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Calf attacked and killed

Manitoba_Rancher said:
Roper-


Weve spotted the bugger right in the area.
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I have hunted and trapped all my life. I have read just about every book that I could ever get my hands on by wildlife biologests. I live in an area that local fish and wildlife calls cougar alley. Three cougars have been shot right from my front porch. I really cant say for certain but I doubt very much it was a cougar.
When I used to calve down on this one certain coulee there was a cougar there. Saw him only once when he was laying in the cottonwoods just 15 feet from some calves.
That cougar never touched a calf that spring. He lived there for atleast 3 years and as far as I know he nevered bothered a cow.
Saw lots of cougar kills but he was living off mule deer. Like a cougar is a killing machine. A cougar can kill deer at will. The cougars around here<I have them right around my house where im living now> can kill wild game like deer so easily that they dont seem to bother with the stock.
Dont get me wrong, I would not trust a cougar. Shoot / Shovel and Shut Up :wink:
Cougars and Wolves eat a lot of Deer and Elk
 
Roper, did you (or anybody else, for that matter) ever read the book "Never a Time to Trust", by Joe Garner from British Columbia? He was a logger who wrote a few really good books about logging and wildlife on the West Coast.

(Yah, I know what some of you are thinking, logging and wildlife are one and the same thing!)

Anyway, Joe wrote a book about cougars and such like and how you could trust them to do any unthinkable thing! They are a dangerous, unpredictable cat.
 
Mrs.Greg said:
Also not an expert-but claw marks on back side is a cat..Seen that before
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If you go back and look at the picture you cant see any claw marks.
I know he said there was claw marks but unless I could see them its hard to say if they where claw marks from a cougar.
 
Maple Leaf Angus said:
Roper, did you (or anybody else, for that matter) ever read the book "Never a Time to Trust", by Joe Garner from British Columbia? He was a logger who wrote a few really good books about logging and wildlife on the West Coast.

(Yah, I know what some of you are thinking, logging and wildlife are one and the same thing!)

Anyway, Joe wrote a book about cougars and such like and how you could trust them to do any unthinkable thing! They are a dangerous, unpredictable cat.
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I havnt read the book
Really cougars are not that bad around here because people hunt them. Its in the Federal Parks or in places like California where they dont hunt them that cougars are so dangerous to children or old people because they loose there fear.
Around here you can be living with cougars all around you and chances are you will never see one. Or if you do chances are it will be at night inside one of your barns. Cougars do love colts! They will also tackle full grown horses. I know the biologest say they wont but a cougar jumped on three horses that I know of.
But cougars around here will drag or carry there kill to a really secluded thicket to eat it. Usually in a spot where they can see you coming but you cant see them. They will have several of these dinner tables in different spots in the area that they are in. You will know one <dinner table>when you see it. They dont eat there kill in the open. But then again Just like people and horses I suspect that not all cats are the same.
 
RoperAB,

Just because you cant see the claw marks in the picture does not mean there isnt any. If I hadnt buried him yet I would take a picture and show you. The cougar was spotted two days ago and we had a natural resource officer out and he confirmed it as a cougar kill. Said they were very unpredictable at this time of year. Now when Im doing chores Im packin some heat in the tractor with me........ :cowboy:
 
MR- We've had a lion roaming the area of our north place for a couple years now...A friend of mine saw him going across a stubble field last fall- then a fellow about 25 miles east lost a cow to one this winter- trapper confirmed by the tracks- then they found tracks in a yard about 10 miles away...

Then just Monday, my 84 year old uncle called to tell me it had moved over our way- He had just turned off the TV to go to bed when he heard the loudest scream- found the dogs hiding and shaking in the dog house- then it let out another scream from toward the creek ( said it sounded just like a wild woman screaming- send chills down your back)- figures the dogs must have got it riled before they chickened out...He was packing his old pistol-- but since it was dark he couldn't see it- popped off a couple rounds in the air and heard it running north.....

I think there are more around than a guy realizes- just don't see them and with the deer population around here as heavy as it is they should have good eating.....But I'm like you- I usually pack something but think I'll switch to the .45 or the 357 mag for awhile- I just don't like the idea of them getting brave enough to come into the yard....
 
I agree OT, When they are getting brave enoughest to come into the yard then something needs to be done. I just went into the hunter supply store the otehr day and picked up a new rifle so I hope to give her a try!!
 
For the last year or maybe two, folks have been saying that we have a big cat or cats prowling around this area. Finally about 3 weeks ago, a couple of hunters were coming out of a farm lane and saw a cougar crossing a field and head into a fence row. They had a camera and got several good shots of it walking the fenceline.

Last summer one of our neighbours who runs a boarding stable had a week-old foal taken down and ripped up in one of his paddocks. Some prints around, but it was unclear if it was a bear or a cougar. It had claw marks on it's neck and looked like a bear kill.
 
One of the neighbors said he saw cat marks in the creek and the fellows on the railroad supposedly said they had seen a mountain lion a couple of times in that particular area.

I hope he was just travellin' through. I think they are among the most
majestic of creatures, but I don't want them in any ranchers back yard.
 
My brother-in-law the addicted hunter,hunts cougar,says thats the scariest hunt there is,they back track on you and pretty soon your not tracking them they're tracking you..... :shock:
 
Manitoba_Rancher said:
RoperAB,

Just because you cant see the claw marks in the picture does not mean there isnt any. If I hadnt buried him yet I would take a picture and show you. The cougar was spotted two days ago and we had a natural resource officer out and he confirmed it as a cougar kill. Said they were very unpredictable at this time of year. Now when Im doing chores Im packin some heat in the tractor with me........ :cowboy:
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So is Natural resources going to help you get rid of the cat?
I never have tried this because its illegal but im wondering what would happen if you staked a lamb out at night that would bleat for its mother.
Stake it by a tree stand and have really good 12 volt light geared up so that when you hit the switch the light goes on the lamb so you can see to shoot the cat.
If your useing iron sights make sure the light is slightly behind you. With a scope make sure the light is a head of your scope.
If you use a ground blind the cat will probable circle the lamb and find you before he comes in.
 

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