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The following is a partial list of deaths of persons connected to President Clinton during his tenure as Governor of Arkansas and/or while President of the United States and thereafter. Read the list and judge for yourself.

BARBARA OLSON - Author of "Hell to Pay" - a book critical of Hillary Clinton, killed in the Pentagon bombing.

DARLENE NOVINGER - Former FBI operative, January 23rd, 2003. Novinger was known to hold sensitive information on the Clinton and Bush I administration's drug operations. Her husband murdered March 1987 when she went public with initial reports. Her father died July 8, 1993 four hours after Darlene was a guest on the Tom Valentine show. Suffered retaliation after reporting discussions by government protected drug smuggler who described contacts with Vice President George Bush and his son, Jeb Bush.

DAN MULLONEY, a television news photographer who shot footage of the 1993 Branch Davidian siege.

CHARLES RUFF - White House Counsel and Clinton defense attorney during the Monica Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment trial. Of apparent natural causes.

JAMES MCDOUGAL - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. McDougal was a key witness in Kenneth Starr's investigation.

MARY MAHONEY - A former White House intern was murdered July 6, 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened during the pre-trial publicity surrounding the Paula Jones lawsuit days after Newsweek's Mike Isakoff dropped hints that a former White House staffer was about to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

VINCENT FOSTER - Former White House counselor, and former colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose law firm. Foster was found dead July 20, 1993 of a gunshot to the head ruled a suicide. Rumours were that Foster and Hillary had an affair.

RON BROWN - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported to the Bob Grant Radio Show a hole in top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. VICTOR RAISER II - Former National finance Co-Chairman, Clinton for President Campaign and son MONTGOMERY RAISER died in a private plane crash in Alaska, July 30th,1992. Raiser was described as a major player in the Clinton organization by Dee Dee Meyers.

JEREMY "MIKE" BOORDA, President Clinton's former Chief of Naval Operations allegedly committed suicide by shooting himself in the chest with a .38 caliber pistol on his front lawn in May 1996. The unauthorized wearing of valor pins was the alleged reasoning behind the suicide. By 1998 this reasoning was proved false after the Navy issued a report that said Boorda earned the right to wear the pins afterall.

PAUL TULLEY - Democrat National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas September 24, 1992, Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

ED WILLEY - Clinton fund raiser-found dead November 30, 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide, Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed that Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

JERRY PARKS - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Parks' son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house

JAMES BUNCH - Died from a gunshot wound. Reported to have a black book of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

JAMES WILSON - Was found dead by hanging May 18, 1993. Was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

KATHY FERGUSON - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May,1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot wound to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Corbin Jones lawsuit. She was reported a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones case.

BILL SHELTON - Arkansas state Trooper and Fiancee of Kathy Ferguson.Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

GANDY BAUGH - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by falling out a window of a tall building January, 1991. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

FLORENCE MARTIN - Accountant subcontractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Dead of three gunshot wounds.

SUZANNE COLEMAN - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to back of head, ruled a suicide, was pregnant at the time her death.

PAULA GROBER - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

DANNY CASOLARO - Investigative reporter, investigating Mena airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. Found dead with slit his wrists in the middle of his investigation.

PAUL WILCHER - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC Apartment. Had delivered report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

JON PARNELL WALKER - Whitewater Investigator for Resolution Trust Corporation. Fell to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

BARBARA WISE - Commerce Department Staffer, worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

CHARLES MEISSNER - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

DR.STANLEY HEARD - Chair National Chiropractic Heath Care Advisory committee died with his attorney.

STEVE DICKSON - Died in a small plane crash. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

BARRY SEAL - Drug running pilot out of Mena, Arkansas. Death was no accident.

