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Some Seattle school children are being told to be skeptical of private property rights. This lesson is being taught by banning Legos.


A ban was initiated at the Hilltop Children's Center in Seattle. According to an article in the winter 2006-07 issue of "Rethinking Schools" magazine, the teachers at the private school wanted their students to learn that private property ownership is evil.


According to the article, the students had been building an elaborate "Legotown," but it was accidentally demolished. The teachers decided its destruction was an opportunity to explore "the inequities of private ownership." According to the teachers, "Our intention was to promote a contrasting set of values: collectivity, collaboration, resource-sharing, and full democratic participation."


The children were allegedly incorporating into Legotown "their assumptions about ownership and the social power it conveys." These assumptions "mirrored those of a class-based, capitalist society -- a society that we teachers believe to be unjust and oppressive."


They claimed as their role shaping the children's "social and political understandings of ownership and economic equity ... from a perspective of social justice."


So they first explored with the children the issue of ownership. Not all of the students shared the teachers' anathema to private property ownership. "If I buy it, I own it," one child is quoted saying. The teachers then explored with the students concepts of fairness, equity, power, and other issues over a period of several months.


At the end of that time, Legos returned to the classroom after the children agreed to several guiding principles framed by the teachers, including that "All structures are public structures" and "All structures will be standard sizes." The teachers quote the children:


"A house is good because it is a community house."


"We should have equal houses. They should be standard sizes."

"It's important to have the same amount of power as other people over your building."



Given some recent history in Washington state with respect to private property protections, perhaps this should not come as a surprise. Municipal officials in Washington have long known how to condemn one person's private property and sell it to another for the "public use" of private economic development. Even prior to the U.S. Supreme Court's 2005 ruling in Kelo v. City of New London, Connecticut, which sanctioned such a use of eminent domain, Washington state officials acting under their state constitution were already proceeding full speed ahead with such transactions.


Officials in Bremerton, for example, condemned a house where a widow had lived for 55 years so her property could be used for a car lot, according to the Institute for Justice. And Seattle successfully condemned nine properties and turned them over to a private developer for retail shops and hotel parking, IJ reports. Attempts to do the same thing in Vancouver (for mixed use development) and Lakewood (for an amusement park) failed for reasons unrelated to property confiscation issues.


The court's ruling in Kelo, however, whetted municipal condemnation appetites even further. The Institute for Justice reports 272 takings for private use are pending or threatened in the state as of last summer. It's unclear if Legos will be targeted. But given what's being taught in some schools, perhaps it's just a matter of time.


Maureen Martin ([email protected]), an attorney, is senior fellow for legal affairs at The Heartland Institute, a nonprofit organization based in Chicago that promotes free-market solutions to social and economic problems.

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=022107C
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Don't look now but the left is COMING
 

Steve

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" These assumptions "mirrored those of a class-based, capitalist society -- a society that we teachers believe to be unjust and oppressive."

Maybe the teachers should move to North Korea so they can see the fairness of socialism in reality.

Then they would truly understand unjust and oppressive.
 

andybob

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Steve, a more recent and gaphic example is Zimbabwe, the second biggest economy in Africa turned into a begging state with 1600% inflation in only one big land grab in 2000.
 

Mike

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andybob said:
Steve, a more recent and gaphic example is Zimbabwe, the second biggest economy in Africa turned into a begging state with 1600% inflation in only one big land grab in 2000.

Andybob, If you're ever down this way I would sure like to hear some of your stories. Each time you mention your troubles in Zimbabwe, chills run down my back.
 

Steve

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AndyBob:
a more recent and gaphic example is Zimbabwe, the second biggest economy in Africa turned into a begging state with 1600% inflation in only one big land grab in 2000.

Liberal re-distribution "never works beyond the first stage where they take from the Rich.....for some reason the giving to the poor seems to fall apart.
 

Red Robin

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Mike said:
andybob said:
Steve, a more recent and gaphic example is Zimbabwe, the second biggest economy in Africa turned into a begging state with 1600% inflation in only one big land grab in 2000.

Andybob, If you're ever down this way I would sure like to hear some of your stories. Each time you mention your troubles in Zimbabwe, chills run down my back.
Ditto. I'll sure buy your supper if you make it to Arkansas.
 

andybob

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Red Robin said:
Mike said:
andybob said:
Steve, a more recent and gaphic example is Zimbabwe, the second biggest economy in Africa turned into a begging state with 1600% inflation in only one big land grab in 2000.

Andybob, If you're ever down this way I would sure like to hear some of your stories. Each time you mention your troubles in Zimbabwe, chills run down my back.
Ditto. I'll sure buy your supper if you make it to Arkansas.
Thanks Mike and Red Robin, I'll look you up the next time I travel south.
 

Soapweed

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andybob said:
Steve, a more recent and gaphic example is Zimbabwe, the second biggest economy in Africa turned into a begging state with 1600% inflation in only one big land grab in 2000.

