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Cindy McCain

Faster horses

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I got this in a e-mail and the person who sent it checked snopes...it is true.

There was an article in the Wall Street Journal on Cindy McCain, John's wife.


All I ever saw was this attractive woman standing beside John.

I was surprised how talented and involved with world problems she is. This
is a summary of the article.

She graduated from Southern Cal and was a special-needs teacher.

After her Dad died she became involved with his beer distributing firm and is
now the chairwoman.

Sales have doubled since she has taken over from her father.

She and Sen. John McCain have a marriage prenuptial agreement; her assets
remain separate.

She is involved around the world clearing land mines travels to these countries
on a detonation team and serves on their board.

The McCains have a 19 year old serving in Iraq, another son in the Naval Academy,
a daughter who recently graduated from Columbia Univ., an adopted daughter in
high school, and a son who is the finance guy at the beer firm.

Raised kids in Phoenix, AZ rather than Washington DC. (better atmosphere). He commuted.

In 1991, Mrs. McCain came across a girl in an orphanage in Bangladesh.
Mother Teresa implored Mrs. McCain to take the baby who had a severe cleft palate.
She did so without first telling her husband.
The couple adopted the girl who has had a dozen operations to repair her cleft palate
and other medical problems.

They have a Family Foundation for children's causes.

She's active with 'Halo Trust' - to clear land mines, provide water and food in war
ravaged and developing countries.

She will join an overseas mission of 'Operation Smile', a charity for corrective surgery
on children's faces.

She has had two back surgeries and became addicted to pain killers. She talks openly
about it, which she says is part of the recovery process.

I'm surprised the media is so quiet about her attributes. She sounds more capable
than Hillary or Obama.

We would really get two for the price of one. A person with business and international
experience.

John did work for the firm for awhile when he left the Navy.

She, however, has the real business experience.

Very interesting.
 

fff

Well-known member
I got this in a e-mail and the person who sent it checked snopes...it is true.

Well, if an email said it was true...... :roll:

Why no link to the actual WSJ article?

Ah, here it is. And it has a few other interesting comments to make about Cindy: stealing drugs from her non profit? Would the DEA give that same deal to me or you? Lying to John about her age (24! good grief) Was McCain really separated from his first wife? The one who had waited for him five years while he was a POW? Stay tuned, I'll bet we'll find out in this campaign. :D

On a recent balmy Sunday, John and Cindy McCain hosted the national press corps at their ranch here. Mrs.McCain’s touches were evident—the ceiling fans hung from tree branches, the art of their children displayed on the cabin’s walls, the Budweiser beer tap from her family’s business. Dogs she has adopted ran about.

Showing off his barbecue skills, Sen.McCain pulled sizzling ribs off the grill and dispensed them on the sweeping porch. Mrs.McCain, in skinny jeans with her hair pulled back in a ponytail, stood nearby and just smiled.

The 53-year-old wife of Sen.McCain doesn’t seek the limelight. While the picture-perfect Mrs.McCain regularly introduces her husband at campaign events, she often retreats after her duties are done, donning her fully loaded iPod and typing away on her silver BlackBerry.

“The campaign gets to be a little too much for me,” she said in an interview. “I take some time off occasionally…and then I get back out.”

As the wife of the expected Republican nominee, Mrs. McCain will face intensifying scrutiny. Both of Sen. McCain’s potential opponents have high-profile spouses who have assumed very public roles in the campaigns—and have at times undergone fierce criticism and media attention.

The pressure already has begun. Recently, Mrs.McCain faced the press with Sen.McCain to deny news reports that her husband of 28 years had an affair with a lobbyist.

Although she says she wants to be a “traditional” first lady, Mrs.McCain has led a life that by any measure has been untraditional.

She heads one of the nation’s largest beer distributorships, an Anheuser-Busch Cos. franchise inherited from her father. She has sported “MS BUD” on her license plate, and from the campaign trail she uses her BlackBerry and cellphone to oversee this region’s rollout of Bud Lite Lime and to expand her corporate empire.

Last month, while Sen.McCain was touring Europe and Iraq to show his foreign-policy credentials, Mrs.McCain flew into postwar Kosovo on a mission to clear land mines. It was the latest of several trips she has made in recent years as part of a detonation team. She also supports the charity arranging the trips by serving on its board and making donations.