JOHNNY LAWHORN Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

STANLEY MUGGINS - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

HERSHELL FRIDAY - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

KEVIN IVES and DON HENRY - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas Airport Drug operation. This controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the two had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many people linked to the case died (see below) before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

KEITH CONEY - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck in July, 1988.
KEITH McMASKLE - Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988.
GREGORY COLLINS - Died from a gunshot wound, January 1989.
JEFF RHODES - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
JAMES MILAN. Found decapitated-Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.
JORDAN KETTLESON - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
RICHARD WINTERS - Winters was a suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. Was killed in set-up robbery in July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING FORMER CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
- MAJOR WILLIAM S. BARKLEY JR.
- CAPTAIN SCOTT J.REYNOLDS
- SGT. BRIAN HANEY
- SGT. TIM SABEL
- MAJOR GENERAL WILLIAM ROBERTSON
- COL. WILLIAM DENSBERGER
- COL. ROBERT KELLY
- SPEC. GARY RHODES
- STEVE WILLIS
- ROBERT WILLIAMS
- CONWAY LeBLEU
- TODD McKEEHAN

And finally, BUDDY, the Presidential Dog, killed when he was struck by a car after having escaped his kennel.
 

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And finally, BUDDY, the Presidential Dog, killed when he was struck by a car after having escaped his kennel.

yea sure he escaped, after they wagged the dog, he had to be "put down" to keep him silent.........but was Teddy driving the car????????
 

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I'm no Clinton fan, but these lists aren't reliable. It's possible to come up with stuff like this about anybody w/ political influence, considering how many people they meet and how many people work under them.

Check out the following website detailing deaths linked to Bush family.

http://web.archive.org/web/20030210060332/www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/index.shtml

Here's an even more preposterous one, claiming Bush senior was responsible for killing JFK and JFK Jr.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/bush_killed_jfkjr.htm
 

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reader (the Second) said:
So, Mike, you saying that Clinton arranged for an airliner to be hijacked and flown into the Pentagon to get rid of Barbara Olsen? I'd put a laughing face but it's no laughing matter since I was 2 miles away.

Speaking of Bush, mp.freelance, it was quite revealing to see George Bush Sr. and Bill Clinton together on the Larry King show last night. What a love fest. I bet they had a great time together at the Kennebunkport home just as they described. Wonder if George went out looking for women with Bill? Bill made a great slip of the tongue that y'all would have liked. George said that Bill was too busy and it was unhealthy but Bill said that it's better for him to be out and about and not "on top" of Hillary. I think he corrected himself but the thought and the phrasing were hilarious.

I admire Clinton as a smart man and in many ways a good leader but I sure don't admire his personal life. Course I knew many boys like him in the country -- momma's boys, exceptional, stood out from their peers, got what they wanted, could do no wrong, charming. Most of them died wrapping their fast cars around trees where I lived. Or driving it into the creek and drowning. I had a crush on an archetypical one in high school. He was wild.

Is that why Clinton is so popular among female voters?
 

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You want a list? Here's a list of our military men and women who have died in Iraq since George W. Bush started this unnecessary war, 2134 dead; almost 16,000 wounded

