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Can a Left Leaning person explain to me....

hypocritexposer

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...what an "Assault weapon" is?

How do you define an assualt weapon?

What does one look like?

How powerful are they?

What is the "rate of fire"?



What is the difference in these 2 guns? Is one an assault?


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So in 1994, legislators were forced to ask themselves, “What exactly will this ban do away with?” The category of “assault weapon” didn’t actually exist, and this was an opportunity for gun control advocates to create it, to say exactly what they wanted off the streets.

As it turns out, they were mostly opposed to things they saw in movies. Which is to say that most of the features that now defined “assault weapons” had to do with form and not function, totally sidestepping the issue of violent crime altogether. Three quick examples:

http://kontradictions.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/why-not-renew-the-assault-weapons-ban-well-ill-tell-you/
 

TSR

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Hypo, there is no difference except you left off the 30 rd. clip on the bottom gun before asking the question.
 

hypocritexposer

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TSR said:
Hypo, there is no difference except you left off the 30 rd. clip on the bottom gun before asking the question.


So the gun is the same, except for the 3 x 10 mags? How long does it take to change a mag?

With one pistol of 10-round capacity and one pistol of 15-round capacity, Cho killed more people than anyone has ever killed in a single U.S. shooting incident.
 

TSR

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hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
Hypo, there is no difference except you left off the 30 rd. clip on the bottom gun before asking the question.


So the gun is the same, except for the 3 x 10 mags? How long does it take to change a mag?

With one pistol of 10-round capacity and one pistol of 15-round capacity, Cho killed more people than anyone has ever killed in a single U.S. shooting incident.

Well according to the news sources I heard today on tv, while one of these "idiots" was changing clips, he was overpowered by commonfolk.
 

hypocritexposer

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TSR said:
hypocritexposer said:
TSR said:
Hypo, there is no difference except you left off the 30 rd. clip on the bottom gun before asking the question.


So the gun is the same, except for the 3 x 10 mags? How long does it take to change a mag?

With one pistol of 10-round capacity and one pistol of 15-round capacity, Cho killed more people than anyone has ever killed in a single U.S. shooting incident.

Well according to the news sources I heard today on tv, while one of these "idiots" was changing clips, he was overpowered by commonfolk.


you got a link to what you heard?


from what I heard, these high capicity clips have a habit of jamming, slowing a shooter down, compared to if he was only using 10 capacity clips.
 

TSR

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I forget who it was, but it was on C-Span this morning-- doesn't mean it was true necessarily but it was what was said.
 

smalltime

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The second one is for sure the assault weapon because it is black and has that narly pistol grip thingy.It's just bad a--. :lol:
 

TSR

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hypocritexposer said:
TSR, here is a gun without the 30 round clip.

How many shells does it hold?


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I admit I don't know I've never seen such a gun. I guess it would depend on the size of the bullets it uses.
 

hypocritexposer

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TSR said:
hypocritexposer said:
TSR, here is a gun without the 30 round clip.

How many shells does it hold?


rugerp95_zps5c0b172b.jpg

I admit I don't know I've never seen such a gun. I guess it would depend on the size of the bullets it uses.

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You lefties don't want armed policeman in schools, but are sure glad to see them show up after the crap hits the fan, aren't you?


The average number of people shot in a mass shooting event when the shooter is stopped by law enforcement: 14. The average number of people shot in a mass shooting event when the shooter is stopped by civilians: 2.5. The reason is simple. The armed civilians are there when it started.

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd02/correia-gc-opinion-01.htm
 

TSR

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Well if you are calling me a lefty---I am all for armed officers in schools although they are not always successful in prevention of violence but just maybe, on another note, the students can become friends with them and learn something from them.
 

hypocritexposer

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Summary
If gun control advocates want to actually have meaningful discussion and debate about the “assault weapon” and “high capacity” ban, they MUST address these questions:
- Why ban cosmetic features?
- Why ban guns used in a mere 2% of crime?
- Why base gun control legislation on rare and statistically insignificant mass shootings to begin with?
- Why ban magazines that have been consistently sized since their invention?
- How would banning these magazines have saved lives, given that all a shooter needs is multiple magazines and 3 seconds of time (i.e. Cho)?
- How will a ban on either these weapons or magazines reduce crime, since there are many millions of them legal and available anyway, especially since production has ramped up after the ban’s expiration?

And most importantly:

After a decade of failure, why assume that the bans will reduce violent crime THIS time around?
 
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