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Cheny/Oil Execs War?

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Anonymous

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Judicial Watch seems to think there could be some meaning and importance to these recently "court ordered released" maps of Iraq oil fields and Iraqui oil contracts that were used in Cheney's super secret meetings with the oil industry (that he refuses to release notes or documents from)...These occurred way back in 2001- pre 9/11...

Did neocon Cheney and the oil industry execs (which he also refuses to name) that he met with in those socalled "energy" conferences use that time to prepare for the Iraq war :???:
I guess each will have to decide on their own-but from the facts, falsehoods, and M.O. that is leaking out of the White House- I'd have to say its definitely possible... :( :( :( :mad:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/oil-field-maps
 
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Oldtimer said:
Judicial Watch seems to think there could be some meaning and importance to these recently "court ordered released" maps of Iraq oil fields and Iraqui oil contracts that were used in Cheney's super secret meetings with the oil industry (that he refuses to release notes or documents from)...These occurred way back in 2001- pre 9/11...

Did neocon Cheney and the oil industry execs (which he also refuses to name) that he met with in those socalled "energy" conferences use that time to prepare for the Iraq war :???:
I guess each will have to decide on their own-but from the facts, falsehoods, and M.O. that is leaking out of the White House- I'd have to say its definitely possible... :( :( :( :mad:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/oil-field-maps

I believe the answer to your question is absolutely yes. Dick Cheney's heart was racing so fast yesterday with the news of the projected long term occupation agreement with the Iraqis that he had to make a trip to the hospital. It was about the oil all along. :mad:
 

Texan

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Not just Iraq - that link also has maps and major projects for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. How do they fit in to your conspiracy?
 
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Texan said:
Not just Iraq - that link also has maps and major projects for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. How do they fit in to your conspiracy?

I would think they should be worried- except for the fact that we keep their royal family in place now with our military power- and as long as they don't send too many 9/11ers over and we do their fighting for them, and US taxpayers pay the costs of taking care of their adversaries while they become Billionaires, they will just remain copasetic........While they and the UAE, Kuwait, China etal buy up more of the US at Bush's bargain basement sale prices :( :( :mad:

I have only one question-- why in a country thats supposed to have transparent and open government-- has the Vice President of the United States refused to release any documents- or even the names of the persons he met with with relating to the Energy policy meetings- without those that have so far been court ordered :???:

That there tells me a lot!!!! :( :( :( :mad:
 

Tex

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Oldtimer said:
Texan said:
Not just Iraq - that link also has maps and major projects for Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. How do they fit in to your conspiracy?

I would think they should be worried- except for the fact that we keep their royal family in place now with our military power- and as long as they don't send too many 9/11ers over and we do their fighting for them, and US taxpayers pay the costs of taking care of their adversaries they will just remain copasetic........While they and the UAE, Kuwait, China etal buy up more of the US at Bush's bargain basement sale prices :( :( :mad:

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Texan

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It would have been irresponsible and incompetent for the Vice-President to have an energy task force that did NOT discuss the country that is number two in the world with proven oil reserves. Wouldn't it?
 

Tex

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Texan said:
It would have been irresponsible and incompetent for the Vice-President to have an energy task force that did NOT discuss the country that is number two in the world with proven oil reserves. Wouldn't it?

Yes, but it wasn't okay to put in place the plans for war, take it over and manipulate govt. intelligence to do it.
 

Texan

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Tex said:
Texan said:
It would have been irresponsible and incompetent for the Vice-President to have an energy task force that did NOT discuss the country that is number two in the world with proven oil reserves. Wouldn't it?

Yes, but it wasn't okay to put in place the plans for war, take it over and manipulate govt. intelligence to do it.
I guess I missed that news about the Vice-President's Energy Task Force planning the war and then taking it over. Do you have a link? I sure would like to read up on that. :lol:
 

kolanuraven

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http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/8.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/15/AR2005111501842.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/17/AR2007071701987.html?hpid=topnews

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4830129/


etc...etc...etc....etc.....
 

MoGal

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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9112.htm

Here's another article - whether one believes its authenticity is up to the individual.

That site has quite a bit on it and I mostly go there to read Mike Whitneys articles (and the remarks which helps one learn more).
 

Texan

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Thanks for the links, ladies. I don't think anybody is disputing the existence of the Vice-President's Energy Task Force. But...I'm not finding anything in any of those links about that group planning the war and then taking it over. Am I just missing it?
 

