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Children and politics

MsSage

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Children need to be left OUT of politics. That includes their parents using them to make statements.

Very appropriate ~~ trust Malia to make a political fashion statement!
Miss Obama's peacenik T-shirt sends a message to G8 leaders

By Charlotte Spratt
Last updated at 5:27 PM on 09th July 2009


Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons. And Barack Obama's eldest daughter was obviously keen to make her own statement on the issue - even if it was merely a fashion statement.
Just 48 hours after the U.S. President signed agreements with Russian president Dmitry Medvedev to reduce weapon stores, 11-year-old Malia Obama was spotted wearing not one, but two T-shirts with an anti-nuclear message. She wore the tops emblazoned with the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament's famous logo as her father prepared for three days of G8 talks in Italy.
First there was a grey T-shirt bearing the CND logo to visit the Colosseum in Rome with her mother Michelle and seven-year-old sister Sasha. Then during the visit she swapped it for a mottled white and grey top also bearing the logo.
The symbol, designed for the CND in 1958, is now widely used to signify peace and is also an international sign for anti-war protesters.
 
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MsSage said:
Children need to be left OUT of politics. That includes their parents using them to make statements.

Very appropriate ~~ trust Malia to make a political fashion statement!
Miss Obama's peacenik T-shirt sends a message to G8 leaders

By Charlotte Spratt
Last updated at 5:27 PM on 09th July 2009


Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons. And Barack Obama's eldest daughter was obviously keen to make her own statement on the issue - even if it was merely a fashion statement.
Just 48 hours after the U.S. President signed agreements with Russian president Dmitry Medvedev to reduce weapon stores, 11-year-old Malia Obama was spotted wearing not one, but two T-shirts with an anti-nuclear message. She wore the tops emblazoned with the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament's famous logo as her father prepared for three days of G8 talks in Italy.
First there was a grey T-shirt bearing the CND logo to visit the Colosseum in Rome with her mother Michelle and seven-year-old sister Sasha. Then during the visit she swapped it for a mottled white and grey top also bearing the logo.
The symbol, designed for the CND in 1958, is now widely used to signify peace and is also an international sign for anti-war protesters.

Yep- we wouldn't want to bring up our kids believing in or (God forbid) promoting PEACE... Thats so anti Christian and all :roll: :wink: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
MsSage said:
Children need to be left OUT of politics. That includes their parents using them to make statements.

Very appropriate ~~ trust Malia to make a political fashion statement!
Miss Obama's peacenik T-shirt sends a message to G8 leaders

By Charlotte Spratt
Last updated at 5:27 PM on 09th July 2009


Her father had just won agreement from the Russians to cut back on the world's stockpiles of nuclear weapons. And Barack Obama's eldest daughter was obviously keen to make her own statement on the issue - even if it was merely a fashion statement.
Just 48 hours after the U.S. President signed agreements with Russian president Dmitry Medvedev to reduce weapon stores, 11-year-old Malia Obama was spotted wearing not one, but two T-shirts with an anti-nuclear message. She wore the tops emblazoned with the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament's famous logo as her father prepared for three days of G8 talks in Italy.
First there was a grey T-shirt bearing the CND logo to visit the Colosseum in Rome with her mother Michelle and seven-year-old sister Sasha. Then during the visit she swapped it for a mottled white and grey top also bearing the logo.
The symbol, designed for the CND in 1958, is now widely used to signify peace and is also an international sign for anti-war protesters.

Yep- we wouldn't want to bring up our kids believing in or (God forbid) promoting PEACE... Thats so anti Christian and all :roll: :wink: :roll: :roll: :roll:

This has nothing to do with "Peace", Fatman. :roll:

To most of us it's about a agreement that Buckwheat has entered into with the Soviets that will not keep up their end of the bargain.

Just like Jimmah Cahta parking all those B-52's and dismantling them in the open so that the Russians could get satellite pictures of their destruction..................while they continued to stockpile weapons. :roll:
 

alice

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Maybe Malia wanted to wear these shirts. She's old enough to be learning and forming opinions about the world and the different politics of the world.

When I was her age my parents insisted on talking about the world and world politics, and encouraged me and my brother and sister to think for ourselves. And before you neocons take your shots, my parents were staunch Republicans/Conservatives...and we all would go round and round as we got older...and we were NEVER belittled for what we thought.

Alice
 

VanC

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Personally, I don't see anything terribly wrong with this. Children, especially children that young, are usually going to reflect the views of their parents. That's fine. But there is a fine line here that the Obama's need to be careful not to cross. It wasn't that long ago that Sarah Palin was accused of using her children as props during the 2008 campaign. That, in turn, was used by many as justification for the vile, hateful things that were said about them. You know......the old "put them in the public eye and they're fair game" trick. Sadly, there are those out there that would like nothing better than to do the same thing to the Obama's children. I'm sure most of us would hate to see that. I respect the fact that the President and First Lady are protective of their children and want to keep their lives as private as possible, but they need to be very careful with such things.
 

aplusmnt

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VanC said:
Personally, I don't see anything terribly wrong with this. Children, especially children that young, are usually going to reflect the views of their parents. That's fine. But there is a fine line here that the Obama's need to be careful not to cross. It wasn't that long ago that Sarah Palin was accused of using her children as props during the 2008 campaign. That, in turn, was used by many as justification for the vile, hateful things that were said about them. You know......the old "put them in the public eye and they're fair game" trick. Sadly, there are those out there that would like nothing better than to do the same thing to the Obama's children. I'm sure most of us would hate to see that. I respect the fact that the President and First Lady are protective of their children and want to keep their lives as private as possible, but they need to be very careful with such things.