“Cindy is a private person with her own stresses and commitments—apart from her public role in John’s campaign,” said Sen.Lindsey Graham, a close friend of the McCains. “She juggles bowling balls.”

Sen.McCain, 71, calls his wife “a real trooper.” After knee-replacement surgery following a fall in a grocery store a few months ago, Mrs.McCain, always meticulously dressed and coiffed even on crutches, quickly hit the trail. “Sometimes when we get in bed at night, I hear her groan” from the pain, the senator said in an interview.

When John McCain met his future wife, Cindy Hensley was a 24-year-old only child on vacation with her parents. In Phoenix, she had been her high school’s rodeo queen, sporting a cowboy hat complete with a crown. After earning education degrees at the University of Southern California (which Sen.McCain has called “University of Spoiled Children”), she became a special-needs teacher.

She also got involved in the beer distributorship started by her father. Art Pearce, who worked at his own family’s company, a Coors distributor in Phoenix, frequently ran into her at industry events. “You could tell by her air that she was very proud of her family’s business,” Mr.Pearce said.

Her focus shifted as soon as she met John McCain, a dashing Navy officer in his dress whites, at a cocktail party in Hawaii, where she was vacationing with her parents. They had “instant chemistry,” Mrs.McCain has said. She didn’t know he had been a prisoner of war in Vietnam for five years. She has said that they both lied about their ages: He said he was four years younger; she said she was three years older.

At the time, Sen.McCain was separated from his first wife, with whom he had a daughter. He had adopted his wife’s two sons. After a divorce, he married Cindy Hensley in 1980. Having signed a prenuptial agreement that her assets would remain separate, he left the Navy to join her father’s business, Hensley & Co., as a public-relations manager for $50,000 a year. His young wife brought home much more from company distributions.

Her family provided some of the funding when he ran for Congress in 1982. After his election, the couple began a commuter marriage, with Mrs.McCain staying in Phoenix to raise their growing family.

“We really feel that one of the smartest things we ever did was have our kids grow up in Arizona,” Sen.McCain said recently on the trail. “It’s very tough to be a relative of a politician in Washington, because of the fishbowl effect.” Although the commuter marriage continues to this day, Sen.McCain said the family took two vacations together every year and Mrs.McCain “is the one that always made that happen.”

In 2000, when Mrs.McCain’s father died, she inherited the beer distributorship. Hensley’s chief executive, Bob Delgado, said he sat down with Mrs.McCain to ask what she wanted to do with the business. He expected her to put it up for sale.

“I want the employees and their families to know that I will take care of them the way my dad has,” she recalls telling Mr.Delgado. “I’m not going to sell just because he died.” Mrs.McCain said she wanted the company her father built from scratch to go to her children someday, Mr. Delgado said.

Mrs.McCain assumed her father’s position as chairman. She began focusing on strategic issues and big-budget items, leaving day-to-day operations to Mr.Delgado and chief financial officer Andy McCain, her stepson.

“I have good people in place…I trust them and I love them,” Mrs.McCain said, adding that she speaks to Mr.Delgado almost daily. “I’m the ultimate person who makes the large decisions; major changes, growth decisions.”

Since James Hensley’s death eight years ago, the distributorship has nearly doubled, holding a significant portion of the Phoenix-area market share. It has 700 employees and annual revenue of about $300 million. Mrs.McCain has approved the buyout of another distributorship, helping bring sales last year to 23 million cases of beer.

Mrs. McCain (who can tell a beer’s freshness by tasting it, according to her daughter Meghan) declines to say what percentage of the company she owns or its value. Industry experts estimate her stake at about $100million.

She owns a private jet, which Sen.McCain’s campaign pays to use on the trail. She started the Hensley Family Foundation, largely committed to children’s causes, to which Sen.McCain donates some of his speaking fees and book proceeds.

In 1991, Sen. McCain became embroiled in the “Keating Five” scandal, in which five senators were probed for ties with a thrift executive. The Arizona lawmaker was not charged with any ethics violation.

