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So you don't have the data then? No surprise, you never did have it. How do you so eloquently put it...... FACTUALLY VOID? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: FACTUALLY VOID........A BIG, BIG VOID AT THAT! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
Sandbag,

If the data doesn't exist, why did you take the money? Only a true hypocrite would take the money from a bet they contributed nothing to then question the data later while keeping the money.

Everyone that followed that thread can see how you played both sides proving what a weasel you really are. I'm glad I have more integrity than that and you have $100 and my willingness to admit I was wrong on calendar year 2004 to prove it. I failed to consider that those northern feedlots continued to supply those northern plants with Canadian cattle until they ran out in 2005. You didn't have a clue either way. You just issue the challenge to what you don't want to believe like the chickensh*t you are. Not once have you ever contributed supporting facts to support your position. All you do is create "ILLUSIONS". Like a Quote stating that SOME JAPANESE CONSUMERS MAY HAVE WANTED TESTING AT SOME TIME. You think that trumps Japan's actions. That's what an idiot you are.


~SH~
 
SH, "If the data doesn't exist, why did you take the money? Only a true hypocrite would take the money from a bet they contributed nothing to then question the data later while keeping the money."

I took the money because YOU made a comment that YOU bet that YOU could back with facts and YOU couldn't.

Question WHAT data, SH? WHAT DATA? You brought NO DATA! THAT'S WHY YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

I'm willing to let this drop if you are. However, I promise I'll bring it up every time you accuse somebody else of being "factually void". The ball is in your court. Either calm down and act like a rational adult, or I'll continue to remind you and others of your hypocracy.
 
Sandhusker said:
SH, "If the data doesn't exist, why did you take the money? Only a true hypocrite would take the money from a bet they contributed nothing to then question the data later while keeping the money."

I took the money because YOU made a comment that YOU bet that YOU could back with facts and YOU couldn't.

Question WHAT data, SH? WHAT DATA? You brought NO DATA! THAT'S WHY YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

I'm willing to let this drop if you are. However, I promise I'll bring it up every time you accuse somebody else of being "factually void". The ball is in your court. Either calm down and act like a rational adult, or I'll continue to remind you and others of your hypocracy.

Where was your Data to prove him wrong? You were the one that claimed he lied so prove it. BTW Gloating when you win by default and not of your own efforts is pathetic. If I were you I would want that whole sorry show of your integrity drop into cyberspace. :roll:
 
Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
SH, "If the data doesn't exist, why did you take the money? Only a true hypocrite would take the money from a bet they contributed nothing to then question the data later while keeping the money."

I took the money because YOU made a comment that YOU bet that YOU could back with facts and YOU couldn't.

Question WHAT data, SH? WHAT DATA? You brought NO DATA! THAT'S WHY YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :roll:

I'm willing to let this drop if you are. However, I promise I'll bring it up every time you accuse somebody else of being "factually void". The ball is in your court. Either calm down and act like a rational adult, or I'll continue to remind you and others of your hypocracy.

Where was your Data to prove him wrong? You were the one that claimed he lied so prove it. BTW Gloating when you win by default and not of your own efforts is pathetic. If I were you I would want that whole sorry show of your integrity drop into cyberspace. :roll:

Tam, your brother bet that HE would prove his comment. Since he can't, he tries to turn it on me - just as you are doing - and demand I prove him wrong. If he wanted me to prove him wrong, he shouldn't of flapped his lips and said he had the proof - and then propose a bet that he had it. His bluff got called.

He also shouldn't label others "factually void" in his non-endearing juvinile manner when he is guilty of the offense himself.

YOU need to realize that if you run with clowns, you'll be a clown.
 
Sandbag: "I took the money because YOU made a comment that YOU bet that YOU could back with facts and YOU couldn't."

Bullsh*t you damn liar. When Agman presented the information that proved me wrong on calendar year 2004, you thanked him for his honesty. Do you want to deny that? Why didn't you question the data then??? Hmmmm?? You damn hypocrite!