It kind of boils down to what happens when the cattle are allowed to run the ranch.
 

jigs

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we have a truck driver in every Monday. he is a native of South Africa. his stories of equality and re-distribution......

how the white farmers were booted for the blacks, and now there is nothing but weeds on the farm. he is very upset with the way our country is operating....he says we are at the beginning of the end. he says the USA is on the same path as South Africa, and it will be the downfall of this nation.

there is no Robin Hood! there is nothing wrong with profit. prosperity is a good thing.

do these welfare kings and queens know that their bread is buttered by these horrible wealthy property owners?? re-distribution will only make life worse for them.

liberals love to hand out fish........while the conservatives want to teach a person to fish!
 

aplusmnt

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jigs said:
we have a truck driver in every Monday. he is a native of South Africa. his stories of equality and re-distribution......

how the white farmers were booted for the blacks, and now there is nothing but weeds on the farm. he is very upset with the way our country is operating....he says we are at the beginning of the end. he says the USA is on the same path as South Africa, and it will be the downfall of this nation.

there is no Robin Hood! there is nothing wrong with profit. prosperity is a good thing.

do these welfare kings and queens know that their bread is buttered by these horrible wealthy property owners?? re-distribution will only make life worse for them.

liberals love to hand out fish........while the conservatives want to teach a person to fish!

Heard a person on radio talking about how Welfare was the down fall of the Black Americans. He talked about how during slavery and afterwards that Black Families were strong maybe even stronger than the white man. They had learned to trust and lean on each other. Then after slavery they had a good record of working hard and trying to make something of themselves now that they were free.

But social programs and welfare ruined this.
 

CattleArmy

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jigs said:
we have a truck driver in every Monday. he is a native of South Africa. his stories of equality and re-distribution......

how the white farmers were booted for the blacks, and now there is nothing but weeds on the farm. he is very upset with the way our country is operating....he says we are at the beginning of the end. he says the USA is on the same path as South Africa, and it will be the downfall of this nation.

there is no Robin Hood! there is nothing wrong with profit. prosperity is a good thing.

do these welfare kings and queens know that their bread is buttered by these horrible wealthy property owners?? re-distribution will only make life worse for them.

liberals love to hand out fish........while the conservatives want to teach a person to fish!

Do conservatives want to teach the person to fish or beat them with a stick until they conform to the right way to fish their way? :???:
 

Mike

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CattleArmy said:
jigs said:
we have a truck driver in every Monday. he is a native of South Africa. his stories of equality and re-distribution......

how the white farmers were booted for the blacks, and now there is nothing but weeds on the farm. he is very upset with the way our country is operating....he says we are at the beginning of the end. he says the USA is on the same path as South Africa, and it will be the downfall of this nation.

there is no Robin Hood! there is nothing wrong with profit. prosperity is a good thing.

do these welfare kings and queens know that their bread is buttered by these horrible wealthy property owners?? re-distribution will only make life worse for them.

liberals love to hand out fish........while the conservatives want to teach a person to fish!

Do conservatives want to teach the person to fish or beat them with a stick until they conform to the right way to fish their way? :???:

Yes! Yes they do!
 

aplusmnt

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CattleArmy said:
jigs said:
we have a truck driver in every Monday. he is a native of South Africa. his stories of equality and re-distribution......

how the white farmers were booted for the blacks, and now there is nothing but weeds on the farm. he is very upset with the way our country is operating....he says we are at the beginning of the end. he says the USA is on the same path as South Africa, and it will be the downfall of this nation.

there is no Robin Hood! there is nothing wrong with profit. prosperity is a good thing.

do these welfare kings and queens know that their bread is buttered by these horrible wealthy property owners?? re-distribution will only make life worse for them.

liberals love to hand out fish........while the conservatives want to teach a person to fish!

Do conservatives want to teach the person to fish or beat them with a stick until they conform to the right way to fish their way? :???:

Mostly we want them to learn to fish so we do not have to always share or families fish with them because they are to busy sitting on the couch watching American Idol 5 hours a week to get their line wet. :x
 

jigs

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CattleArmy said:
jigs said:
we have a truck driver in every Monday. he is a native of South Africa. his stories of equality and re-distribution......

how the white farmers were booted for the blacks, and now there is nothing but weeds on the farm. he is very upset with the way our country is operating....he says we are at the beginning of the end. he says the USA is on the same path as South Africa, and it will be the downfall of this nation.

there is no Robin Hood! there is nothing wrong with profit. prosperity is a good thing.

do these welfare kings and queens know that their bread is buttered by these horrible wealthy property owners?? re-distribution will only make life worse for them.

liberals love to hand out fish........while the conservatives want to teach a person to fish!

Do conservatives want to teach the person to fish or beat them with a stick until they conform to the right way to fish their way? :???:

some people are slow learners....the beating may make it easier to get through to them
 

Steve

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Jigs:
liberals love to hand out fish........while the conservatives want to teach a person to fish!


CattleArmy:
Do conservatives want to teach the person to fish or beat them with a stick until they conform to the right way to fish their way?

Liberals do not want to support thier ideals, they want conservatives forced to support them....

Lets see, if I want to give my money away it is charitable....

A liberal wants to make me give my money away in the form of a tax....

If I don't give my money away, no one can force me to be charitable..

But, if I don't pay the tax forced on me by the liberals, I can go to jail and lose lose every thing I own.


well,..CattleArmy,...Who is forcing who?
 
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