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I guess I couldn't care less about whether he was there the whole time, whether his Daddy got him, whatever...

For me, the simple fact of the matter is that Bush was like hundreds of thousands of other young men in the US-- He didn't want to go to VietNam, so he found the best way to get out of it that still did something productive.


But lets not try to turn him into some sort of war hero. That's just silly.
 
http://www.donbendell.com/EditorialOnJohnKerry3.html

ATTACKING THE ATTACKERS



I have written two widely-distributed editorials concerning the actions of democratic Presidential candidate John Forbes Kerry that have circulated the globe. In the first, the more popular, I wrote of my wife's rotator cuff surgery, but I wish to address much deeper wounds. Kerry's people have now said that I have slung mud, and I have. First, I was throwing it back, but more importantly; it was mud compiled from the dirt that has surrounded John Kerry since he first decided to run for President around 1970, mixed in with the blood and tears of those who fought in Vietnam, the men and women that he betrayed.

John Kerry is a decorated Vietnam veteran, but much more so is retired green beret Colonel (Ola) Lee Mize. Lee Mize, as an NCO, received the Congressional Medal of Honor in the Korean War, this nation's highest award for extreme heroism and gallantry in battle, and later retired as a full bird colonel after four full tours in the Vietnam War.

Retired army Sergeant First Class Sammy L. Davis also earned the coveted Congressional Medal of Honor for his actions with the 9th Infantry Division in Vietnam in 1967.

Generals, even Presidents, traditionally salute Medal of Honor recipients when they see them, as these men are so revered. Both of these very special men wanted to give me direct quotes specifically for this editorial concerning John F. Kerry.

Lee Mize said, "What he (John Kerry) did to our Vietnam veterans, throwing his medals over the fence, his testifying before Congress (in 1971), and hanging around with Jane Fonda. Then, never regretting his made-up lies and his testimony, that is a real shame. It is equally disgusting the way he put down our National Guard and our Reserves. He certainly is a two-faced individual."

Sammy Davis, the second MOH recipient I spoke with, said of Kerry, "He has done great disservice to every Vietnam veteran by his actions after he came home from Vietnam. He was in a position of power and could have implemented positive changes for veterans and active duty military personnel during the past 18 years, but he chose not to do so."

When asked on TV, in January, about George W. Bush's record in the Air National Guard, John Kerry mugged for the TV cameras and said, "I am not going to question someone's decision back then to join the National Guard, go to Canada, be a conscientious objector, or go AWOL."

Kerry did not stop to think, when he made such a statement, lumping National Guard service in with being AWOL or a draft dodger, that he was not only dishonoring the 6,077 men who died in Vietnam who were in the National Guard and Reserves, those who trained hard to protect our homeland and be a reserve force, but he also denigrated the 140 recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor in our nation's history who were members of the National Guard. That is what I said: 140 Medal of Honor recipients were in the National Guard.

My wife is the most beautiful, but also the toughest individual I know. She is public about being the victim of both acquaintance rape and gang rape, close to thirty years ago. Now, as a fifth degree black belt, a master, she has even been presented the prestigious Jefferson Award, in big part, for teaching women and girls how to fight back and win. In some ways, I have hated it when she prepares to conduct another Sexual Assault Prevention Clinic, as she emotionally is raped all over again, and I have to hold her many nights while she cries.

The few who have decried my attempts to call out about the emotional rape of Vietnam veterans by John F. Kerry, have said, "Vietnam was three decades ago. Why bring it up now? Let's talk about today's issues."

You cannot forget a rape. It is a life sentence for the victim. Just ask a Vietnam veteran.

I will not let people forget about the rape of our proud, long-standing strength of America, our military, and its leadership in Vietnam. It was conducted like an acquaintance rape. We were betrayed by one in a position of trust, and that hurts worse than stranger rape.