Now you question that same data since it proved my original statement right. You can't have it both ways you sorry SOB, either the data was good enough to prove me wrong on calendar year 2004 and right about the entire period the Canadian border was closed or it wasn't good enough for either. You're playing both sides of this in your typical deceptive ways.


Sandbag: "Question WHAT data, SH? WHAT DATA? You brought NO DATA! THAT'S WHY YOU LOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Another lie.

I presented the data that showed that Boise and Pasco were running at 33% of capacity while paying their workforce for a 32 hour work week but this did not occur until 2005.

I presented the Tyson report that showed Lakeside losing money due to SRM removal costs for one quarter in 2005.

Tyson's report also claimed Lakeside was making money in the remaining quarters but not enough to cover for the losses that were occurring in other plants, namely Pasco and Boise.

I called a Tyson representative that told me personally that Pasco and Boise lost WAY MORE than Lakeside made during the closed Canadian border. I even gave you the number but you refused to call clutching to the "ILLUSION" that you might be right like the parasite you are.

Do you want to deny any of this? I didn't think so!

You would not accept that data, you demanded a financial report knowing it wasn't available. I had more than enough proof and confirmed it with a call to a Tyson representative. Proof enough to know that I was wrong about calendar year 2004 and willingly pay up. Something you would never have done. My original statement was correct, PERIOD! I would bet anyone $500 on that.

You're a parasite Sandbag, that's all there is to it. Absolutely zero integrity.

I don't care how often you bring this up Sandbag because it just proves what a counterfeit you really are. The fact remains I proved my statement correct and you offered nothing to back your position that I had lied, then I didn't lie, then I did lie, then you weren't sure. Flopping back and forth like John Kerry with a guilty conscience. You showed your true colors then and you are showing them now. The end justified the means because you have no integrity.


~SH~
 
There is a huge number of factors that influence a company's bottom line. You bring a few and claim that is proof of the bottom line? :roll:

You said X made more money than Y. Money is measured by dollar figures. You couldn't bring a dollar figure for ANY of the plants.

I question you making claims about Agman's data. He didn't bring any. NONE, ZILCH, ZERO, yet you keep referencing it.... :roll: I've offered you your $100 back if you could provide it. Why don't you bring it, SH?

I'm a parasite? Whatever. :roll: You bluffed, I called it and now I'm a parasite, deceptive, a sorry SOB, illusionist, .....am I missing anything?

Grow up, Scotty.
 
Sore loser, SH. You can't help to get your nose rubbed in your own ignorance over and over again, can you?
 
Sandbag: "There is a huge number of factors that influence a company's bottom line. You bring a few and claim that is proof of the bottom line?"

Then how could I have been proven wrong on calendar year 2004?

Explain that you damn hypocrite!


Sandbag: "You said X made more money than Y. Money is measured by dollar figures. You couldn't bring a dollar figure for ANY of the plants."

So how could I have been proven wrong on calendar year 2004?

What did you thank Agman for?


Sandbag: " I question you making claims about Agman's data. He didn't bring any. NONE, ZILCH, ZERO, yet you keep referencing it.... I've offered you your $100 back if you could provide it. Why don't you bring it, SH?"

If Agman didn't have any data, why did you thank him for his honesty?

Why didn't you demand it then?

Damn hypocrite!


Sandbag: "I'm a parasite? Whatever."

You most certainly are! The data we provided was good enough to prove me wrong on calendar year 2004, good enough for you to thank Agman for presenting it and thank him for his honesty, and good enough for you to accept the $100 from my willingness to admit my mistake but not good enough to prove my original statement correct?

What a damn hypocrite! You should hang your head. You are absolutely pathetic.


Conman: "You can't help to get your nose rubbed in your own ignorance over and over again, can you?"

Hahaha! Listen to the mindless cheerleader. You haven't proven me wrong on anything yet. All you do is make your little statements and divert the debate. Nobody that matters cares what you think Conman. Nobody likes a liar.


~SH~
 
I didn't thank Agman for his data, I thanked him because he broke ranks with you and said you were wrong. He didn't bring any data, you know that, yet you continually reference it - and you call ME an illusionist?

If you weren't convinced that you were wrong, why did you pay?