Army Sgt. Aubrey D. Bell, 33, Air Force Tech. Sgt. Bruce E. Brown, 32, Army Pfc. John E. Brown, 21, Army Spc. Paul J. Bueche, 19, Marines Chief Warrant Officer Robert William Channell Jr., 36, Army Sgt. Timothy M. Conneway, 22, Army Spc. Charles G. Haight, 23, Army CWO Philip A. Johnson Jr., 31, Army Pfc. Howard Johnson II, 21, Army Sgt. Jason D. Jordan, 24, Army Spc. Cedric L. Lennon, 32, Army Pvt. Kelley S. Prewitt, 24, Army Sgt. 1st Class Christopher R. Willoughby, 29, Army Sgt. Benjamin W. Biskie, 27, Army Spc. Isaac Campoy, 21, Army Sgt. Sean K. Cataudella, 28, Army Command Sgt. Major Eric F. Cooke, Army Spc. Spencer T. Karol, 20, Army Staff Sgt. William T. Latham, 29, Navy Seaman Joshua McIntosh, 22, Marines Sgt. Fernando Padilla-Ramirez, 26, Army Capt. Eric T. Paliwoda, 28, Army Spc. Alyssa R. Peterson, 27, Army Pfc. Lori Piestewa, 22, Navy Lt. Nathan D. White, 30, Marines Lance Cpl. Michael J. Williams, 31, Army Spc. Jonathan M. Cheatham, 19, Navy Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class Michael Vann Johnson Jr., 25, Army Master Sgt. Kevin N. Morehead, 33, Army Spc. Genaro Acosta, 26, Army Pfc. Steven Acosta, 19, 6 Navy Lt. Thomas Mullen Adams, 27, Army Cpl. Evan Asa Ashcraft, 24, Army Staff Sgt. Stephen A. Bertolino, 40, Marines Sgt. Michael E. Bitz, 31, Army Sgt. 1st Class Kelly Bolor, 37, Army Staff Sgt. Steven H. Bridges, 33, Army 2nd Lt. Todd J. Bryant, 23, Army Staff Sgt. Richard A. Burdick, 24, Army Pfc. Jose Casanova, 23, Army Spc. Andrew F. Chris, 25, Army Spc. Arron R. Clark, 20, Army Spc. Michael A. Diraimondo, 22, Marines Cpl. Jose A. Garibay, 21, Marines Lance Cpl. Cory Ryan Geurin, 18, Marines Cpl. Jesus A. Gonzalez, 22, Marines Cpl. Jorge A. Gonzalez, 20, Army Cpl. Sean R. Grilley, 24, Marines Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, 28, Army Sgt. Michael S. Hancock, 29, Army Sgt. Keicia M. Hines, 27, Army Sgt. Troy Jenkins, 25, Pvt. Devon D. Jones, 19, Marines Capt. Andrew David La Mont, 31, Army Pfc. Karina S. Lau, 20, Army Pfc. Pablo Manzano, 19, Marines Cpl. Douglas Jose Marencoreyes, 28, Army Sgt. Atanacio Haro Marin Jr., 27, Army Sgt. 1st Class John W. Marshall, 50, April 8 Marines Pfc. Francisco A. Martinez Flores, 21, Marines Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Menusa, 33, Army Staff Sgt. Eddie E. Menyweather, 35, Army Spc. Michael G. Mihalakis, 18, Army Pfc. Jesse D. Mizener, 24, Marines Lance Cpl. Jason William Moore, 21, Army Spc. Jose L. Mora, 26, Army Spc. Paul T. Nakamura, 21, Army CWO2 Christopher G. Nason, 39, Marines Lance Cpl. Patrick T. O'Day, 20, Army 1st Lt. Osbaldo Orozco, 26, Army Pfc. Daniel R. Parker, 18, Army Staff Sgt. David S. Perry, 36, Army Spc. Justin W. Pollard, 21, Army Spc. Rel A. Ravago IV, 21, Marines Pfc. Jose Franci Gonzalez Rodriguez, 19, Marines Cpl. Randal Kent Rosacker, 21, Army Pvt. Sean A. Silva, 23, Marines Cpl. Erik H. Silva, 22, Marines 1st Sgt. Edward Smith, 38, Army Chief Warrant Officer Eric A. Smith, 42, Marines Lance Cpl. Jesus A. Suarez del Solar, 20, Marines Lance Cpl. Jason Andrew Tetrault, 20, Army Staff Sgt. Paul A. Velazquez, 29, Army Sgt. Ryan C. Young, 21, Army Staff Sgt. Daniel A. Bader, 28, Army Sgt. Thomas F. Broomhead, 34, Army Staff Sgt. Mark A. Lawton, 41, Army Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, 