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Chicago Surge?

Cal

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Will Obama Support Chicago Surge? Hometown Death Toll Double Iraq's
By Mark Finkelstein
Created 2008-09-05 11:20
Barack Obama famously refused to support the surge in Iraq, claiming it would "make things worse [1]." Events have of course proved him very wrong, as Obama had to admit [2]to Bill O'Reilly. Now that he's acknowledged the efficacy of a surge, will he call for one . . . in his own hometown?

As per this item [3][via Drudge] from the CBS affiliate in Chicago:


An estimated 123 people were shot and killed over the summer. That's nearly double the number of soldiers killed in Iraq over the same time period.

So how about it? Will some enterprising MSM member ask Obama if he'll call for a police surge to protect the lives of his own Illinois constitutents?



Source URL:
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2008/09/05/will-obama-support-chicago-surge-hometown-death-toll-double-iraqs
 

nonothing

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I do not understand some of you people here.First The black folk are just lazy good for nothings in New Orleans...Now the Blacks in are Chicago are Corrupt....Some of you even use slang to poke fun at these people,Yet you bang the drum for GW Bush....This is starting to look race based to me....The way some of you come across in here looks like you do not like obama because of the color of his skin....I am sure you could find alot of white corruption if you looked a little bit in washington,but yet you defend those white guys.As I said,some of you flip floppers I just do not understand...
 

nonothing

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Larrry said:
Send in the community organizers, I know of one that will be lookin for a job come Nov, if not sooner

No I do not think they will let go of palin,she really is the conservatives best chance to win .....so it will probably be in november,not sooner......
 

Larrry

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Leave it up a lib to try and play the race card. You know they are runnin on an empty tank when they come up with the race card.
 

nonothing

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Larrry said:
Leave it up a lib to try and play the race card. You know they are runnin on an empty tank when they come up with the race card.

Just an observation Larry of what has been written here by some of the folks....Call it what you want,it seems to be what happens here...If you want to deny it thats ok but leave it to a consevative to attack the writer rather then defend the statements...
 

Larrry

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I don't go through every post, maybe it happens but I can tell you there are many liberal posts that are racist and sexist.
I did not say anything racist so do not throw that around and hope it sticks. Just remember if you are going to be fair call it both ways or otherwise you will be labeled a hypocrite.
 

Steve

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Philadelphia murders, last year 392, the year before 406,.. so they tried a surge..

In Philadelphia, one of the most prominent countermeasures this year was focused in Southwest Philadelphia’s 12th Police District after a spike in homicides last winter. In March, the police deployed an additional 80 veteran officers to the district, and the heightened force has remained in place, said Grace, the mayor’s spokesman.

The result, he said, is that the 12th District has reported a 10.6 percent decrease in violent crime this year, outpacing the citywide drop. Shootings in the district were down almost 38 percent from last year - nearly three times the citywide rate.

While it is working, sadly Philadelphia just added another body to their total tonight.. ..
 

Steve

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nonothing said:
Larrry said:
Leave it up a lib to try and play the race card. You know they are runnin on an empty tank when they come up with the race card.

Just an observation Larry of what has been written here by some of the folks....Call it what you want,it seems to be what happens here...If you want to deny it thats ok but leave it to a consevative to attack the writer rather then defend the statements...

Often the numbers of the murders in the cities is spoken about when the annual report comes out. otherwise most of us ignore the scope of the problem..

Should everyone just ignore the crime in our cities because a large portion of the crimes are committed by minorities?

Would it be acceptable for blacks to be excused of the murders they commit as long as we can further race relations..

To avoid looking at a desperate situation and avoid addressing the problem.. black leaders ignore the problem.. they get votes and then move on to higher offices.. then they move to better neighborhoods.. and then they forget about the problems they were elected to fix..

Obama is no different when it comes to ignoring the plight of his neighborhood,.. when the houses he helped get renovated as a community organizer fell apart he was already gone.. when the projects he helped win millions in funding for was squandered, he was already gone.. he didn't look back in disgust.. no he took most of the "friends" on as staff at his campaign..

it is that same ignoring that created the crime ridden city.. sure he meant well, so did every one else before him.. and that replaced him.. but the problem still exits and is worse..

so how are we to act.. like it is acceptable?.. just part of reality.. sorry barrack couldn't fix it so it must not exist..

no the fact is he didn't leave it any better then it was before..

so if it's racist to say the cities are crime ridden and high numbers of murder is a problem.. then we have a serious problem.. because if it keeps getting ignored it will never get solved..