Calm down and grow up, Scotty.
 
Sandbag: "I didn't thank Agman for his data, I thanked him because he broke ranks with you and said you were wrong. He didn't bring any data, you know that, yet you continually reference it - and you call ME an illusionist?"

You took him at his word and thanked him for his honesty!

He also said my original statement was correct based on the same data.

You pick and choose what you want to believe based on what supports your bias at that time proving what a complete hypocrite you are.

The same data that proved me wrong on calendar year 2004 proved my original statement to be correct. You accept one and reject the other when it was the same research. That qualifies you as a parasite.


~SH~
 
I already brought it. You refused it for my original statement but accepted it for calendar year 2004 proving what a hypocrite you really are. You pick and choose what you want to believe. You support what you want to believe and discredit what you don't but you've never brought anything relevant to the table to support your views. Any chickensh*t can issue a challenge. That doesn't require any intelligence or effort.

Why did you accept the $100 if you question the data?

DAMN HYPOCRITE!


~SH~
 
Sore loser. If you would engage in a few more bets, I would take more of your hard earned gopher money.
 
Conman: "If you would engage in a few more bets, I would take more of your hard earned gopher money."

You haven't won any money from me in a bet you damn liar. What do you mean take "MORE" of my hard earned money?

Sandbag can't even win a bet without me proving myself wrong, willingly admitting it, and paying up. You idiots never support anything you believe with supporting facts. Any chickensh*t can issue a challenge. You support your beliefs with statements that say what you want to believe, not facts.

Your opinion is irrelevant Conman. Go play on the railroad tracks.


~SH~
 
~SH~ said:
I already brought it. You refused it for my original statement but accepted it for calendar year 2004 proving what a hypocrite you really are. You pick and choose what you want to believe. You support what you want to believe and discredit what you don't but you've never brought anything relevant to the table to support your views. Any chickensh*t can issue a challenge. That doesn't require any intelligence or effort.

Why did you accept the $100 if you question the data?

DAMN HYPOCRITE!


~SH~

More referencing of that ghost data.

I accepted the $100 because there was no data. You would of needed data to prove your point, which is what YOU bet YOU could do.

Grow up, Scotty. The idiot act is fun for a while, but even eating steak and lobster every day gets old.
 
Sandbag: "I accepted the $100 because there was no data. You would of needed data to prove your point, which is what YOU bet YOU could do."

That is a damn lie!

This is what has really turned me sour about this site. With each passing day it gets easier and easier for you and other blamers like you, to lie. Conman can't even post without lying and not once have you ever questioned what he says because he says what you want to believe and he's firmly entrenched in the "blamer's camp" with you. That's what makes you blamers so completely pathetic. You can't think for yourselves, you can't stand up for what's right if it means questioning a fellow blamer, and you can't back any of your views with supporting facts because you refuse to conduct your own reseach to find out the truth. Mind numbed robots.

The fact is, and I can prove that I presented THE DATA that showed Boise and Pasco were running at 33% of capacity while paying their labor force for a 32 hour work week. I presented the TYSON DATA that showed Lakeside losing money for the first quarter of 2005. I presented the average wages for the Boise and Pasco plants. I also brought THE DATA that showed what Lakeside lost in SRM removal costs. I also brought the data that showed that Pasco and Boise's combined slaughter capacity was near equal to Lakeside's slaughter capacity. I also provided the Alberta study that proved that Lakeside did not profit excessively as compared to the losses in Boise and Pasco during this time period.

WHAT DID YOU CONTRIBUTE???? NOT A GAWD DAMN THING!

Now, like the little coward you are, you pretend this data never existed. If you were honest, you would admit that you rejected this data that I provided and you rejected the phone call i made to Tyson. You would also admit that you didn't provide anything to back your views other than your initial challenge. On the other hand, like the hypocrite you are, you accepted Agman's WORD on calendar year 2004 without questioning it and thanked him for his honesty because it would mean you won the bet without contributing anything to it. That's exactly the way it was.