36, Army Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, 27, Army Staff Sgt. Barry Sanford Sr., 46, Marines Lance Cpl. Thomas J. Slocum, 22, Army Sgt. Michael E. Yashinski, 24, Army Pfc. Jeffrey F. Braun, 19, Marines Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, 22, Army Pfc. Anthony D. D'Agostino, 20, Army Staff Sgt. Richard S. Eaton Jr., 37, Army Spc. Wilfredo Perez Jr., 24, Army Spc. Darryl T. Dent, 21, Marines Lance Cpl. Gregory E. MacDonald, 29, Army Spc. Ryan P. Long, 21, Marines Sgt. Brian D. McGinnis, 23, Army Spc. Jarrett B. Thompson, 27, Marines Lance Cpl. Andrew Julian Aviles, 18, Marines Lance Cpl. Brian Rory Buesing, 20, Army Pfc. Michael Russell Creighton-Weldon, 20, Marines Lance Cpl. David K. Fribley, 26, Marines Cpl. Armando Ariel Gonzalez, 25, Army CWO Ian D. Manuel, 23, Army Sgt. Keman L. Mitchell, 24, Army Staff Sgt. Michael B. Quinn, 37, Army Cpl. John T. Rivero, 23, Army Cpl. Robert D. Roberts, 21, Army Pfc. Charles M. Sims, 18, Army Sgt. 1st Class Paul R. Smith, 33, Army CWO Aaron A. Weaver, 32, Army Pfc. Jeffrey Wershow, 22, Army Sgt. Mason Douglas Whetstone, 30, Army Spc. Robert A. Wise, 21, Army Spc. Jamaal R. Addison, 22, Army Sgt. Michael T. Crockett, 27, Army Staff Sgt. Ricky Crockett, 37, Army Staff Sgt. Wilbert Davis, 40, Army Spc. Marshall L. Edgerton, 27, Army Staff Sgt. Bobby C. Franklin, 38, Army Pvt. Benjamin L. Freeman, 19, Army Sgt. Nathaniel Hart Jr., 29, Army Spc. Christopher J. Holland, 26, Army Spc. Nathaniel H. Johnson, 22, Army Spc. John K. Klinesmith Jr., 25, Army Capt. Edward J. Korn, 31, Army Spc. David T. Nutt, 32, Army Pfc. Diego Fernando Rincon, 19, Army Command Sgt. Maj. Jerry L. Wilson, 45, Army Staff Sgt. Cameron B. Sarno, 43, Army Cpl. Richard P. Carl, 26, Army Pfc. Jerrick M. Petty, 25, Army Capt. James A. Shull, 32, Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone, 40, Marines Capt. Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, Army Pvt. Matthew D. Bush, 20, Army Spc. Ryan G. Carlock, 25, Army Spc. William David Dusenbery, 30, Marines Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, 30, Army Staff Sgt. Lincoln D. Hollinsaid, 27, Army Spc. Corey A. Hubbell, 20, Marines Cpl. Evan T. James, 20, Marines Lance Cpl. Nicholas Brian Kleiboeker, 19, Marines Lance Cpl. Jakub Henryk Kowalik, 21, Army Staff Sgt. Andrew R. Pokorny, 30, Army Pfc. Brandon Ramsey, 21, Army Spc. Brandon J. Rowe, 20, Marines 1st lt. Timothy Louis Ryan, 30, Army Spc. Uday Singh, 21, Army Pfc. Christopher A. Sisson, 20, Army 1st Lt. Brian D. Slavenas, 30, Army Spc. John R. Sullivan, 26, Army Staff Sgt. Michael J. Sutter, 28, Army Pvt. Scott M. Tyrrell, 21, Army Spc. Ronald D. Allen Jr., 22, Army Sgt. Jarrod W. Black, 26, Army Sgt. 1st Class Craig A. Boling, 38, Army Spc. Roy Russell Buckley, 24, Army Spc. Luke Frist, 20, Army Pvt. Jesse M. Halling, 19, Army Spc. William A. Jeffries, 39, Army Spc. Chad L. Keith, 21, Pvt. Robert L. McKinley, 23, Army Staff Sgt. Frederick L. Miller Jr., 27, Army Pvt. Shawn D. Pahnke, 25, Army Spc. Brian H. Penisten, 28, Marines Sgt. Duane R. Rios, 25, Army Spc. Gregory P. Sanders, 19, Cpl. Darrell Smith, 28 Marines Lance Cpl. Matthew R. Smith, 20, Marines Gunnery Sgt. Jeffrey E. Bohr Jr., 39, Army Pvt. Michael J. Deutsch, 21, Army Sgt. Paul F. Fisher, 39, Pvt. Kurt