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Chris Wallace vs NRA 'guru'

kolanuraven

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http://www.businessinsider.com/nras-wayne-lapierre-fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace-2013-2


The last contentious exchange came when Wallace disputed LaPierre's logic that only "elite, out of touch" politicians have armed protection next to them. Wallace pointed out that LaPierre also traveled with armed guards to his appearance on "Fox News Sunday."
"Does that make you an elite, and out-of-touch elite, because you have security?" Wallace said.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nras-wayne-lapierre-fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace-2013-2#ixzz2JrZgSzAZ
 

hypocritexposer

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The future of security in Newtown schools is beginning to take shape.

At Thursday night's meeting, the Newtown Board of Education voted to approve a request to the Police Department for armed SROs (school resource officers) for each of the town's elementary schools.

http://bronxville.patch.com/articles/newtown-security-vision-discussion
 

Steve

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I actually saw the full interviews..

he had on Gabby Giffords husband and the Lapeirre (who is an elite by almost anyone's standard)

and each segment couldn't have taken a different tone..

Wallace was compassionate and sympathetic in the first and combative in the later one with the NRA president..

fact is... there is two worlds in this country... one for the rich.. "elite" and one for the poor..

especially the really poor... who live in crime infested neighborhoods with no 2nd amendment rights while their politicians walk around with armed guards..

and the police respond when they get time...
 

hypocritexposer

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NRA Winning the Influence Battle Over Gun Control


The gun control debate is clearly one of the most contentious and controversial issues in America today. And the battle over gun control is now being waged through intensive media campaigns from both sides of the political spectrum to influence public opinion and to assert pressure on policy makers. So who’s winning? To find out, we turned to objective data provided exclusively to Forbes Insights by Appinions, the influence marketing platform. Keep in mind Forbes Insights has no agenda other than to shed research light on the process of measuring influence and what we can learn from it. The facts are objective, whatever your perspective on the issue may be. We certainly don’t aim to promote either side and are just stating the facts of influence and who is leading or gaining ground through the lens of influence.

Forbes Insights and Appinions looked at the data for the week prior to the Sandy Hook tragedy and trended the data over the subsequent 5 weeks to determine the ebb and flow over the gun control debate. We found that the NRA and the pro-gun rights voices are winning the influence battle and will continue to be strong and more influential if the pro gun control voice remains fragmented. On the flip side, the pro gun control voice could certainly gain influence if they establish a more united voice. Here are some other interesting observations from the data:

Republican politicians are missing from the debate. The debate is an influence battle between President Barack Obama’s Democrats and Wayne LaPierre’s NRA. Of the top 25 stakeholders in the debate, there is only 1 prominent Republican politician (Chris Christie – who is pro-gun control). Barack Obama leads the pro-gun control voice with a net influence score of 268. LaPierre leads the anti-gun control side with a net influence score of 240.

It’s a Marathon, not a sprint. It seems the NRA has the stamina to out-run the pro-gun control movement. They are persistent, un-yielding and gaining influence. It will be interesting to see how the pro-gun control voice responds and how the influence between the two groups changes as the debate persists.

The pro-gun rights voice is rapidly gaining influence while the pro-gun control voice has tapered in recent weeks. Momentum is shifting and the gun control debate is becoming a platform benefiting gun rights advocates.

The pro–gun control group is fragmented whereas the pro-gun rights voice is united and strong. Of the top influencers on the pro-gun rights side, the majority of the most prominent voices are from the NRA. The pro-gun control voice is split between Obama and several gun control advocacy groups which dilutes the message.

Below is an infographic meant to bring this data to life.
 

Big Muddy rancher

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kolanuraven said:
http://www.businessinsider.com/nras-wayne-lapierre-fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace-2013-2


The last contentious exchange came when Wallace disputed LaPierre's logic that only "elite, out of touch" politicians have armed protection next to them. Wallace pointed out that LaPierre also traveled with armed guards to his appearance on "Fox News Sunday."
"Does that make you an elite, and out-of-touch elite, because you have security?" Wallace said.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nras-wayne-lapierre-fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace-2013-2#ixzz2JrZgSzAZ

Your out of touch when you don't want others to have the right to defend themselves while you have armed security. That's the difference between the left and the right.
 