That same year, Mrs.McCain underwent two back surgeries, and she said she became addicted to painkillers. She resorted to stealing some drugs from a medical charity she had started and using others’ names for prescriptions, according to news reports at the time.

“I was trying to be the perfect woman,” Mrs.McCain said in interviews at the time. “That was the darkest period of my life.”

The Drug Enforcement Administration began an investigation of Mrs.McCain in 1994, but she avoided prosecution by paying a fine, performing community service in a soup kitchen and joining Narcotics Anonymous. She had to close her medical charity.

“Cindy faced up to her addiction,” Sen.McCain said.

Since coming clean, “I’ve never been secretive about it at all, because [talking about addiction] is part of the recovery process,” Mrs.McCain said. “It’s part of my life; it has made me a better person and certainly made me a better mother.”

The past year has been particularly stressful because their 19-year-old son, Jimmy, did a tour of duty in Iraq. Their son Jack also is in the military, attending the Naval Academy, as did his father, grandfather and great grandfather. Meghan, a recent Columbia University graduate, travels and blogs for the campaign, while the younger daughter, Bridget, attends high school.

One day, Mrs.McCain answered her son Jimmy’s call from Iraq as the campaign bus pulled up to a town hall where the McCains were scheduled to appear. The phone line suddenly went dead; she grew teary. Two minutes later, she stepped onto the stage and calmly introduced her husband.

In 1991, Mrs.McCain came across a girl in an orphanage in Bangladesh. Mother Teresa implored Mrs.McCain to take the baby with a severe cleft palate; the senator’s wife did so without first telling her husband. The couple adopted the girl, named her Bridget, and have seen her through some dozen operations to repair her cleft palate and resolve other medical problems.

When Bridget drops into the campaign, Mrs.McCain goes out of her way to point her out. “I want to make sure everyone knows she’s a part of us, too,” she said. (The dark-skinned child was the subject of a “dirty trick” during Mr.McCain’s presidential run in 2000, when unknown operatives spread the rumor that Bridget was the product of an affair.)

These days, Mrs.McCain is active in charities specializing in war-ravaged and developing countries. With HALO Trust, she has helped teams that cleared landmines in Cambodia and Angola, identifying safe paths for traveling to water, food or schools. This summer, Mrs.McCain will join an overseas mission of Operation Smile, a charity she has long supported that travels the world to perform corrective surgery on children’s faces.

Her reticence about the spotlight is why she surprised some friends and advisers recently by wading into a controversy involving Michelle Obama. The wife of Sen.Barack Obama had commented that her husband’s run for the presidency made her proud of her country for the first time in her life. Mrs.McCain declared on the stump that she always has been, “and always will be, proud of my country.”

http://www.thepennsylvaniaprimary.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080417/PRIMARY0102/80417013
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
fff said:
I got this in a e-mail and the person who sent it checked snopes...it is true.

Well, if an email said it was true...... :roll:

Why no link to the actual WSJ article?

Ah, here it is. And it has a few other interesting comments to make about Cindy: stealing drugs from her non profit? Would the DEA give that same deal to me or you? Lying to John about her age (24! good grief) Was McCain really separated from his first wife? The one who had waited for him five years while he was a POW? Stay tuned, I'll bet we'll find out in this campaign. :D

On a recent balmy Sunday, John and Cindy McCain hosted the national press corps at their ranch here. Mrs.McCain’s touches were evident—the ceiling fans hung from tree branches, the art of their children displayed on the cabin’s walls, the Budweiser beer tap from her family’s business. Dogs she has adopted ran about.

Showing off his barbecue skills, Sen.McCain pulled sizzling ribs off the grill and dispensed them on the sweeping porch. Mrs.McCain, in skinny jeans with her hair pulled back in a ponytail, stood nearby and just smiled.

The 53-year-old wife of Sen.McCain doesn’t seek the limelight. While the picture-perfect Mrs.McCain regularly introduces her husband at campaign events, she often retreats after her duties are done, donning her fully loaded iPod and typing away on her silver BlackBerry.

“The campaign gets to be a little too much for me,” she said in an interview. “I take some time off occasionally…and then I get back out.”