R. Frosheiser, 22, Army Pfc. David Kirchhoff, 31, Marines Sgt. Bradley S. Korthaus, 28, Army Pvt. Kenneth A. Nalley, 19, Army Spc. Aaron J. Sissel, 22, Army CWO Bruce A. Smith, 41, Army Sgt. Jacob L. Butler, 24, Marines Pfc. Ryan R. Cox, 19, Army Spc. Josph L. Lister, 22, Army Spc. Dustin K. McGaugh, 20, Army Spc. Kyle G. Thomas, 23, Army Sgt. Michael D. Acklin II, 25, Army Cpl. Gary B. Coleman, 24, Army Sgt. Darrin K. Potter, 24, Army Spc. James Powell, 26, Army Pfc. Wilfred D. Bellard, 20, Army Staff Sgt. Craig Davis, 37, Army Spc. Levi B. Kinchen, 21, Army Sgt. Floyd G. Knighten Jr., 55, Army Sgt. Taft V. Williams, 29, Marines Maj. Jay Thomas Aubin, 36, Army Spc. Daniel Francis J. Cunningham, 33, Army Sgt. Glenn R. Allison, 24, Army Staff Sgt. Joseph P. Bellavia, 28, Army Spc. Mathew G. Boule, 22, Army Staff Sgt. Joseph Camara, 40, Army Sgt. Justin W. Garvey, 23, Army Pfc. John D. Hart, 20, Army CWO3 Kyran E. Kennedy, 43, Marines 1st Lt. Brian M. McPhillips, 25, Marines Capt. Benjamin W. Sammis, 29, Navy Lt. Kylan A. Jones-Huffman, 31, Marines Cpl. Jason David Mileo, 20, Army Spc. George A. Mitchell, 35, Army Sgt. Jeffrey C. Walker, 33, Marines Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Waters-Bey, 29, Army Sgt. Trevor A. Blumberg, 22, Army Spc. Artimus D. Brassfield, 22, Army Pfc. Damian S. Bushart, 22, Army Capt. Paul J. Cassidy, 36, Army Staff Sgt. Thomas W. Christensen, 42, Marines Pfc. Juan Guadelupe Garza Jr., 20, Army Spc. Richard A. Goward, 32, Army Staff Sgt. Stephen C. Hattamer, 43, Army Staff Sgt. Paul J. Johnson, 29, Army Pfc. Jason M. Meyer, 23, Marines Maj. Kevin G. Nave, 36, Army Master Sgt. William L. Payne, 46, Army Sgt. Michael F. Pedersen, 26, Army Staff Sgt. Brett J. Petriken, 30, Army Sgt. Sean C. Reynolds, 25, Army Sgt. Todd J. Robbins, 33, Air Force Staff Sgt. Scott D. Sather, 29, Army Staff Sgt. Mark D. Vasquez, 35, Army Spc. Donald L. Wheeler, 22, Army Pfc. Jason G. Wright, 19, Army Sgt. Brian R. Hellermann, 35, Army Pfc. Edward J. Herrgott, 20, Army Staff Sgt. Dale A. Panchot, 26, Army Staff Sgt. Kenneth R. Bradley, 39, Army Spc. Larry K. Brown, 22, Army Cpl. Henry L. Brown, 22, Spc. James A. Chance III, 25, Marines 2nd Lt. Therrel S. Childers, 30, Army Spc. Raphael S. Davis, 24, Army Spc. Jeremy DiGiovanni, 21, Pfc. Damian L. Heidelberg, 21, Marines Sgt. Jonathan W. Lambert, 28, Army Staff Sgt. Joe N. Wilson, 30, Army Spc. Jonathan P. Barnes, 21, Spc. Joel L. Bertoldie, 20, Army Sgt. Travis Lee Burkhardt, 26, Army Pfc. Jesse A. Givens, 34, Marines Sgt. Nicolas M. Hodson, 22, Army Staff Sgt. Jamie L. Huggins, 26, Army Spc. Joshua M. Neusche, 20, Army Capt. Benedict J. Smith, 29, Army Pfc. Jeremiah D. Smith, 25, Army Sgt. Donald R. Walters, 33, Army 1st Lt. Edward M. Saltz, 27, Marines Lance Cpl. Brian E. Anderson, 26, Army Cpl. Mark A. Bibby, 25, Army Lunsford Brown II, 27, Army Lt. Col. Charles H. Buehring, 40, Army Pvt. Joseph R. Guerrera, 20, Marines Lance Cpl. Alan Dinh Lam, 19, Army Spc. James I. Lambert II, 22, Army Sgt. David B. Parson, 30, Army Sgt. Scott C. Rose, 30, Army Sgt. Leonard D. Simmons, 33, Army Sgt. Roderic A. Solomon, 32, Army Sgt. Michael L. Tosto, 24, Army Pfc. Joey D. Whitener, 19, Army Spc. Jon P. Fettig, 30, Army Pfc. Sheldon R. Hawk Eagle, 21, Army Sgt. Thomas J. Sweet II, 23, Army Sgt. 