You could stand on your argument that you wanted an individual plant breakdown on expenses and income, although it would be a weak stand against THE DATA I provided, if you hadn't accepted Agman's WORD on calendar year 2004. You never questioned Agman's WORD when it supported your bias because it would mean you won the bet without contributing anything to it. Now you want to question Agman's WORD, based on his research, and THE DATA I provided that proved my original statement correct. That's where you really showed your cards and proved what a parasite you really are.

Any fool knows you can't run a plant at 33% of capacity while paying a labor force for a 32 hour work week and not loose a tremendous amount of money. This was more than enough to prove my point. This was confirmed by a phonecall to a Tyson representative that stated "Boise and Pasco lost WAY MORE than Lakeside made in the remaining quarters of 2005" where Lakeside made money. Lakeside running more shifts and speeding up the chains could not possibly compensate for the lost capacity at the other two plants.

That is the data I provided and I assume it's still archived. If not, I have copies of that thread.

You refused this data because it would mean that you pulled your challenge out of your ash and you didn't have anything to back your position which is perfectly normal for you.

Agman said his own data showed that Boise and Pasco were not sustaining heavy losses until 2005. That is why I willingly admitted I was wrong and paid up. I made the mistake of agreeing to calendar year 2004 "for simplicity sake". You didn't have any knowledge of the issue whether it was calendar year 2004, 2005, or the entire period of time when the border was closed. You didn't know either way. I had forgot about all the Canadian cattle still feeding those northern plants in 2004 until that supply dried up. That was my only mistake.

Everyone knows how much winning this bet meant to you considering how many times your positions were proven wrong in the past. Agman stated that I was right on my original statement so not only did I provide the information that proved me right and confirm this with a phone call to Tyson, Agman's data also backed me up but you rejected that and accepted HIS WORD on 2004. Funny how that is the first time that I can remember that you accepted Agman's data without your usual chickensh*t challenge because it happened to support your bias.

You can dance around it all you want Sandweasel, LIKE YOU ALWAYS DO, but everyone who matters knows that the only way you can win a bet with me is if I prove myself wrong because you've never backed a position you've held with supporting facts on this site yet. You believe what you want to believe and question what you don't. Truth doesn't matter to a blamer like you and you don't conduct any research on your own. R-CULT tells you how to think and you follow the crowd like mice following the R-CULT pied piper. You need to fit in as opposed to being driven by truth and facts like I am.

You got nothing on me and you never will have. Anyone can win a bet with someone who is willing to conduct his own reasearch, willing to prove himself wrong, willing to admit when he's wrong, and willing to pay up without you contributing anything but a chickensh*t challenge.

Bottom line, you accepted Agman's WORD for calendar year 2004 and you rejected HIS WORD AND THE DATA I PROVIDED AND A PHONE CALL FROM A TYSON REPRESENTATIVE to back my initial statement. No further proof is needed to prove what a parasite you really are. You provided NOTHING in either case. You couldn't be a bigger hypocrite and you have $100 to prove what my integrity is worth. I'm sure glad I don't have to crawl around like you do.

You keep bringing this up because you are still trying to justify it in your feeble mind. You obviously have a conscience problem and it's understandable considering the circumstances.

I have nothing more to say on the matter that wouldn't be a repeat of what I already stated. Cling to your weak "bring the data" lie to prove my original statement when the data has already been provided. You rejected that data on my original statement and accepted Agman's word without question on calendar year 2004. Case closed!


~SH~
 
In other words, you are just a fool, SH, but one who pays on his bets.

At least you have that going for you.

Can't we have a circus chicken or something?
 
I'm tired of this, SH. Your bet was on profits. Your data is only partial and circumstancial. You can't prove that somebody made more money than somebody else without bringing ABSOLUTE FINAL DOLLAR FIGURES. I can't believe I would have to explain that to an adult.

When you submit your tax return, are there dollar figures that eventually lead to a figure at the bottom, or do you tell the IRS your capacity vs herd size, how many hours you worked, toss in a few bills, etc... like you tried to pull off here?

I'm sorry, SH, but you're a helpless idiot. Calm down and grow up. There are advantages to being an adult.
 

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