Tex

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Texan said:
Tex said:
Texan said:
It would have been irresponsible and incompetent for the Vice-President to have an energy task force that did NOT discuss the country that is number two in the world with proven oil reserves. Wouldn't it?

Yes, but it wasn't okay to put in place the plans for war, take it over and manipulate govt. intelligence to do it.
I guess I missed that news about the Vice-President's Energy Task Force planning the war and then taking it over. Do you have a link? I sure would like to read up on that. :lol:

I think that when playing connect the dots, you have to actually connect the dots in order to see the picture. Even my 7 year old knows that.
 

Texan

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Tex said:
Texan said:
I guess I missed that news about the Vice-President's Energy Task Force planning the war and then taking it over. Do you have a link? I sure would like to read up on that. :lol:

I think that when playing connect the dots, you have to actually connect the dots in order to see the picture. Even my 7 year old knows that.
No link, huh? :lol:
 
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Tex said:
Texan said:
Tex said:
Yes, but it wasn't okay to put in place the plans for war, take it over and manipulate govt. intelligence to do it.
I guess I missed that news about the Vice-President's Energy Task Force planning the war and then taking it over. Do you have a link? I sure would like to read up on that. :lol:

I think that when playing connect the dots, you have to actually connect the dots in order to see the picture. Even my 7 year old knows that.

But that takes independent thinking- and openmindedness- which we keep being told on here belongs only to the Liberals/Democrats....

If der Führer doesn't say its so- it didn't happen :wink: :roll: :( :( :(
 

Texan

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Oldtimer said:
But that takes independent thinking- and openmindedness- which we keep being told on here belongs only to the Liberals/Democrats....
You're a judge, right? What do you do when people make accusations that they can't prove? Do you pat 'em on the back and call that 'independent thinking' and 'openmindedness'? :???:
 

passin thru

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thats the thing about some libs.................they confuse their belief they are being openminded to really being an airhead. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ya think a seven year old could educate an "openminded" person what a link is :shock:
 

MoGal

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Here's a hollering that we need to ascend our "global responsibilities".... back in 1997

http://www.bakerinstitute.org/Pubs/BI_policyreport_3.pdf


Texan I have dial up and its timing out on me so I can't open the link .... go about third of the way down on the page

http://tvnewslies.org/html/cheney_s_secrets.html

U.S. ENERGY POLICIES UNDER BUSH & CHENEY
and then the article about an inch below it.... maybe that will have something to which you are referring to. Not sure though.
Did I say how much I love dial up?..... Not!
 
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Texan said:
Oldtimer said:
But that takes independent thinking- and openmindedness- which we keep being told on here belongs only to the Liberals/Democrats....
You're a judge, right? What do you do when people make accusations that they can't prove? Do you pat 'em on the back and call that 'independent thinking' and 'openmindedness'? :???:

One of the things I always preached to the guys that worked for me-- don't always go with what appears obvious, or what someone tells you happened- stay open minded and look for other possibilities- and determine the weight of the" stories" by the facts provided and the credibility of those involved ...

In this case the credibility of those involved have numerous times over in the last few years been shown to not be there- while they have also done everything in their power to not only "hide" what was discussed- but even who was there while it was discussed.... This puts the weight of the Bush/Cheney reasons at about 0....

The minutes/notes/details of an energy policy, and those involved- discussed on the US taxpayers dollar should be open to the public- and as citizens/taxpayers we shouldn't have to have groups like the Judicial Watch going thru a FOIA to even get bits and pieces- while the participant corporate neocons and majority of the details are still kept "Super Secret" under Lord Cheney's classification.....

What are they hiding by not releasing all the details and participants :???:
 

Steve

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OldTimer
don't always go with what appears obvious, or what someone tells you happened- stay open minded and look for other possibilities-

Hmmm.. You might have a point if you weren't jumping to conclusions.. :? :?
 

Steve

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OldTimer
What are they hiding by not releasing all the details and participants

On July 18, 2007, the Washington Post reported the names of those involved in the Task Force, "representatives of 13 environmental groups" ""In all, about 300 groups and individuals met with staff members of the energy task force,"

"Cheney was not there, but so many environmentalists were in the room that introductions took up "about half the meeting," recalled Erich Pica of Friends of the Earth. Anna Aurilio of the U.S. Public Interest Group said, "It was clear to us that they were just being nice to us."


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