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Bill

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US ranchers fear disease from Mexican border-crossing cattle by Zachary Slobig
Wed Aug 9, 10:39 AM ET



PALOMINAS, United States (AFP) - Mexican free-range cattle wandering across the border into the United States could be ill with tuberculosis, hoof and mouth disease or mad-cow disease and infect US herds, ranchers in the border state of Arizona say.

Ranchers in southeastern Arizona said they have found it increasingly difficult to prevent their cattle from mingling with the Mexican animals when their property is located at some of the busiest entry points for undocumented immigrants along the 3,140 kilometer (1,951 mile) US-Mexico border.

For Jack Ladd, a third-generation cattleman whose ranch hugs the US-Mexico border for 16 kilometers (10 miles), the problem is escalating.

Mexican cattle wandering north and grazing on his land was once rare, more and more holes have appeared in his fences since the flow of illegal migrants has shifted away from urban entry points, where security has tightened, to places like southeastern Arizona.

"We just couldn't keep up with all the repairs," Ladd told AFP on his ranch southeast of the town of Palominas, as he drove south in his Jeep to inspect his property. "At the peak we've gotten 300 illegals coming through our ranch in a day."

In the last two years Ladd and his son have rounded up and returned more than 400 head of Mexican cattle.

The south side of the Ladd ranch is marked by an assortment of border barriers, from 4.6-meter (15-foot) tall corrugated steel barriers installed in 1994 to seven-strand barbed wire fences.

Last spring the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a militant, volunteer Arizona-based group opposed to illegal immigration, offered to build Ladd a fence.

The group saw Ladd's land as an ideal location for the prototype of their planned four-meter (14-foot) tall, Israeli-style containment barrier. The proposed structure would have two parallel fences topped with razor wire and surveillance cameras separated by an anti-vehicle ditch.

Chris Simcox, who heads the Minutemen, has said that he would like to see this type of barrier running the entire length of the US-Mexico border.

"It sounds like a grandiose plan," said rancher Dave Walker, a nephew of Ladd. But undocumented migrants are "gonna come anyway. You show me a 14-foot fence and I'll show you a 15-foot illegal pole vaulter."

Ladd passed on the proposed military style fence, believing it to be far more than he needed.

"That thing was a monstrosity," he said. "My concern isn't to keep people out, it's to keep cows contained."

The Minutemen recently completed a basic livestock containment fence on the Ladd ranch which runs nearly five kilometers (three miles).

A concern with livestock disease was the original reason for setting up a fence along the US-Mexico border in southeastern Arizona, according to Gary Thrasher, a local rancher and large animal veterinarian. The first fences were built by ranchers in response to Texas tick fever, he said.

Thrasher, a member of the Arizona Livestock Incident Response Team, has worked with livestock on both sides of the border for 35 years. Arizona livestock is susceptible to a host of diseases brought from the south, but foot and mouth disease concerns him most.

"These foreign animal diseases scare me to death," said Thrasher. "With all this fence-busting, you can't possibly keep a clean herd."

The San Pedro River, just west of the Ladd ranch, is a perfect example of possible disease conduit, Thrasher said. The state-owned land around the river is not properly fenced at the border, he said, creating a natural corridor that lets Mexican livestock wander as far as 80 kilometers (50 miles) north, mingling with local herds along the way.

"It's like leaving your back door open all the time," said Thrasher. "This could decimate the US cattle industry and in turn the entire US agriculture system."

Arizona livestock health authorities downplayed these alarms.

"We are fortunate here in Arizona to be adjacent to the Mexican state of Sonora which has no significant disease problem," said Katie Decker, of the Arizona State Veterinarian Office. "We have long had more things coming in from other US states than from south of the border."

Thrasher agrees that Sonora offers a disease buffer, but believes prevention must be a priority. He would like to see border fences maintained and patrolled by US Department of Agriculture quarantine officers.

"Unfortunately, it seems like no one will take foreign animal diseases seriously until there's some sort of poodle plague in Los Angeles," he said.

Did this make the R-Klan radar or is it too far south to be of interest?
 