As the wife of the expected Republican nominee, Mrs. McCain will face intensifying scrutiny. Both of Sen. McCain’s potential opponents have high-profile spouses who have assumed very public roles in the campaigns—and have at times undergone fierce criticism and media attention.

The pressure already has begun. Recently, Mrs.McCain faced the press with Sen.McCain to deny news reports that her husband of 28 years had an affair with a lobbyist.

Although she says she wants to be a “traditional” first lady, Mrs.McCain has led a life that by any measure has been untraditional.

She heads one of the nation’s largest beer distributorships, an Anheuser-Busch Cos. franchise inherited from her father. She has sported “MS BUD” on her license plate, and from the campaign trail she uses her BlackBerry and cellphone to oversee this region’s rollout of Bud Lite Lime and to expand her corporate empire.

Last month, while Sen.McCain was touring Europe and Iraq to show his foreign-policy credentials, Mrs.McCain flew into postwar Kosovo on a mission to clear land mines. It was the latest of several trips she has made in recent years as part of a detonation team. She also supports the charity arranging the trips by serving on its board and making donations.

“Cindy is a private person with her own stresses and commitments—apart from her public role in John’s campaign,” said Sen.Lindsey Graham, a close friend of the McCains. “She juggles bowling balls.”

Sen.McCain, 71, calls his wife “a real trooper.” After knee-replacement surgery following a fall in a grocery store a few months ago, Mrs.McCain, always meticulously dressed and coiffed even on crutches, quickly hit the trail. “Sometimes when we get in bed at night, I hear her groan” from the pain, the senator said in an interview.

When John McCain met his future wife, Cindy Hensley was a 24-year-old only child on vacation with her parents. In Phoenix, she had been her high school’s rodeo queen, sporting a cowboy hat complete with a crown. After earning education degrees at the University of Southern California (which Sen.McCain has called “University of Spoiled Children”), she became a special-needs teacher.

She also got involved in the beer distributorship started by her father. Art Pearce, who worked at his own family’s company, a Coors distributor in Phoenix, frequently ran into her at industry events. “You could tell by her air that she was very proud of her family’s business,” Mr.Pearce said.

Her focus shifted as soon as she met John McCain, a dashing Navy officer in his dress whites, at a cocktail party in Hawaii, where she was vacationing with her parents. They had “instant chemistry,” Mrs.McCain has said. She didn’t know he had been a prisoner of war in Vietnam for five years. She has said that they both lied about their ages: He said he was four years younger; she said she was three years older.

At the time, Sen.McCain was separated from his first wife, with whom he had a daughter. He had adopted his wife’s two sons. After a divorce, he married Cindy Hensley in 1980. Having signed a prenuptial agreement that her assets would remain separate, he left the Navy to join her father’s business, Hensley & Co., as a public-relations manager for $50,000 a year. His young wife brought home much more from company distributions.

Her family provided some of the funding when he ran for Congress in 1982. After his election, the couple began a commuter marriage, with Mrs.McCain staying in Phoenix to raise their growing family.

“We really feel that one of the smartest things we ever did was have our kids grow up in Arizona,” Sen.McCain said recently on the trail. “It’s very tough to be a relative of a politician in Washington, because of the fishbowl effect.” Although the commuter marriage continues to this day, Sen.McCain said the family took two vacations together every year and Mrs.McCain “is the one that always made that happen.”

In 2000, when Mrs.McCain’s father died, she inherited the beer distributorship. Hensley’s chief executive, Bob Delgado, said he sat down with Mrs.McCain to ask what she wanted to do with the business. He expected her to put it up for sale.

“I want the employees and their families to know that I will take care of them the way my dad has,” she recalls telling Mr.Delgado. “I’m not going to sell just because he died.” Mrs.McCain said she wanted the company her father built from scratch to go to her children someday, Mr. Delgado said.

Mrs.McCain assumed her father’s position as chairman. She began focusing on strategic issues and big-budget items, leaving day-to-day operations to Mr.Delgado and chief financial officer Andy McCain, her stepson.

“I have good people in place…I trust them and I love them,” Mrs.McCain said, adding that she speaks to Mr.Delgado almost daily. “I’m the ultimate person who makes the large decisions; major changes, growth decisions.”