First thing I thought was now is Obama's daughter fair game for political debate.

As a parent sometimes you have to tell a kid to go change their clothes or better yet just not buy them certain things. As President I think this was one of them times.

Not smart parenting in my opinion!
 

alice

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aplusmnt said:
VanC said:
Personally, I don't see anything terribly wrong with this. Children, especially children that young, are usually going to reflect the views of their parents. That's fine. But there is a fine line here that the Obama's need to be careful not to cross. It wasn't that long ago that Sarah Palin was accused of using her children as props during the 2008 campaign. That, in turn, was used by many as justification for the vile, hateful things that were said about them. You know......the old "put them in the public eye and they're fair game" trick. Sadly, there are those out there that would like nothing better than to do the same thing to the Obama's children. I'm sure most of us would hate to see that. I respect the fact that the President and First Lady are protective of their children and want to keep their lives as private as possible, but they need to be very careful with such things.

First thing I thought was now is Obama's daughter fair game for political debate.

As a parent sometimes you have to tell a kid to go change their clothes or better yet just not buy them certain things. As President I think this was one of them times.

Not smart parenting in my opinion!

Oh, poor parenting my foot. What's the press gonna say...Malia wore a T-Shirt that supported her father? Malia wore a T-Shirt promoting world peace? I personally understand Malia's wish to wear that shirt...I support her decision...and I support the Obama's decision for allowing her to wear it and make her statement.

And, Aplus, if someone like you were to come along and make a snide remark about it, I have an idea that she'd know how to handle it...because she hasn't been totally sheltered from from unkind remarks by people that enjoy saying ugly, hateful things about her father and mother. If nothing else, those kids are gonna be strong and resilient and capable of making their OWN way in this world.

Alice
 

jodywy

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Took the kids back to Californa a few years back on hunting break(fall vacation is what its called now)to see thier great grandma. One morning we were going to play tourist and drive up the Russin river , see the red wood > I was reading the local paper about a large protest the night before for Mike Sheppard. Kids came out in thier U of Wyo sweat shrits... We quickly had then change for the day.
 

aplusmnt

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alice said:
aplusmnt said:
VanC said:
Personally, I don't see anything terribly wrong with this. Children, especially children that young, are usually going to reflect the views of their parents. That's fine. But there is a fine line here that the Obama's need to be careful not to cross. It wasn't that long ago that Sarah Palin was accused of using her children as props during the 2008 campaign. That, in turn, was used by many as justification for the vile, hateful things that were said about them. You know......the old "put them in the public eye and they're fair game" trick. Sadly, there are those out there that would like nothing better than to do the same thing to the Obama's children. I'm sure most of us would hate to see that. I respect the fact that the President and First Lady are protective of their children and want to keep their lives as private as possible, but they need to be very careful with such things.

First thing I thought was now is Obama's daughter fair game for political debate.

As a parent sometimes you have to tell a kid to go change their clothes or better yet just not buy them certain things. As President I think this was one of them times.

Not smart parenting in my opinion!

Oh, poor parenting my foot. What's the press gonna say...Malia wore a T-Shirt that supported her father? Malia wore a T-Shirt promoting world peace? I personally understand Malia's wish to wear that shirt...I support her decision...and I support the Obama's decision for allowing her to wear it and make her statement.

And, Aplus, if someone like you were to come along and make a snide remark about it, I have an idea that she'd know how to handle it...because she hasn't been totally sheltered from from unkind remarks by people that enjoy saying ugly, hateful things about her father and mother. If nothing else, those kids are gonna be strong and resilient and capable of making their OWN way in this world.

Alice

11 year olds do not need to be wearing political statement T-shirts. I would not let my 11 year old wear a Conservative shirt. 11 year olds need not be worrying about politics to that extent.

And you are crazy if you think this girl has not been sheltered, she has been raised in a far left liberal bubble. But most likely she has no idea what that shirt means some publicist probably bought it for her so daddy could get some brownie points in Europe.

As far as how she will grow up, odds are she will be like all the other far left loon kids that were raised by elitist parents that promote socialism an welfare. You know live on daddy's money her whole life!
 

aplusmnt

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hillsdown said:
What would you say if she was wearing a t-shirt that said :
"NUKE THEM ALL!! especially Afghanistan !!"

:lol: :wink:

We know what she would say, liberals are hypocrites.......it has been showed on here many times!
 

MsSage

Well-known member
I support her decision
She is not mature enough to make that decision. She does not understand all the ramifications of the statement she was making where she was.
If your saying she is mature enough, then SHE can answer for her wearing something that can be construted as divsional.
 

alice

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
alice said:
aplusmnt said:
First thing I thought was now is Obama's daughter fair game for political debate.