Econ101

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Bill said:
US ranchers fear disease from Mexican border-crossing cattle by Zachary Slobig
Wed Aug 9, 10:39 AM ET



PALOMINAS, United States (AFP) - Mexican free-range cattle wandering across the border into the United States could be ill with tuberculosis, hoof and mouth disease or mad-cow disease and infect US herds, ranchers in the border state of Arizona say.

Ranchers in southeastern Arizona said they have found it increasingly difficult to prevent their cattle from mingling with the Mexican animals when their property is located at some of the busiest entry points for undocumented immigrants along the 3,140 kilometer (1,951 mile) US-Mexico border.

For Jack Ladd, a third-generation cattleman whose ranch hugs the US-Mexico border for 16 kilometers (10 miles), the problem is escalating.

Mexican cattle wandering north and grazing on his land was once rare, more and more holes have appeared in his fences since the flow of illegal migrants has shifted away from urban entry points, where security has tightened, to places like southeastern Arizona.

"We just couldn't keep up with all the repairs," Ladd told AFP on his ranch southeast of the town of Palominas, as he drove south in his Jeep to inspect his property. "At the peak we've gotten 300 illegals coming through our ranch in a day."

In the last two years Ladd and his son have rounded up and returned more than 400 head of Mexican cattle.

The south side of the Ladd ranch is marked by an assortment of border barriers, from 4.6-meter (15-foot) tall corrugated steel barriers installed in 1994 to seven-strand barbed wire fences.

Last spring the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a militant, volunteer Arizona-based group opposed to illegal immigration, offered to build Ladd a fence.

The group saw Ladd's land as an ideal location for the prototype of their planned four-meter (14-foot) tall, Israeli-style containment barrier. The proposed structure would have two parallel fences topped with razor wire and surveillance cameras separated by an anti-vehicle ditch.

Chris Simcox, who heads the Minutemen, has said that he would like to see this type of barrier running the entire length of the US-Mexico border.

"It sounds like a grandiose plan," said rancher Dave Walker, a nephew of Ladd. But undocumented migrants are "gonna come anyway. You show me a 14-foot fence and I'll show you a 15-foot illegal pole vaulter."

Ladd passed on the proposed military style fence, believing it to be far more than he needed.

"That thing was a monstrosity," he said. "My concern isn't to keep people out, it's to keep cows contained."

The Minutemen recently completed a basic livestock containment fence on the Ladd ranch which runs nearly five kilometers (three miles).

A concern with livestock disease was the original reason for setting up a fence along the US-Mexico border in southeastern Arizona, according to Gary Thrasher, a local rancher and large animal veterinarian. The first fences were built by ranchers in response to Texas tick fever, he said.

Thrasher, a member of the Arizona Livestock Incident Response Team, has worked with livestock on both sides of the border for 35 years. Arizona livestock is susceptible to a host of diseases brought from the south, but foot and mouth disease concerns him most.

"These foreign animal diseases scare me to death," said Thrasher. "With all this fence-busting, you can't possibly keep a clean herd."

The San Pedro River, just west of the Ladd ranch, is a perfect example of possible disease conduit, Thrasher said. The state-owned land around the river is not properly fenced at the border, he said, creating a natural corridor that lets Mexican livestock wander as far as 80 kilometers (50 miles) north, mingling with local herds along the way.

"It's like leaving your back door open all the time," said Thrasher. "This could decimate the US cattle industry and in turn the entire US agriculture system."

Arizona livestock health authorities downplayed these alarms.

"We are fortunate here in Arizona to be adjacent to the Mexican state of Sonora which has no significant disease problem," said Katie Decker, of the Arizona State Veterinarian Office. "We have long had more things coming in from other US states than from south of the border."

Thrasher agrees that Sonora offers a disease buffer, but believes prevention must be a priority. He would like to see border fences maintained and patrolled by US Department of Agriculture quarantine officers.

"Unfortunately, it seems like no one will take foreign animal diseases seriously until there's some sort of poodle plague in Los Angeles," he said.

Did this make the R-Klan radar or is it too far south to be of interest?