Since James Hensley’s death eight years ago, the distributorship has nearly doubled, holding a significant portion of the Phoenix-area market share. It has 700 employees and annual revenue of about $300 million. Mrs.McCain has approved the buyout of another distributorship, helping bring sales last year to 23 million cases of beer.

Mrs. McCain (who can tell a beer’s freshness by tasting it, according to her daughter Meghan) declines to say what percentage of the company she owns or its value. Industry experts estimate her stake at about $100million.

She owns a private jet, which Sen.McCain’s campaign pays to use on the trail. She started the Hensley Family Foundation, largely committed to children’s causes, to which Sen.McCain donates some of his speaking fees and book proceeds.

In 1991, Sen. McCain became embroiled in the “Keating Five” scandal, in which five senators were probed for ties with a thrift executive. The Arizona lawmaker was not charged with any ethics violation.

That same year, Mrs.McCain underwent two back surgeries, and she said she became addicted to painkillers. She resorted to stealing some drugs from a medical charity she had started and using others’ names for prescriptions, according to news reports at the time.

“I was trying to be the perfect woman,” Mrs.McCain said in interviews at the time. “That was the darkest period of my life.”

The Drug Enforcement Administration began an investigation of Mrs.McCain in 1994, but she avoided prosecution by paying a fine, performing community service in a soup kitchen and joining Narcotics Anonymous. She had to close her medical charity.

“Cindy faced up to her addiction,” Sen.McCain said.

Since coming clean, “I’ve never been secretive about it at all, because [talking about addiction] is part of the recovery process,” Mrs.McCain said. “It’s part of my life; it has made me a better person and certainly made me a better mother.”

The past year has been particularly stressful because their 19-year-old son, Jimmy, did a tour of duty in Iraq. Their son Jack also is in the military, attending the Naval Academy, as did his father, grandfather and great grandfather. Meghan, a recent Columbia University graduate, travels and blogs for the campaign, while the younger daughter, Bridget, attends high school.

One day, Mrs.McCain answered her son Jimmy’s call from Iraq as the campaign bus pulled up to a town hall where the McCains were scheduled to appear. The phone line suddenly went dead; she grew teary. Two minutes later, she stepped onto the stage and calmly introduced her husband.

In 1991, Mrs.McCain came across a girl in an orphanage in Bangladesh. Mother Teresa implored Mrs.McCain to take the baby with a severe cleft palate; the senator’s wife did so without first telling her husband. The couple adopted the girl, named her Bridget, and have seen her through some dozen operations to repair her cleft palate and resolve other medical problems.

When Bridget drops into the campaign, Mrs.McCain goes out of her way to point her out. “I want to make sure everyone knows she’s a part of us, too,” she said. (The dark-skinned child was the subject of a “dirty trick” during Mr.McCain’s presidential run in 2000, when unknown operatives spread the rumor that Bridget was the product of an affair.)

These days, Mrs.McCain is active in charities specializing in war-ravaged and developing countries. With HALO Trust, she has helped teams that cleared landmines in Cambodia and Angola, identifying safe paths for traveling to water, food or schools. This summer, Mrs.McCain will join an overseas mission of Operation Smile, a charity she has long supported that travels the world to perform corrective surgery on children’s faces.

Her reticence about the spotlight is why she surprised some friends and advisers recently by wading into a controversy involving Michelle Obama. The wife of Sen.Barack Obama had commented that her husband’s run for the presidency made her proud of her country for the first time in her life. Mrs.McCain declared on the stump that she always has been, “and always will be, proud of my country.”

http://www.thepennsylvaniaprimary.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080417/PRIMARY0102/80417013

Typical negative liberal :roll: Who never sees any harm in a Democrat, but can not see the positive in someone that has done good work in their life. Probably did more good work in one day than you will ever do in two lifetimes!

Everyone has had some bad times and did bad things in their lives, but a truly good person changes and makes amends for it, and should be judged by that.

Like I said it is usually people that have did very little good for anyone else in there life that judge the hardest. Maybe that is why it is a proven fact Conservatives give more to charity than Liberals. Liberals are to busy whining and looking out for themselves.
 

CattleArmy

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The article makes her be more then the woman beside him. Thanks for posting I had no idea she was involved in various organizations.