Let us talk today's facts: John Kerry called us his "Band of Brothers," and now flaunts his hero status to get elected. What has he done for his "Band Brothers?" Each session of Congress is 2 years in length.

In the eighties, in the 99th Congress, Kerry's first two years, when you would think he would be full of enthusiasm and eager to fix things, Kerry proposed 1 measly veteran-related bill, S1033. It died. In the 100th Congress, he proposed 1 measly veteran-related bill, S1510. It died, too. The 101st Congress, he proposed 1 measly veteran-related bill, S2128. It also died, but he did propose an amendment to a bill S2884. It died.

Then, in the 102nd , 103rd , 104th, 105th , 106th , and 107th sessions of Congress, 12 years, Kerry proposed ZERO bills related to veterans issues, his "Band of Brothers."

Finally, in the 108th Congress, closing in on two decades of seniority, but more importantly, deciding to run for the Presidency, Kerry sponsored 1 measly veteran-related bill, S1112. It died.

Now, Chief Hypocrite John F. Kerry, and his ardent supporters, attack Bush to divert his own miserable record, especially as it relates to those he calls his "Band of Brothers." When anybody like me fires back, they are pounced-upon and denounced as "mud-slingers."

Here is some factual mud: George W. Bush has increased military pay 21%. Kerry voted against military pay raises 12 times.

Kerry and his spinners have said that Bush is decimating the Veterans Administration. FACT: According to factscheck.org, Bush's 2005 fiscal budget increases VA funding by 40% over when Bush took office, Bush has cut administrative time in VA by half, the Annenberg Center says that funding for veterans under Bush is increasing twice as fast under Bush as it did under Clinton, and vets getting health benefits now has increased by over 27% under Bush.

Under previous Presidents, democratic and republican, I always was treated like a bastard stepchild at VA hospitals. Since Bush became President, I am treated like a veteran with respect and dignity and have never had to wait for more than a half an hour for an appointment.

Now Kerry, you and your cronies attack and belittle our commander-in-chief while we are at war, giving more propaganda to the enemy, all for what, . . . votes. Saddam Hussein? Iraq? Your own words and common sense answers that question, definitively.

"So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real." - Sen. John F. Kerry 1/23/03

"disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."- Sen. John F. Kerry, 10/9/02

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."- Sen. Ted Kennedy, 9/27/02

"Iraq is a long way from here, but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, 2/18/98

FACT: George W. Bush volunteered for extra service time to be trained as a jet pilot, no walk in the park itself, and voluntarily requested the release of 450 pages of his own personal military records, and they have been misrepresented and propagandized to attack him. Kerry touts his war hero status but adamantly refuses to request the public release of his own military records. He is a decorated hero. Being a decorated hero, why would he not release his records? What does he have to hide?

Now, Richard Clarke, an eight-year Clinton loyalist, has conveniently released his supposed tell-all book against the Bush Administration. He now slanders a President he publicly praised in a recorded 2002 news interview for taking a much tougher non-nonsense stance against the Al Q'Aida than his predecessor. I am an author: I know the value of releasing a book that creates controversy; and at this time, releasing this book can potentially put millions into Clarke's pockets. I wish I was releasing a book right now. He said in his book that Bush did nothing militarily until November after the attacks on September 11, 2001. Clarke's words about our military action at that time show how much he was NOT "in-the-loop." Special Forces and Special Operations is a very, very tight-knit community, and most of us, even ones not on active duty anymore, knew that President Bush had two Special Forces (Green Beret) A-Teams on the ground in Afghanistan within 48 hours of the first jet slamming into the World Trade Center. Within two hours of the 9-11 attacks, military plans were underway at USSOCOM headquarters at MacDill AFB, Florida.

What about John Kerry? Once a predator, always a predator. We, the true Band of Brothers were his victims once, but we will be silent no more. We choose to be victors, not victims.