You know its covered, Bill, GW has already sent the national guard. :wink:
 

Manitoba_Rancher

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Last I heard on the news was they couldnt keep people from crossing over into the US from Mexico so it might be hard to keep cattle out.... better send OT down there to help Haymaker round them up....... :wink:
 

Bill

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Manitoba_Rancher said:
Last I heard on the news was they couldnt keep people from crossing over into the US from Mexico so it might be hard to keep cattle out.... better send OT down there to help Haymaker round them up....... :wink:
Seeing as how they are so concerned about the health and safety of the US cattle herd, those "diseased" Mexican cattle ought to be right at the top of their list .

Mind you the Arizona State Vets office did say "We have long had more things coming in from other US states than from south of the border." I wonder what she meant by that?
 
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Bill- You must have missed the post a couple months ago I put on where lobbying from R-CALF, NCBA, and several other local Ag groups had shut down cattle imports from several Mexican states...So some are concerned about that area too...

You need to be little more discerning there Bill- since you guys now opened the Border for the Packer boys to send all this unlabeled junk north, too :wink: :lol: :lol:

I read an interesting article the other day where the Tyson/Cargil boys are out looking at countries to find immigrant laborers from to bring into Canada to work their plants...They'll give Canucks a lesson on border jumping, communtiy welfare, and how to raise a standard of living :wink: :lol:
 

Tam

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PALOMINAS, United States (AFP) - Mexican free-range cattle wandering across the border into the United States could be ill with tuberculosis, hoof and mouth disease or mad-cow disease and infect US herds, ranchers in the border state of Arizona say.


Gee Mexico could have BSE and by their cattle wandering across the border will infect the US herds. Are the US producers doing to chase them back like they do with any other neighbors cattle or are they going to load them up and haul them to a slaughter house and have their SRM's processed into cattle feed? :roll:
 

Bill

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Oldtimer said:
Bill- You must have missed the post a couple months ago I put on where lobbying from R-CALF, NCBA, and several other local Ag groups had shut down cattle imports from several Mexican states...So some are concerned about that area too...

You need to be little more discerning there Bill- since you guys now opened the Border for the Packer boys to send all this unlabeled junk north, too :wink: :lol: :lol:

I read an interesting article the other day where the Tyson/Cargil boys are out looking at countries to find immigrant laborers from to bring into Canada to work their plants...They'll give Canucks a lesson on border jumping, communtiy welfare, and how to raise a standard of living :wink: :lol:
Sure seems like most of your posts have dealt with all that is wrong with Canada as opposed to Mexico. Here we have "diseased" Mexican cattle wandering into the US herd at their leisure and the focus of R-Klan and its mouthpieces is 99% at the Canadian border and in fact Oldtimer you did it in this post.

When in doubt turn it against Canada and the packers!!!!!!!!!
 
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Anonymous

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Bill said:
When in doubt turn it against Canada and the packers!!!!!!!!!

Canucks are funnest to pick on....Watching them peek in every nook and cranny and looking under their beds for Boogyman Bullard- then when you do catch them they squeal the loudest :wink: :lol:
 

HAY MAKER

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Bill said:
Oldtimer said:
Bill- You must have missed the post a couple months ago I put on where lobbying from R-CALF, NCBA, and several other local Ag groups had shut down cattle imports from several Mexican states...So some are concerned about that area too...

You need to be little more discerning there Bill- since you guys now opened the Border for the Packer boys to send all this unlabeled junk north, too :wink: :lol: :lol:

I read an interesting article the other day where the Tyson/Cargil boys are out looking at countries to find immigrant laborers from to bring into Canada to work their plants...They'll give Canucks a lesson on border jumping, communtiy welfare, and how to raise a standard of living :wink: :lol:
Sure seems like most of your posts have dealt with all that is wrong with Canada as opposed to Mexico. Here we have "diseased" Mexican cattle wandering into the US herd at their leisure and the focus of R-Klan and its mouthpieces is 99% at the Canadian border and in fact Oldtimer you did it in this post.

When in doubt turn it against Canada and the packers!!!!!!!!!

canada and packers are the ones creating the captive supply that is used to manipulate the markets,add the fact they have several cases of post feed ban "BSE" and several instances of feed ban violations and it becomes obvious why the focus is on canada..........good luck
 
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