As far as her drug problem at least she admits she had one.
 

Cal

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CattleArmy said:
The article makes her be more then the woman beside him. Thanks for posting I had no idea she was involved in various organizations.

As far as her drug problem at least she admits she had one.
I have a relative, a real church lady, who became addicted to pain killers and had to be hospitalized to be weaned off....after undergoing a plethera of surgeries, at least two grandparents who likely wouldn't have done well in their final days without their pills....whether they were in pain or not. It happens, and it's a whole lot different than those that are taking drugs for purely recreational reasons.
 

aplusmnt

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Cal said:
CattleArmy said:
The article makes her be more then the woman beside him. Thanks for posting I had no idea she was involved in various organizations.

As far as her drug problem at least she admits she had one.
I have a relative, a real church lady, who became addicted to pain killers and had to be hospitalized to be weaned off....after undergoing a plethera of surgeries, at least two grandparents who likely wouldn't have done well in their final days without their pills....whether they were in pain or not. It happens, and it's a whole lot different than those that are taking drugs for purely recreational reasons.

When I was 12 I was in a car wreck and spent the best part of a whole year in and out of hospitals, between body traction, body cast and physical therapy. I was on some pretty strong pain medicine early on, I never got addicted to them so to speak but I remember the doctors talking about how they had to move me off the strong stuff (maybe morphine not sure) and start gradually giving me less addictive stuff and less quality. Even at 12 and years later I can remember the transition and how I thought I was going to die of pain with out the good stuff.

I am very anti drug, but do have some compassion for people who were in legitimate accidents and get addicted to the pain medicines they took. I can still remember my parents rubbing and squeezing my toes on broken leg because it felt like razor blades cutting them when the pain medicine wore off.

There is a big difference in cases like Cindy McCain and some one out smoking pot or crack.
 

hopalong

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fff wrote
Ah, here it is. And it has a few other interesting comments to make about Cindy: stealing drugs from her non profit? Would the DEA give that same deal to me or you? Lying to John about her age (24! good grief) Was McCain really separated from his first wife? The one who had waited for him five years while he was a POW? Stay tuned, I'll bet we'll find out in this campaign.

For the most part I would bet the DEA would offer us the same deal Not like she was selling the drugs!!!
What woman hasn't fudged on her age at times.
Was Bill seperated from his wife when he had all those affairs????
Stay tuned I bet ole fff has another tear to cry before this is over. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

rookie

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What even be tha matter about MCcain's wife? I couldn't be carin any less about her. The first lady should have NOTHIN ta do with the affairs of tha nation, and I DO mean NOTHIN. I be not electin her ta any office at all.
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
There is a big difference in cases like Cindy McCain and some one out smoking pot or crack.

Sure there's a big difference. Cindy McCain is a rich, white woman, blond and attractive on top of that. Who would expect her to be treated the same as a poor black woman who smokes pot or crack because she doesn't have non-profit organization to steal better quality drugs from!! Not Aplusmnt.
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
There is a big difference in cases like Cindy McCain and some one out smoking pot or crack.

Sure there's a big difference. Cindy McCain is a rich, white woman, blond and attractive on top of that. Who would expect her to be treated the same as a poor black woman who smokes pot or crack because she doesn't have non-profit organization to steal better quality drugs from!! Not Aplusmnt.

Why you got to be stereotyping poor black women for? Why does it have to be about color at all, would she not have the same advantage over a poor white woman smoking crack?

You Racist Liberals, always making things about race! The color of someones skin had nothing to do with this thread! Funny how liberals are high and mighty in thinking they are tolerant of race when all along they are the biggest racist on the planet! :roll:
 
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Sure there's a big difference. Cindy McCain is a rich, white woman, blond and attractive on top of that- with a crib full of high price lawyers. Who would expect her to be treated the same as a poor white woman who smokes pot or crack because she doesn't have a non-profit organization to steal better quality drugs from- and who is defended by an underpaid overcased Public Defender !! Not Aplusmnt.
 

fff

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aplusmnt said:
fff said:
aplusmnt said:
There is a big difference in cases like Cindy McCain and some one out smoking pot or crack.