1st Class Robert E. Rooney, 43, Army Spc. Ryan Travis Baker, 24, Army Spc. Michael Edward Curtin, 23, Army Spc. Kyle A. Griffin, 20, Army Staff Sgt. Terry W. Hemingway, 39, Army Spc. Simeon Hunte, 23, Army Spc. Marlon P. Jackson, 25, Army Spc. Gil Mercado, 25, Army Sgt. 1st Class Gladimir Philippe, 37, Army Spc. Marc S. Seiden, 26, Army Spc. Narson B. Sullivan, 21, Army Spc. James H. Pirtle, 27, Marines Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett, 21, Amy Pfc. Charles E. Bush Jr., 43, Army Pvt. David Evans Jr., 18, Pfc. Jacob S. Fletcher, 28, Army Sgt. David Travis Friedrich Sgt., 26, Marines Cpl. Bernard G. Gooden, 22, 4 Army Pfc. Raheen Tyson Heighter, 22, Army Pfc. Gregory P. Huxley Jr., 19, Army Pfc. Rayshawn Johnson, 20, Army Staff Sgt. Kevin C. Kimmerly, 31, Army Sgt. Heath A. McMillin, 29, Army Spc. Irving Medina, 22, Marines Lance Cpl. Eric J. Orlowski, 26, Army Staff Sgt. Joseph E. Robsky Jr., 31, Marines Cpl. Robert M. Rodriguez, 21, Army Spc. Rasheed Sahib, 22, Marines Staff Sgt. Riayan A. Tejeda, 26, Marines Lance Cpl. William W. White, 24, Army Sgt. Eugene Williams, 24, Army Spc. Michael L. Williams, 46, Army Capt. George A. Wood, 33, Army Spc. Nathaniel A. Caldwell, 27, Army Sgt. Dennis A. Corral, 33, Marines Capt. Travis A. Ford, 30, Navy Petty Officer 3rd Class David J. Moreno, 26, Army Staff Sgt. Christopher W. Swisher, 26, Army Spc. James R. Wolf, 21, Army Capt. Joshua T. Byers, 29, Marines Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline Jr., 21, Marines 2nd Lt. Frederick E. Pokorney Jr., 31, Army Lt. Col. Dominic R. Baragona, 42, Army Spc. Todd M. Bates, 20, Army Spc. Brett T. Christian, 27, Army Spc. Steven D. Conover, 21, Army 1st Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, 38, Marines Pfc. Christian D. Gurtner, 19, Army Pfc. Gavin L. Neighbor, 20, Army Pfc. Branden F. Oberleitner, 20, Army Pfc. Kevin C. Ott, 27, Army Staff Sgt. Aaron T. Reese, 31, Army Pfc. Marlin T. Rockhold, 23, Army Pvt. Brandon Sloan, 19, Army Pfc. Kenneth C. Souslin, 21, Army Chief Warrant Officer Brian K. Van Dusen, 39, Army Spc. James C. Wright, 27, Marines Lance Cpl. Thomas A. Blair, 24, Navy Petty Officer 3rd Class Doyle W. Bollinger Jr., 21, Sgt. Ross A. Pennanen, 36, Army Spc. Stephen M. Scott, 21, Army Pvt. Jason M. Ward, 25, Army Sgt. Steven W. White, 29, Marines Staff Sgt. Aaron Dean White, 27, Army Spc. Joseph M. Blickenstaff, 23, Marines Cpl. Travis J. Bradach-Nall, 24, Portland, Ore., July 2 Marines Capt. Aaron J. Contreras, 31, Army CWO Erik C. Kesterson, 29, Army Spc. Nathan W. Nakis, 19, Army Staff Sgt. Robert A. Stever, 36, Army Spc. Brandon S. Tobler, 19, Army Spc. Christopher J. Rivera Wesley, 26, Army Capt. Tristan N. Aitken, 31,Sgt. Andrew Joseph Baddick, 26, Army 1st Lt. David R. Bernstein, 24, Army Staff Sgt. Stevon A. Booker, 34, Army Pfc. Timothy R. Brown Jr., 21, Army Sgt. Ernest G. Bucklew, 33, Army 1st Sgt. Christopher D. Coffin, 51, Army Staff Sgt. Christopher E. Cutchall, 30, Army Capt. Brian Faunce, 28, Army Spc. Michael T. Gleason, 25, Army Spc. Christopher A. Golby, 26, Army Sgt. Timothy L. Hayslett, 26, Army Sgt. Eric R. Hull, 23, Army Spc. Craig S. Ivory, 26, Army Spc. Maurice J. Johnson, 21, Army Spc. Zachariah W. 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Want another list, Dis?