"astonishing murder rate that is occurring under Barack Obama's Senate leadership, in his hometown of Chicago." is only racist if you think the murders are acceptable.. I don't.

but to be fair, maybe you could show a US city with predominately white leaders that has a higher murder rate..
 

nonothing

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Steve said:
nonothing said:
Larrry said:
Leave it up a lib to try and play the race card. You know they are runnin on an empty tank when they come up with the race card.

Just an observation Larry of what has been written here by some of the folks....Call it what you want,it seems to be what happens here...If you want to deny it thats ok but leave it to a consevative to attack the writer rather then defend the statements...

Often the numbers of the murders in the cities is spoken about when the annual report comes out. otherwise most of us ignore the scope of the problem..

Should everyone just ignore the crime in our cities because a large portion of the crimes are committed by minorities?

Would it be acceptable for blacks to be excused of the murders they commit as long as we can further race relations..

To avoid looking at a desperate situation and avoid addressing the problem.. black leaders ignore the problem.. they get votes and then move on to higher offices.. then they move to better neighborhoods.. and then they forget about the problems they were elected to fix..

Obama is no different when it comes to ignoring the plight of his neighborhood,.. when the houses he helped get renovated as a community organizer fell apart he was already gone.. when the projects he helped win millions in funding for was squandered, he was already gone.. he didn't look back in disgust.. no he took most of the "friends" on as staff at his campaign..

it is that same ignoring that created the crime ridden city.. sure he meant well, so did every one else before him.. and that replaced him.. but the problem still exits and is worse..

so how are we to act.. like it is acceptable?.. just part of reality.. sorry barrack couldn't fix it so it must not exist..

no the fact is he didn't leave it any better then it was before..

so if it's racist to say the cities are crime ridden and high numbers of murder is a problem.. then we have a serious problem.. because if it keeps getting ignored it will never get solved..

"astonishing murder rate that is occurring under Barack Obama's Senate leadership, in his hometown of Chicago." is only racist if you think the murders are acceptable.. I don't.

but to be fair, maybe you could show a US city with predominately white leaders that has a higher murder rate..

First off the biggest issue in any crime driven society is drugs.....secound is unemployement....Third is education...It is not about what color you are .there are white people falling into these cracks more and more each day....Instead of looking for reasons to blame,why not look for reasons to help....If one idea fails, try another...Drugs are the down fall of many american people and thier families....Many laff at ideas like clean injection sites....but it gets people in to an arera that if they want help with addiction they can get that help.It keeps disease and crime down..It offers hope and insight.it takes the ugliness of life off the streets...Yet nobody wants that in thier neighbor hood...Cold turkey wont wont work...

Anyways I digress ...
 

nonothing

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Larrry said:
I don't go through every post, maybe it happens but I can tell you there are many liberal posts that are racist and sexist.
I did not say anything racist so do not throw that around and hope it sticks. Just remember if you are going to be fair call it both ways or otherwise you will be labeled a hypocrite.

Label me what ever you want..I see what I see,as do you ..I never said your name nor anyone else's..You do not have to go through post's to know about the negative writtings and comments made by people here regaurding New Orleans and now chicgo..
 

Ben H

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nobody said anything about race, the lib made that conjecture. What party was it that ended slavery? Oh that's right, it was the Republicans. The democrats thought the blacks were inferior then, now they think the angry white man clinging to his religion and guns is inferior.

I, like every other person who has served, swore to protect this country against all enemies forgein and DOMESTIC. The progressives are a direct threat on the constitution with their ant-capitalist socialist agenda. They can try and erode the constitution by using political corectness against the first amendment and their "common sense" laws against the second, We're on to you and your agenda, you will be stopped. Fortunately they are destroying the media themselves.

I don't dislike all democrats and liberals, just the far left ones that call themselves "Progressives", the true marxists. Ok, got a little off track.
 

Larrry

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Ben you are right.
I see the progressives seeing the success in their rein as how much moneu they can dole out. So then little miss hot pants can jump in the bed with every good for nothing bum as neither are working and they know if she has a kid the gov is their with their pocket book open. The gov has replaced DADDY and then you have no guidance. So what the heck Jr. starts the cycle over of getting his daddy's(gov) child support.
 

Sandhusker

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nonothing said:
Larrry said:
I don't go through every post, maybe it happens but I can tell you there are many liberal posts that are racist and sexist.
I did not say anything racist so do not throw that around and hope it sticks. Just remember if you are going to be fair call it both ways or otherwise you will be labeled a hypocrite.