As a parent sometimes you have to tell a kid to go change their clothes or better yet just not buy them certain things. As President I think this was one of them times.

Not smart parenting in my opinion!

Oh, poor parenting my foot. What's the press gonna say...Malia wore a T-Shirt that supported her father? Malia wore a T-Shirt promoting world peace? I personally understand Malia's wish to wear that shirt...I support her decision...and I support the Obama's decision for allowing her to wear it and make her statement.

And, Aplus, if someone like you were to come along and make a snide remark about it, I have an idea that she'd know how to handle it...because she hasn't been totally sheltered from from unkind remarks by people that enjoy saying ugly, hateful things about her father and mother. If nothing else, those kids are gonna be strong and resilient and capable of making their OWN way in this world.

Alice

11 year olds do not need to be wearing political statement T-shirts. I would not let my 11 year old wear a Conservative shirt. 11 year olds need not be worrying about politics to that extent.

And you are crazy if you think this girl has not been sheltered, she has been raised in a far left liberal bubble. But most likely she has no idea what that shirt means some publicist probably bought it for her so daddy could get some brownie points in Europe.

As far as how she will grow up, odds are she will be like all the other far left loon kids that were raised by elitist parents that promote socialism an welfare. You know live on daddy's money her whole life!

Horse shite!

Alice
 

alice

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MsSage said:
I support her decision
She is not mature enough to make that decision. She does not understand all the ramifications of the statement she was making where she was.
If your saying she is mature enough, then SHE can answer for her wearing something that can be construted as divsional.

How do you know how mature she is? You couldn't possibly. AND, SHE could very well answer any question asked her about it...and handle any kind of bull shite remark made about it.

Tell me, who are the ones that will make a crappy remark? I'll tell ya' who...people like you that salivate over any little thing that might be construed as a useful weapon against her parents....anything that can be turned into something negative. My daughter learned to disregard angry, hateful, thwarted people when she was young, as did I and my brother and sister. She learned to stand up for what she believed and to IGNORE hateful comments and snide remarks flung at her...and she is teaching her children the same.

Alice
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
MsSage said:
I support her decision
She is not mature enough to make that decision. She does not understand all the ramifications of the statement she was making where she was.
If your saying she is mature enough, then SHE can answer for her wearing something that can be construted as divsional.

She was not even responsible enough to have a dog until a couple months ago. But now she can make decisions about Nukes and Peace on her own. :roll:
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
alice said:
MsSage said:
I support her decision
She is not mature enough to make that decision. She does not understand all the ramifications of the statement she was making where she was.
If your saying she is mature enough, then SHE can answer for her wearing something that can be construted as divsional.

How do you know how mature she is? You couldn't possibly. AND, SHE could very well answer any question asked her about it...and handle any kind of bull shite remark made about it.

Tell me, who are the ones that will make a crappy remark? I'll tell ya' who...people like you that salivate over any little thing that might be construed as a useful weapon against her parents....anything that can be turned into something negative. My daughter learned to disregard angry, hateful, thwarted people when she was young, as did I and my brother and sister. She learned to stand up for what she believed and to IGNORE hateful comments and snide remarks flung at her...and she is teaching her children the same.

Alice

If you are old enough to wear a political statement shirt then you should be old enought to handle any crap that comes your way!

You are an idiot if you think a 11 year old can emotionally handle that kind of spot light on her!

Seems the Obama's are against their kids being in the public eye unless it serves their purpose. This is not the first time they have put them out in front of the public for their own publicity!

Sounds like parents pimping out their kids to me!
 

alice

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
MsSage said:
I support her decision
She is not mature enough to make that decision. She does not understand all the ramifications of the statement she was making where she was.
If your saying she is mature enough, then SHE can answer for her wearing something that can be construted as divsional.

She was not even responsible enough to have a dog until a couple months ago. But now she can make decisions about Nukes and Peace on her own. :roll:

Amazing... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Alice
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
alice said:
aplusmnt said:
MsSage said:
She is not mature enough to make that decision. She does not understand all the ramifications of the statement she was making where she was.
If your saying she is mature enough, then SHE can answer for her wearing something that can be construted as divsional.

She was not even responsible enough to have a dog until a couple months ago. But now she can make decisions about Nukes and Peace on her own. :roll:

Amazing... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Alice

I know it is amazing that their kids could not handle a dog but can stir the fire with the debate of of Nukes!

Obama is pimping his daughter, keeps the eyes off him and what he is doing if he can pimp out his kids to get us discussing them!
 

alice

Well-known member
aplusmnt said:
alice said:
aplusmnt said:
She was not even responsible enough to have a dog until a couple months ago. But now she can make decisions about Nukes and Peace on her own. :roll:

Amazing... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Alice

I know it is amazing that their kids could not handle a dog but can stir the fire with the debate of of Nukes!

Obama is pimping his daughter, keeps the eyes off him and what he is doing if he can pimp out his kids to get us discussing them!

I'll let that "brilliant" statement speak for itself.

Alice
 
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