Here is a list of the Americans killed in the United States since
President Bush retaliated against Al Queda.


None
 
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Want another list, Dis?

Here is a list of the Americans killed in the United States since
President Bush retaliated against Al Queda.


None
:clap: :clap: :clap:
 

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Want another list, Dis?

Here is a list of the Americans killed in the United States since
President Bush retaliated against Al Queda.


None

Indeed.

That said, I can already tell how Dis will respond: by bitching about the link between Iraq and Al qaeda. He/she refuses to see the bigger picture.

How is a strike against Iraq a strike against terrorism, Dis? Because we're in a war against ideas - be they islamofascist, or just dictatorial. The Middle East needed to be addressed, and Bush was the only President who was willing to do something. Despite his shortcomings, and even if he fails, at least Bush believed in America, which is more than you can say for yourself.
 
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Want another list, Dis?

Here is a list of the Americans killed in the United States since
President Bush retaliated against Al Queda.


None

Yep :)
 

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Dis seems to be like most liberals in that they want all of the freedoms they enjoy, but damn sure don't want to pay the price! Cowards, each and every one! :mad:
 
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Dis seems to be like most liberals in that they want all of the freedoms they enjoy, but damn sure don't want to pay the price! Cowards, each and every one! :mad:
Well done, Jinglebob! Cowards and terrorist allies.
 