hypocritexposer

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Big Muddy rancher said:
kolanuraven said:
http://www.businessinsider.com/nras-wayne-lapierre-fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace-2013-2


The last contentious exchange came when Wallace disputed LaPierre's logic that only "elite, out of touch" politicians have armed protection next to them. Wallace pointed out that LaPierre also traveled with armed guards to his appearance on "Fox News Sunday."
"Does that make you an elite, and out-of-touch elite, because you have security?" Wallace said.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/nras-wayne-lapierre-fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace-2013-2#ixzz2JrZgSzAZ

Your out of touch when you don't want others to have the right to defend themselves while you have armed security. That's the difference between the left and the right.


Sometimes you got to spell it out for Liberals, like Wallace.

LaPierre: "You are an elite, out of touch Politician/individual, if you believe that you, and yours, should be protected by armed guards and advocate for others not to have that same God given right, to defend themselves."


But Liberals will take a point you are not trying to make, and run with it.
 

gmacbeef

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I would not consider Wallace a liberal. He was trying to make a point. & I would say that Mr. Lapierre at least has the common sense to know that many LIBERALS,would like to do him harm.
 

Larrry

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I have a question, for kola claiming she is pro second she sure comes up with a lot and any slant she can to run down gun owners and the second amendment
 

hypocritexposer

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Larrry said:
I have a question, for kola claiming she is pro second she sure comes up with a lot and any slant she can to run down gun owners and the second amendment


She sounds a lot like those "elitist, out of touch" politicians that want to have the right to carry, but want to take yours away, doesn't she?
 

Mike

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hypocritexposer said:
Larrry said:
I have a question, for kola claiming she is pro second she sure comes up with a lot and any slant she can to run down gun owners and the second amendment


She sounds a lot like those "elitist, out of touch" politicians that want to have the right to carry, but want to take yours away, doesn't she?

Yep. The kind of "Elitist" with the inflated egos that photographers are chasing after. :roll:
 

okfarmer

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Mike said:
hypocritexposer said:
Larrry said:
I have a question, for kola claiming she is pro second she sure comes up with a lot and any slant she can to run down gun owners and the second amendment


She sounds a lot like those "elitist, out of touch" politicians that want to have the right to carry, but want to take yours away, doesn't she?

Yep. The kind of "Elitist" with the inflated egos that photographers are chasing after. :roll:

All I know is that I have answered more than one of her questions but she doesn't like to answer mine. :?
 

kolanuraven

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Larrry said:
I have a question, for kola claiming she is pro second she sure comes up with a lot and any slant she can to run down gun owners and the second amendment


Please post here, for all the world to see, where I have made a post that "runs down" gun owners?


I'm for background checks, and gun education.
 

kolanuraven

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okfarmer said:
Purely out of curosity, did you start this thread to support your view of background checks or was it gun education?


No.

I just thought it was worth posting to show a Fox news person basically attacking the NRA head.
 

Whitewing

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kolanuraven said:
okfarmer said:
Purely out of curosity, did you start this thread to support your view of background checks or was it gun education?


No.

I just thought it was worth posting to show a Fox news person basically attacking the NRA head.

(WW uses his best OT voice) So what you're saying is that Fox News is fair and balanced. Thank you.
 

kolanuraven

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Whitewing said:
kolanuraven said:
okfarmer said:
Purely out of curosity, did you start this thread to support your view of background checks or was it gun education?


No.

I just thought it was worth posting to show a Fox news person basically attacking the NRA head.

(WW uses his best OT voice) So what you're saying is that Fox News is fair and balanced. Thank you.


Ohhh....I'd NEVER say that about Fox under any condition!!!
 

Whitewing

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kolanuraven said:
Whitewing said:
kolanuraven said:
No.

I just thought it was worth posting to show a Fox news person basically attacking the NRA head.

(WW uses his best OT voice) So what you're saying is that Fox News is fair and balanced. Thank you.


Ohhh....I'd NEVER say that about Fox under any condition!!!

But you did get the joke, right?
 

okfarmer

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kolanuraven said:
okfarmer said:
Purely out of curosity, did you start this thread to support your view of background checks or was it gun education?


No.

I just thought it was worth posting to show a Fox news person basically attacking the NRA head.

What makes it worth posting?
 
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