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Cattle Producers Endorse Proposed Traceback Bill

Sandhusker

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There is no way to knowing all your questions unless the source on contamination can be traced. The first step to fixing any contamination problem is finding where the product got contaminated. Some packers may in fact be doing a very good job of keeping the product clean. In that case, the ones who aren't can learn from them. Until we have a trace back, there is no way knowing who's the example and who needs to go to school.

Did you read the packers provision of the farm bill that I provided for you? Are you going to ask some questions from your leadership or just send in your dues again?
 

PORKER

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Some packers may in fact be doing a very good job of keeping the product clean. In that case, the ones who aren't can learn from them. Until we have a trace back, there is no way knowing who's the example and who needs to go to school.

DITTO!!!!!!!
 

Shaft

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27.feb.08

The Plain Dealer

http://www.cleveland.com/living/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/living-1/1204018442153120.xml&coll=2

Retailers have a stake in food safety and what happens with the nation's largest-ever beef recall, say four area businesses.

Tom Heinen, co-owner of Heinen's Fine Foods, the Cleveland-based, 17-store chain of supermarkets, says representatives from his stores make periodic visits to the sources of their beef, which they market as free of antibiotics and hormones.

"We look at how they treat their animals as well as process [them]," says Heinen. Heinen's does not purchase from Westland/Hallmark, the California-based company involved in the most recent recall, but from smaller processors: Meyer Natural Angus of Helmville, Mont., and PM Beef of Windom, Minn.

"There isn't a big secret when you go through a plant, whether they're doing things right. Because it's so important to their track record, and their profit," Heinen says.

Kimberly Pupillo, a Giant Eagle spokeswoman, says in an e-mail that the chain did not buy any of the recalled meat. In a separate e-mail exchange, Dan Donovan, another Giant Eagle spokesman, states: "As a retailer, we work only with suppliers who demonstrate a track record of food safety and adherence to and/or outperformance of all USDA guidelines."


You know, that all sounds remarkably like common sense to me (Porker please confirm). Could it be that maybe, just maybe, the retailers, packers and producers all have an interest in common here? "E pluribus unum" ring a bell?

SH, you make a good point about getting the vaccinations down to two to achieve the same level of protection currently afforded by three. One would be better but unlikely in a non-live vaccine. My guess is that the timing/age at innoculation would be a big factor. Clearly needs more work. if everybody could agree to play nice in the sandbox, and push the Feds to throw some money at the problem, E. coli O157:H7 has every possibility of going the way of smallpox.
 

RobertMac

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Best I can figure, 0157:H7 didn't show up until sometime in the 80s...at least in the food chain making people sick.
Where did it come from?
What changed?
Why is it here?

Find the cause and eliminate it. Killing a pathogen that is continually being created because we don't stop the cause is going to make the drug companies money and let the sloppy be sloppy until the next pathogen or the mutated, vaccine resistant version comes....0157:H8??????
 

Shaft

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"Disease control. The inaccuracy of the system and its slowness has shown that it would be of little use in an outbreak of exotic disease. We are supposed to inform the database of any movement of any cattle off our ranches, including to another pasture. Very few are doing it. NLIS couldn’t track a bleeding elephant through a snowfield."
......

"I phoned the Canadian ID Agency on Monday (Feb. 18, 2008). I was told that their system of informing on stock movement is still voluntary and that few producers send in cattle movements to the agency, as they (the producers) are not computer literate! This fact was obvious to ‘Blind Freddy’ in Australia and was uncovered in the EU trials. You can have the best computer database system in the world but it is garbage in garbage out."

Oh well, another beautiful theory ruined by harsh reality. Apparently the system needs work.
 

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