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Calling all Cattle men

Big Muddy rancher

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Would you watch this whole "Meatrix " series and comment on if you see a "Anti Beef "message in these series of video clips/ http://www.moremeatrix.com/
Thanks
 

mwj

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All I saw was OT and Sandhusker riding there bike and Sanhusker cut his fingernail a little short while working in the backroom at the bank :p I am sure if Sandhusker would give us the email adresses for his cust. at the bank you could send it to them and let them vote. He should be glad to provide them because they would ALL vote that it is pro beef and show the rest of us how wrong you are :wink:
 

Red Barn Angus

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How could it be any more anti beef? If you read further they are anti pretty much all meat except their chosen specilaties. Their narrative is all their opinion and not supported by any facts or suggestions for reasonable alternatives. It's a cheap shot but scary because too many people will only look at the cartoon. Two of the sponsors are the Humane Society and PETA. Go figure. Idiots like this should not be able to espouse their crap without being liable for their actions. :mad:
 

mwj

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Red Barn Angus said:
How could it be any more anti beef? If you read further they are anti pretty much all meat except their chosen specilaties. Their narrative is all their opinion and not supported by any facts or suggestions for reasonable alternatives. It's a cheap shot but scary because too many people will only look at the cartoon. Two of the sponsors are the Humane Society and PETA. Go figure. Idiots like this should not be able to espouse their crap without being liable for their actions. :mad:[/quot


They did not say antibeef so using Sandhusker logic they are pro beef because they were making a profit from cattle :wink:
 

Tam

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Red Barn Angus said:
How could it be any more anti beef? If you read further they are anti pretty much all meat except their chosen specilaties. Their narrative is all their opinion and not supported by any facts or suggestions for reasonable alternatives. It's a cheap shot but scary because too many people will only look at the cartoon. Two of the sponsors are the Humane Society and PETA. Go figure. Idiots like this should not be able to espouse their crap without being liable for their actions. :mad:

If read on far enough you will see that the internet is not the only place this stuff can be seen as these cartoon films are being distributed to US schools by the thousands. Great little impression to leave in a kids mind just before they go home for lunch isn't it?

If you read far enough you will also see that they request you ask your waiters, butchers, meat counter employees certain questions and if they can't answer them then their meat should be AVOIDED. Questions like Who raised the animals and where are they located? Now with no possible way of knowing where the majority of Beef comes from within the US how is the waiter/butcher/meat counter employee suppose to know that answer? Another question is "Was the animal fed anything else besides grass?" Now if you don't know where it was raised how would you know if it was fed anything but grass? There were a few more questions but all led to the idea that the majority of US meat should be AVOIDED due to the lack of information that can be verified.

The more you read about these people the more you can understand why some (with the exception of Sandhusker of course :roll: ) believe these guys are out to stop meat consumption.
 

jigs

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I am glad I watched that... I did not know the freshly gutted carcass was moved directly over the meat being packaged.... no wonder the meat turns brown after a while...it is the crap that fell on it!!!

it all makes sense now!

I am joining their blog..... might be fun!
but what name to use?????? haymaker? sandhusker? bigmuddy? oh, I am gonna have to think this over!
 

Texan

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I'd like to see it, Big Muddy. But my dial-up is way too slow. I only got to 6% loaded before I gave up on it. But I don't have any trouble believing the intent of the message is to curtail consumption of beef/meat.

Most of us don't have any trouble recognizing those anti-animal agriculture messages. It's only a few people that will go to any length to promote/defend their own agenda that seem to have a problem recognizing that. Or maybe it's just that they have trouble admitting it? :???:
 

Sandhusker

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These guys are against corporate farming and the big business way of doing things. They're not anti-beef - they're anti beef from THOSE guys. They're telling you to eat grass-fed beef for Pete's sake!

I remember Burger King or Wendy's or somebody advertising about how the oil McDonald's used was bad for you - by BMR's logic, that made them anti-fries people! Obviously, they weren't. They were anti-McDonals's fries and promoting an alternative. That's what we're seeing here - these folks don't like the way our food is produced. They don't like the factory farms and they don't like the way "big" does business. While they claim all the gray area, they do have a point.

These folks are promoting grass fed and organic BEEF. The anti-gun folks don't want you to have any guns, the anti-abortion folks don't want you to have any abortions, you can go on and on. Wouldn't it stand to reason an anti-beef outfit wouldn't want you to eat any beef? Is that what you're seeing here? Click on their "eat well guide" and they'll show you where you can buy orgainc BEEF!