We, the 25,000,000 veterans in this country have power, and we have proven we have courage, can get the job done, and function as a team. We will call and write the major sponsors of NBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC and tell them we are sick of their news departments spinning the news with subtleties and outright lies against our Commander-in-Chief and in favor of the democratic presidential candidate. We will tell those sponsors we will boycott their products if this is not stopped immediately. We will write to, or e-mail, FOX NEWS and similar organizations, and insist that they have people such as me on to address these issues. I will be happy to go head-to-head with John Kerry, Tom Brokaw, Dan Rather, Mike Wallace, or whoever they want to represent their liberal agenda, instead of news reporting like they are supposed to do.

We will talk to our democratic and independent friends and relatives and tell them we all must put our country ahead of political parties. We all know who the foreign leaders are that want John Kerry in the White House: the leaders of North Korea, Spain, France, the Hammas, PLO, mideast jihadists, overly-zealous mullahs, and let's not forget Osama bin Laden. They are hoping and praying to get George W. Bush out of the White House and John Kerry in. Why is that?

If you actually believe Kerry would do better than Bush on the economy and that is more important to you than our defense, ask yourself this question: How many times have you seen a Brinks truck follow a hearse to a cemetery?



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Don Bendell served as an officer in four Special Forces Groups, including a tour on a green beret A-team in Vietnam in 1968-1969, and was in the Top Secret Phoenix Program, is a top-selling author of westerns, science fiction, and non-fiction Vietnam books, with over 1,500,000 copies of his books in print worldwide, a 1995 inductee into the International Karate Hall of Fame, a 7th degree black belt master in four martial arts, and owns karate schools in southern Colorado. Site: www.donbendell.com e-mail: [email protected] . This editorial, and the other two, may be copied off my website and distributed.


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Humor is not a liberal trait, but snideness is???
 
I guess I couldn't care less about whether he was there the whole time

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I think the articles were intended for me!!!


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there goes another good muslim bashing thread, hyjacked and turned into Bush bashing....

I thought Disagreeable "left".....

now can we get back to Muslims.......such as the iranian homacide driver at one of our fine liberal colleges......

He appearntly drove a Jeep Grande cherokee into a group of students, because we were treating arabs bad.....

I believe misusing a jeep is a act of treason.......you can abuse them but darn it don't use them for acts of treason......sure makes me mad that he even had a fine American Jeep......

why couldn't he have used a toyota? or a Kia? heck I would think a renault would work if you could get it in a forward gear....
 
Soldiers are always young and impressionable, and full of moral outrage and bent on revenge

Not always.
A lot of soldiers have gone over because they joined pre-9/11 for school money, life-focus, etc. and a war just happened to occur. So they do what they signed up for and ship out.
 
stevec said:
A few years later she was being regularly raped by the male soldiers. Is that so different than what goes on in America's services?
SteveC you are a sorry individual . One that doesn't deserve the privilege and protection this nation offers. Our armed forces protect that privilege. For the men and women that have served, from my family and me, ...thank you.
 
stevec said:
theHiredMansWife said:
Soldiers are always young and impressionable, and full of moral outrage and bent on revenge

Not always.
A lot of soldiers have gone over because they joined pre-9/11 for school money, life-focus, etc. and a war just happened to occur. So they do what they signed up for and ship out.

They were young and impressionable to think they could get an education, etc.

Or practical. The GI Bill is a good way to pay for school. However, it is also a good way to go to war, at the moment...

stevec said:
A few years later she was being regularly raped by the male soldiers. Is that so different than what goes on in America's services?

My response would have to be yes, that is "so different"...

stevec said:
People who are young and impressionable learn that immoral behavior is "okay" from various sources, and in many different subtle ways.

I don't know about you, but my sense of right and wrong was pretty firmly established by the time I was 18 year old. By that age, I was already quite clear on my opinion of drinking, smoking, drugs, promiscuity, etc.
had a fairly clear view of the morality of rape and killing, too...

How old were you when you decided whether these things were right or wrong?
 