Sure there's a big difference. Cindy McCain is a rich, white woman, blond and attractive on top of that. Who would expect her to be treated the same as a poor black woman who smokes pot or crack because she doesn't have non-profit organization to steal better quality drugs from!! Not Aplusmnt.

Why you got to be stereotyping poor black women for? Why does it have to be about color at all, would she not have the same advantage over a poor white woman smoking crack?

You Racist Liberals, always making things about race! The color of someones skin had nothing to do with this thread! Funny how liberals are high and mighty in thinking they are tolerant of race when all along they are the biggest racist on the planet! :roll:

It's not about color. It's about a society that separates people, in part, based on their color, but mostly based on their net worth. And Cindy McCain, only child of very wealthy parents, has had everything she ever wanted handed to her on a sliver platter. That includes another woman's husband and other children's father. Big John, staight talker, maverick, that he is, walked away from his wife and children, left the Navy, to marry a woman young enough to be his daughter, but with enough money and pull to get him elected to national office.
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Sure there's a big difference. Cindy McCain is a rich, white woman, blond and attractive on top of that. Who would expect her to be treated the same as a poor black woman who smokes pot or crack because she doesn't have non-profit organization to steal better quality drugs from!! Not Aplusmnt.

Why you got to be stereotyping poor black women for? Why does it have to be about color at all, would she not have the same advantage over a poor white woman smoking crack?

You Racist Liberals, always making things about race! The color of someones skin had nothing to do with this thread! Funny how liberals are high and mighty in thinking they are tolerant of race when all along they are the biggest racist on the planet! :roll:

It's not about color. It's about a society that separates people, in part, based on their color, but mostly based on their net worth. And Cindy McCain, only child of very wealthy parents, has had everything she ever wanted handed to her on a sliver platter. That includes another woman's husband and other children's father. Big John, staight talker, maverick, that he is, walked away from his wife and children, left the Navy, to marry a woman young enough to be his daughter, but with enough money and pull to get him elected to national office.

Why would you highlight him leaving the Navy in Bold print? You do not think he has not did his part in serving this country? Did you serve? They take women you know?

The fact that you put that part out of all that paragraph in bold shows just how evil minded you are! You are a far left mental loon! With no grasp on how the real world works, you sit at home watching Greys Anatomy and American Idol thinking the world should be a fantasy world like your mom read to you when you were a child.

You are a bitter, negative, jealous old woman!
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Sure there's a big difference. Cindy McCain is a rich, white woman, blond and attractive on top of that. Who would expect her to be treated the same as a poor black woman who smokes pot or crack because she doesn't have non-profit organization to steal better quality drugs from!! Not Aplusmnt.

Why you got to be stereotyping poor black women for? Why does it have to be about color at all, would she not have the same advantage over a poor white woman smoking crack?

You Racist Liberals, always making things about race! The color of someones skin had nothing to do with this thread! Funny how liberals are high and mighty in thinking they are tolerant of race when all along they are the biggest racist on the planet! :roll:

It's not about color. It's about a society that separates people, in part, based on their color, but mostly based on their net worth. And Cindy McCain, only child of very wealthy parents, has had everything she ever wanted handed to her on a sliver platter. That includes another woman's husband and other children's father. Big John, staight talker, maverick, that he is, walked away from his wife and children, left the Navy, to marry a woman young enough to be his daughter, but with enough money and pull to get him elected to national office.

Why would you highlight him leaving the Navy in Bold print? You do not think he has not did his part in serving this country? Did you serve? They take women you know?

The fact that you put that part out of all that paragraph in bold shows just how evil minded you are! You are a far left mental loon! With no grasp on how the real world works, you sit at home watching Greys Anatomy and American Idol thinking the world should be a fantasy world like your mom read to you when you were a child.

You are a bitter, negative, jealous old woman!
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
aplusmnt said:
fff said:
Sure there's a big difference. Cindy McCain is a rich, white woman, blond and attractive on top of that. Who would expect her to be treated the same as a poor black woman who smokes pot or crack because she doesn't have non-profit organization to steal better quality drugs from!! Not Aplusmnt.

Why you got to be stereotyping poor black women for? Why does it have to be about color at all, would she not have the same advantage over a poor white woman smoking crack?