Label me what ever you want..I see what I see,as do you ..I never said your name nor anyone else's..You do not have to go through post's to know about the negative writtings and comments made by people here regaurding New Orleans and now chicgo..

Yes, but are they true?
 

Juan

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nonothing said:
I do not understand some of you people here.First The black folk are just lazy good for nothings in New Orleans...Now the Blacks in are Chicago are Corrupt....Some of you even use slang to poke fun at these people,Yet you bang the drum for GW Bush....This is starting to look race based to me....The way some of you come across in here looks like you do not like obama because of the color of his skin....I am sure you could find alot of white corruption if you looked a little bit in washington,but yet you defend those white guys.As I said,some of you flip floppers I just do not understand...

Yo dog man yoi s so rat muz be fum de hood.We jez luv diss an thats the truff.
 

Ben H

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Ben Franklin said something along the lines of "make people in poverty uncomfortable so they will fight to get out of it" I'm not going to take the time to look up exactly what it was he said, but that's the idea.
 

Steve

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nonothing said:
Steve said:
nonothing said:
Just an observation Larry of what has been written here by some of the folks....Call it what you want,it seems to be what happens here...If you want to deny it thats ok but leave it to a consevative to attack the writer rather then defend the statements...

Often the numbers of the murders in the cities is spoken about when the annual report comes out. otherwise most of us ignore the scope of the problem..

Should everyone just ignore the crime in our cities because a large portion of the crimes are committed by minorities?

Would it be acceptable for blacks to be excused of the murders they commit as long as we can further race relations..

To avoid looking at a desperate situation and avoid addressing the problem.. black leaders ignore the problem.. they get votes and then move on to higher offices.. then they move to better neighborhoods.. and then they forget about the problems they were elected to fix..

Obama is no different when it comes to ignoring the plight of his neighborhood,.. when the houses he helped get renovated as a community organizer fell apart he was already gone.. when the projects he helped win millions in funding for was squandered, he was already gone.. he didn't look back in disgust.. no he took most of the "friends" on as staff at his campaign..

it is that same ignoring that created the crime ridden city.. sure he meant well, so did every one else before him.. and that replaced him.. but the problem still exits and is worse..

so how are we to act.. like it is acceptable?.. just part of reality.. sorry barrack couldn't fix it so it must not exist..

no the fact is he didn't leave it any better then it was before..

so if it's racist to say the cities are crime ridden and high numbers of murder is a problem.. then we have a serious problem.. because if it keeps getting ignored it will never get solved..

"astonishing murder rate that is occurring under Barack Obama's Senate leadership, in his hometown of Chicago." is only racist if you think the murders are acceptable.. I don't.

but to be fair, maybe you could show a US city with predominately white leaders that has a higher murder rate..

First off the biggest issue in any crime driven society is drugs.....second is unemployment....Third is education...It is not about what color you are .there are white people falling into these cracks more and more each day....Instead of looking for reasons to blame,why not look for reasons to help....If one idea fails, try another...Drugs are the down fall of many American people and their families....Many laff at ideas like clean injection sites....but it gets people in to an arena that if they want help with addiction they can get that help.It keeps disease and crime down..It offers hope and insight.it takes the ugliness of life off the streets...Yet nobody wants that in their neighbor hood...Cold turkey wont wont work...

Anyways I digress ...

is it drugs or apathy with their situation.. many inner cities have no hope.. they are used by their "leaders" (often black leaders) and then left behind..

Even if no one argues what comes first the hopelessness. or the crimes.. the black leadership in many cities has failed.. ghettos are worse.. they are now just called inner cities.. drugs are worse. crimes are up poverty is worse, how bad must the failure be before some one sees that Barack didn't help his community as an organizer, as a state legislature, or as a senator..
 

nonothing

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Steve I respect your views but I do not always share them...I never played a race card I just called it as I see it here...If you need more proof of how some of the conservative folks are like here ,you can see Jaun's post in this thread or go to political bull index and look at the thread titled "How to bribe Obama"....This is the point I am making...this bribe thread has nothing to do with obama's leadership skills at all....and if I was you and you consider yourself an up standing conservative, I would type in that thread not in defence of it but in defiance...It just goes to show the real reason some here do not like Obama and its to bad it has to come down to that...
 

Ben H

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I don't care what color he is, he's half white for what it's worth. I don't like him because he's a socialist/marxist and will destroy the country by killing free enterprise, elminating the desire to succeed and putting the government in charge in distributing your wealth, not you. He also wants to create a youth corps that will be indoctrinated to be the foot soldiers in the progressive movement.
 
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