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Here is a list I have compiled which list the people without enough discretion . Ones that would use the names of our countries finest to prove a stupid point. Ones that will try to win a stupid argument even if it means they have to hurt a family member by seeing their loved one posthomously used as a pawn.

1. Dis
 

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Here is a list I have compiled which list the people without enough discretion . Ones that would use the names of our countries finest to prove a stupid point. Ones that will try to win a stupid argument even if it means they have to hurt a family member by seeing their loved one posthomously used as a pawn.

1. Dis

I'm sure there are more who could be on that list.
 

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Want another list, Dis?

Here is a list of the Americans killed in the United States since
President Bush retaliated against Al Queda.


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Which had nothing to do with invading Iraq. So what's your point?
 

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mp.freelance said:
Cowpuncher said:
Want another list, Dis?

Here is a list of the Americans killed in the United States since
President Bush retaliated against Al Queda.


None

Indeed.

That said, I can already tell how Dis will respond: by bitching about the link between Iraq and Al qaeda. He/she refuses to see the bigger picture.

The big picture is that since George W. Bush chose to invade Iraq, it has become a training ground for terrorists. I say chose because Iraq posed no threat to this country.

How is a strike against Iraq a strike against terrorism, Dis? Because we're in a war against ideas - be they islamofascist, or just dictatorial. The Middle East needed to be addressed, and Bush was the only President who was willing to do something. Despite his shortcomings, and even if he fails, at least Bush believed in America, which is more than you can say for yourself.

Spin all you want, mp, but the truth is that Saddam ran a secular government, not an Islamic government. Who knows what sort of goverment will be there after we leave (and we are leaving). The current Shiite leaders in Iraq are very friendly with Iran.

Have you been keeping up with the elections in Egypt? The Bush Administration has been pushing Egypt to have "democratic" elections. They finally had elections and, guess what? A radical Islamic group has made great gains in those elections. Their support is so strong, the current goverment tried to stop the voting in some areas.

Oh, I believe in America. But my America doesn't allow prisoners to be tortured. Or to be flown around the world and delivered to countries that will torture them for us. My American takes care of its own, not spend billions in Iraq while thousands of residents of the Gulf Coast are still homeless and jobless. My America doesn't believe in telling consenting adults who they can sleep with or a husband how to care for his sick wife, or invade the privacy of a doctor's office.
 

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Jinglebob said:
Red Robin said:
Here is a list I have compiled which list the people without enough discretion . Ones that would use the names of our countries finest to prove a stupid point. Ones that will try to win a stupid argument even if it means they have to hurt a family member by seeing their loved one posthomously used as a pawn.

1. Dis

I'm sure there are more who could be on that list.

Yes, you can put George W. Bush on that list. In practically every speech he makes he uses the dead in Iraq as justification for sending more to die.
 

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Dis seems to be like most liberals in that they want all of the freedoms they enjoy, but damn sure don't want to pay the price! Cowards, each and every one! :mad:

And why aren't you in Iraq?
 
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Which had nothing to do with invading Iraq. So what's your point?
It has everything to do with invading Iraq, and all of the other radical Islamic countries on Rumsfeld's hit list. Take it to them before they bring it to us.

Of course, you pacifist wimps will never understand that. You'd much rather cower in anticipation with your hands over your ears and your head under the covers. Wimps.
 

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Red Robin said:
Here is a list I have compiled which list the people without enough discretion . Ones that would use the names of our countries finest to prove a stupid point. Ones that will try to win a stupid argument even if it means they have to hurt a family member by seeing their loved one posthomously used as a pawn.

1. Dis

Why is George Bush not on your list? In a recent speech, he read a letter from a young man who was killed in Iraq as an excuse to continue his war. Is that ok with you? Or is it only those who will use names to stop the killing that you disagagree with?

Speech after speech Bush uses our troops as a stage props to bolster his image. I find that disgusting.

I don't believe arguing about the war is a "stupid" argument. I think it's important and, finally, our elected representatives seem to be agreeing with me.
 

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