I think this will simply add more fuel to the fire, but I also think it might cause some folks to think a bit. In the end I am with the original poster - my answer is no.

We cannot judge the Muslim community by using our own background and our own code of ethics. Theirs is vastly different and even the "moderate" western Muslim will back the radical when push comes to shove.

It is imperative to understand the radical Muslim follows the Koran explicitly. Examples below for you to review at your leisure. My friends who have lived in the great sand boxes of the world would tell you that there are NO western leaders calling for the death and destruction of entire societies. That is not the case with those in the east.

Life is cheap to them because they WANT to die.

One can say the Bible is full of similar statements – but I would counter this comment with this statement – "Western religion preaches tolerance and no western religion calls for extermination of an entire country or race of people." I can assure you from personal experience – despite what the western moderate Muslim would have you believe – in the east it is quite different. Islam translates into Submit / Submission. In reality it means become Muslim or die.

Look at Saudi Arabia as an example – try to be openly Christian there. It will lead to imprisonment or death.

1. In Islam, the rules only apply to, and can only be applied by, Muslims, particularly Muslim men, and are sometimes not absolute. For example, under Islam the only unpardonable sin appears to be killing a Muslim:

Sura 4:93:

"He that kills a believer by design shall burn in Hell for ever. He shall incur the wrath of God, who will lay His curse on him and prepare for him a mighty scourge." (Dawood).

2. Rejecting Islam is itself a sin that can earn you death. This is confirmed by the following sura that shows that one sign you have repented from your unbelief is that you submit to Islamic law - i.e., the rule can only be applied by Muslims:

Sura 4:65

"But they will not - I swear by your Lord - they will not be true believers until they seek your arbitration in their disputes. Then they will not doubt the justice of your verdicts and will submit to you entirely." (Dawood).

3. CHRISTIANS ARE UNBELIEVERS

Sura 5:72

"Unbelievers are those who say: 'God is the Messiah, the son of Mary.'" (Dawood excerpt)

4. MUSLIMS CANNOT EVEN TAKE JEWS AND CHRISTIANS AS FRIENDS

Sura 3:28

"Let not believers make friends with infidels in preference to the faithful - he that does this has nothing to hope for from God - except in self-defense. God admonishes you to fear Him: for to God shall all return." (Dawood)



There are many more, and in the end it will come down to the fact that there are far too few who worship Islam that will ever denounce the violence. In fact as I have stated the moderate Islamic will always follow the radical when push comes to shove.

This is why - good or bad - there will eventually be war. Probably worldwide. And this is why the weatern civilization will be changed forever. Western civilization does not run television programs designed for children that dignifies and honours suicide bombers.

Western civilization does not dignify and honour the parents of a suicide bomber for their actions.

Western civilization as a general rule has a bible that is not followed - for whatever reason you wish to claim. Yet this same bible is often dragged out and used in comparisom to Koran followers and believers. If this were 50 years ago I might agree, but today the laws of the land have superceded the western bible and will prevent "biblical retribution". My opinion ofcourse.

It will eventually come down to this.

More than one billion Islam followers will - through radical leadership - turn this world into a war zone within the next 20 years. And there are at least 50% of them that want this - my opinion - simply to create a world dominated by the Islam faith.

Australia is very nervous. Europe has already fallen and U.K. is soon to go. All because of "tolerance". The very same tolerance that is ferociously denied in the middles east to all but those of the Islam faith by the eastern religion of Islam.

Iran will someday have nukes - does anyone here believe they will not be used? Especially since the Iranian government is determined to "wipe Isreal off the map" - and to destry non-believers?

Easy to sit here and ask the question about can we co-exist. If their attitudes and their tolerances were the same as ours - it could happen. Unfortunately for us they would like to see us all convert or die.

Do your due diligence and research. Then read between the lines whenevr you come across the "moderates. We are in for interesting times.

B.C.
 

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