Sage's avatar, but concerning Larry's..
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in his post he said he hated our flag depicted in clothing and as curtains, so I asked how he felt when our Flag was depicted in an avatar.. (such as his)
 

hopalong

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Angusgord said:
hopalong said:
Steve said:
how about depicted as an avatar?


As explained by MsSage a long time ago I accept it as presented then!!!
It was explained then as a distress signal that this country was/an is in serious trouble, I have less problem with that avatar than I have with those that oppose the situation by bowing sown to those that TRUELY disrespect the flag and whine about her flying it upside down,
you can disagree and I respect that, hopefully you can respect her feelings and do without the whining or trying to make MsSage any less of a person by her avatar.
Steve i thought you were above this sort of thing,
NOT Larry huh????



When I was in Cuba 2 yrs ago ,our Flag was being flown upside down ,p****d the hell out of me went to front desk and told the person working there ,he said it get's done in the night ,they couldn't control it.I don't know about you guy's but flying my flag upside down is ignorance in the purest form!!! Honoring a soldier is one thing ,doing it because you don't like our president is pure ignorance


Yea sure ok yep what ever you say okayyyy
ummm hummm yep.uhhhhh uhhhhhhh
 

hopalong

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Steve said:
hopalong said:
Steve said:
how about depicted as an avatar?


As explained by MsSage a long time ago I accept it as presented then!!!
It was explained then as a distress signal that this country was/an is in serious trouble, I have less problem with that avatar than I have with those that oppose the situation by bowing sown to those that TRUELY disrespect the flag and whine about her flying it upside down,
you can disagree and I respect that, hopefully you can respect her feelings and do without the whining or trying to make MsSage any less of a person by her avatar.
Steve i thought you were above this sort of thing,

my comment was not about Ms Sage's avatar, but concerning Larry's..
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in his post he said he hated our flag depicted in clothing and as curtains, so I asked how he felt when our Flag was depicted in an avatar.. (such as his)

I could not blow his avitar up big enough to see the flag that you say is there.
 
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