Talk about confusing issues....... :roll:
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Yep- Got to agree Sandhusker--This is the website of the sponsors:

http://www.sustainabletable.org/

Kind of like all those holistic or whatever promotions now catching on...We got several folks like that around here now- no fertilizer, sprays, hormones, antibiotics--market their cattle thru a grassfed all natural group....
 
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Anonymous

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Public Citizen (PC, www.citizen.org), was founded by Ralph Nader. PC has a long-standing campaign against irradiation of beef, saying “it does nothing to remove the feces, urine, pus and vomit that often contaminate beef.”

Come on guys, don't you see that, according to Sandcheska, this quote is not "ANTI BEEF", Public Citizen is promoting beef and the nutritional aspects of feces, urine, pus, and vomit that "SUPPOSEDLY" often contaminates beef.

Gee, now I suppose you want to argue that "CONTAMINATE" is an "anti beef" position too?

When Carol Tucker Foreman was trying to get beef out of the school lunch program, according to Little Sandcheska that was not "ANTI BEEF" geeez, she was just against the way these large corporations conduct business.

Twist and spin, dance, dance, dance Little Sandcheska!

Can't you see that Dittmer is clearly wrong and Little Sandcheska is right?

You go Little Sandcheska!


The truth of this matter is that flaming liberals like Kathleen Kelley and recently proclaimed democrat, Mike Callicrate, are in the same mindset as Consumer Federation, Consumers Union, and Public Citizen. R-CULT takes some of their marching orders from Mike and Kathleen.

The Rhetoric from CF, CU, and PU is yypical "anti corporate" rhetoric about how these large corporations are supposedly poisoning america and how these folks, Kathleen Kelly, and Mike Callicrate care more about the consumer than any large corporation possibly could. After all, according to Mike Callicrate, Tyson dismissed black jurors because they were black.

These two and their R-CULT buddies are jumping for joy now that Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, Ted Kennedy, and the rest of the liberals are heading up Washington D.C.

These "anti corporates" couldn't be happier.


~SH~
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Sandhusker just how does enough grass fed beef get slaughtered to the citizens of the USA if it is all grass fed and processed thru a packing plant?

Will you show these "Cartoons" at your next meeting you might have of your ranching customers?
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Perhaps we need to send Little Sandcheska to ND to staighten those producers out and show them how PU, CF, and PC are not "anti beef". In fact they just dislike the way these large corporations conduct business. Getting beef removed from the school lunch program is not "anti beef". Geeez guys, give Little Sandcheska a break here.

R-CULT is not against Canadian producers..... Yada, yada, yada

and the beat goes on.....
and the beat goes on.....


~SH~
 

Texan

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Sandhusker said:
That's what we're seeing here - these folks don't like the way our food is produced. They don't like the factory farms and they don't like the way "big" does business. While they claim all the gray area, they do have a point.
If you really think they have a point, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and refuse to sell any more cattle that go to a feedlot? Also, since you are so passionate about your admiration for these NOT anti-beef people, why don't you advise all of your customers to refuse to sell cattle that will go on feed? Demonstrate how important this principle really is to you.
 

S.S.A.P.

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Sandhusker and Oldtimer - lets pretend - you two are in charge of organizing a large, open to all, afternoon and evening program for cattle producers from all the northern States (lets say Kansas and north) . Guest speakers, social hour, supper maybe some dancing. Following the afternoon session there is time for a brief video presentation. The producers and sponsors of "The Meatrix" have made their video series available for you - the Beef Checkoff also has made available their series of aired Beef advs - which one are you going to show?
 

Sandhusker

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I would not show the meatrix because it is anti-corporate.

If it is anti-beef, why do they direct you to where you can buy it? Do the anti-gun people direct you to the nearest gun store?
 

Texan

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Sandhusker said:
Do the anti-gun people direct you to the nearest gun store?
If somebody is pointing a gun at you, do you wait until they say, "I'm gonna shoot you" before you recognize the threat?
 

Bill

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Sandhusker said:
I would not show the meatrix because it is anti-corporate.
If it is anti-beef, why do they direct you to where you can buy it? Do the anti-gun people direct you to the nearest gun store?

And you aren't ANTI-CORPORATE?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Painting back towards that corner once again huh, and you call ditch diggers idiots?
 

Sandhusker

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They didn't have to put that on their website. Actually, the website leads you to the page. Why did they do that if they don't want you to eat beef? Why would they purposefully lead to a place where you can buy bee?

You folks are ignoring the obvious, so I'll tell you. It's because they are against the way the product is produced and manufactured - it is not becasue they are against the product. They are trying to get you to buy that product from different sources that produce it differently.
 
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