You Racist Liberals, always making things about race! The color of someones skin had nothing to do with this thread! Funny how liberals are high and mighty in thinking they are tolerant of race when all along they are the biggest racist on the planet! :roll:

It's not about color. It's about a society that separates people, in part, based on their color, but mostly based on their net worth. And Cindy McCain, only child of very wealthy parents, has had everything she ever wanted handed to her on a sliver platter. That includes another woman's husband and other children's father. Big John, staight talker, maverick, that he is, walked away from his wife and children, left the Navy, to marry a woman young enough to be his daughter, but with enough money and pull to get him elected to national office.

Why would you highlight him leaving the Navy in Bold print? You do not think he has not did his part in serving this country? Did you serve? They take women you know?

The fact that you put that part out of all that paragraph in bold shows just how evil minded you are! You are a far left mental loon! With no grasp on how the real world works, you sit at home watching Greys Anatomy and American Idol thinking the world should be a fantasy world like your mom read to you when you were a child.

You are a bitter, negative, jealous old woman!
 

aplusmnt

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fff and OT, you guys must live in a fantasy world somewhere. I see people poor all the time getting off on first, second and third offenses ranging from DUI, Drug Possession or Theft. You must live in some pretty strict law enforcement areas to never have any local poor people get off with a slap of the hands.

I see it all the time in my county, same poor thieves and drug users getting off with no jail time, I know people that have had 3 or more DUI's and never did a day of jail time.

Rich, attractive white women are not the only ones that get second chances. You guys just think BECAUSE she is a Rich Attractive white woman she SHOULD go to jail. A little Class Warfare there huh? You Kool Aid drinkers, not only do you believe everything the media tells you now you believe what Jackson and Sharpton tell you.

Go pay attention to how the real world works, many people get second chances. Rarely does a first offender go to jail for drugs, especially when it involves things such as pain killer addiction from an accident.

OT where you really a Sheriff once? I can not believe it because you should know better than anyone how many people get second chances in these types of cases and not just Rich people. :?
 
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Half the times (and second and third times) the rich aren't even charged- with the prosecuters making deals for treatment and counseling- deferred prosecutions- ala your cultist spokesman Rush Limbaugh :???: - which the poor people can't pay for and go to jail instead.......
 

Steve

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fff
Big John, staight talker, maverick, that he is, walked away ,.... , left the Navy,

Why is it that liberals are always attacking the military,.. or the credibility of those who serve?..

a quick check of the facts would show that McCain Retired after over twenty years in uniform.. he didn't just leave the Navy as you insinuated...

John McCain retired after 23 years of honorable service..

McCain graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1958 and became a naval aviator, flying attack aircraft from carriers. During the Vietnam War, he nearly lost his life in the 1967 USS Forrestal fire. Later that year while on a bombing mission over North Vietnam, he was shot down, badly injured, and captured as a prisoner of war by the North Vietnamese. He spent five and a half years as a prisoner of war, experiencing episodes of torture.

in early 1981, Secretary of the Navy John F. Lehman told Captain McCain that he was about to be selected for Admiral. McCain declined the prospect of his first admiral’s star. By then, he had plans to make a run for Congress, and told Lehman that he could "do more good there." McCain retired from the Navy as a captain. His seventeen military awards and decorations include the Silver Star, Legion of Merit, Bronze Star, Distinguished Flying Cross, and Navy Commendation Medal,

McCain retired from the Navy in 1981
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
Half the times (and second and third times) the rich aren't even charged- with the prosecuters making deals for treatment and counseling- deferred prosecutions- ala your cultist spokesman Rush Limbaugh :???: - which the poor people can't pay for and go to jail instead.......

More times than not first offenders rich or poor, paid attorneys or public defenders get off on non violent crimes especially drug related charges. Even them poor black people get off and get more than one chance with no jail term. You my sir are either Bias and unwilling to acknowledge it in this thread or you never were a Sheriff, and you prideful knowledge of the law is an online hoax!

Kolan you have talked about crime in your area before, how many times have you seen the same person get out of jail with slap on wrist and come and repeat that same crime in your area? Were they rich or average to lower income?
 
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