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Col. Allen West's wife, Angela wrote this

ranch hand

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Is Cliven Bundy a racist?

When I lived in New York I worked at Clairol during the day in the marketing department of the professional products division. I had a great time and LOVED to go to work, but there was one problem........ I only made $38K per year. A real pittance in New York.... so I had to find another way to make money. I started an "apartment matching" business. In other words, I matched people with available apartments for rent. For that they paid me, in cash, 16% of the year's rent prior to getting a lease and keys. I soon made several times my yearly salary, still kept my job and loved it even more because I never suffered from the "short money" syndrome again. AND I met people....


My partner was a Chinese woman who owned the real estate franchise of ReMax and basically she told me "this is business and we are the color of green"...... most of the people you meet will "let down their hair" and reveal to you all types of "pettyfoggery" .... actually that was not the word she used but I want to keep it clean. And I found out quickly that the most liberal, ethereal, earth-shoe wearing, animal kissing, vegan, "people loving" liberal landlords wanted me to make sure that I did not bring them "God forbid": Blacks (they never pay on time), Puerto Ricans (they don't pay on time and are too loud); Indians (they pay on time but cook smelly foods), "mixed couples (too much trouble). AND because I have a tendency to never let anyone know what I am thinking...... they let their collective hair down, I stoically stared at them and I got plenty of clients. Everyday as I got into my apartment, there were at least 12 - 20 requests..... on the answering machine. There were "code-words" ..... "I only want Americans"; "Angela, I love you BUT you are different"....etc... Italians wanted Italians - no Blacks or Spanish; Jewish were stratified by orthodoxy or non-religious as well as original geography; Not all Spanish are the same.... those from Europe are different from the Puerto Ricans or the Dominicans; Jamaicans don't want African Americans.....; Jamaicans don't want Haitians; Jamaicans don't like anyone; Africans don't like anyone but other Africans and so forth. You get the picture.... I complied and made a six figure living.

People have biases. PERIOD.

There was one other thing that happened.... during my stint as "the apartment finder" ...... some hours during my weekends, I found it necessary to "stage" the apartment. In other words, I got down on my hands and knees and cleaned those suckers from "top to bottom". The last thing that I wanted was to open up the door, with a client, turn on the lights and watch the roaches scatter. You see...that is what happens when lights are shined on roaches..... they get scared and they scatter. Much like the people who prior to this day supported Mr. Cliven Bundy. They scattered just like roaches.

Mr. Cliven Bundy told you exactly what he thought. Here he is a rancher, probably does not possess much of a diverse friendship circle, a bit unsophisticated in the city was of deception...... so he got a bit carried away, unlike those who mask their feelings behind an accepting facade. He said....:

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

You see, Cliven Bundy expressed HIS views. And speaking from HIS point of view, Black people are chronically unemployed , they don't go to school, the young girls get pregnant at alarming rates and they abort their children. He might have read that more Black babies are aborted in places such as Mississippi, Georgia and Florida, than are given a chance to live. He might have read that a disproportionate amount of young Black men commit violent crimes than should. He might have read a little about Detroit and Chicago. I don't know where he formulated his views but they are just that ..... HIS views.

AND his views are no less offensive than Rev Al Sharpton's views,his words, the riots he has incited, the lives he has destroyed; no less offensive than Illinois Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn suggesting that Black Republicans are similar to Jewish Nazis. No less ugly than the Commander in Chief inciting racial tensions by attacking the police for doing their job in his friend Henry Gates neighborhood or declaring a slain young Black man as his long lost unborn son. No less offensive than the article I read this morning in the New York Times equating the propensity of Southern whites to be members of the Republican Party to Jim Crow and in bedded racism. So uncritical and lousy in their thinking....... What inference do they make about the fact that the majority of Blacks join the Democrat Party.... or is that OK? Because it is important to categorize Blacks in the "right" category.

Well, right or wrong, he was honest about what he felt. And THAT is HIS right. He was far more honest than the fawning white males on MSNBC calling that race hustler Al Sharpton..... "reverend". Blushing and dancing around with pursed lips the way that they do to please this unlearned, revered with no church..... leading his people backwards to an abyss. He is more honest than the "conservative" supporters, who now scatter as the light is shined on them, who never understood that this was never about whether or not Cliven Bundy is a racist.....

So, maybe he IS a racist, and as well so are a lot of people, they just hide it well and they "hate" the "right" people..... You know... white males and females, rich white males and females, Republican white males and females, Black conservatives... who are the new "Jewish Nazis" and any other conservative of ANY and ALL stripes. Now you can say ANYTHING about them!

But..... this was never about race, or sex, or homosexuality, or the war on women (the left's pet gripes). What happened was simply this..... The Bureau of Land Management claims Bundy has let his cattle graze on federal land without paying since 1993, saying he now owes more than $1 million in grazing fees. When federal agents came to confront Bundy about the fees, the militarized BLM, SWAT teams and all, trained sights on the Bundy family and their supporters, then cameras were turned on the aggressors, who then retreated.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/why-the-land-belongs-to-bundy/#kGuu6JzxfjZUZ86S.99

If not for the television cameras, the family might have been massacred by their own government, much to the glee of the Senator Harry Reid, who continued to threaten as though he were a feudal lord. This is a man, Cliven Bundy, who happens to be the LAST Nevada rancher standing. The politicians are running for cover pointing fingers and denouncing each other, hiding beneath their opulent desks...... There are no better causes in today's world.... to these politicians .... except homosexuality, pardoning illegal behavior, putting prisoners on the streets, giving handouts, legalizing drugs and other "pettyfoggery" - not the real word but we keep it clean here.

A leader will emerge from the outside and he/she won't have the soft cushioned hands and lacquered nails of the "professional pointer" aka politician. We won't find this leader among the roaches. They will be too scattered.
 

Mike

Well-known member
Thanks for that read. She is a wise woman............

In my 30 years of being in business for myself and talking to customers all over, I have learned a lot about people from the many phone conversations that sometimes get personal.

One thing I have learned. People all over the U.S. are somewhat racist to a degree. Some won't talk about it until they get to know you well and others let you know right up front.

Just being in Alabama many times starts the race talk by itself. For some reason everyone thinks everyone here is.

If someone tells me flat out they are not, it's time to roll the pants legs up.

The BS is soon to follow.
 

DustDevil

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Ooorah ! ( I hope that doesn't look like Oprah ) Well said, Mrs. West.
I don't think Mr. Bundy meant that blacks were better off as slaves, but damn sure little better off or no better off on the Government Plantation. I appreciate his observation, it's just kinda coming down in the media like Clayton Williams' "rape comment".
 

hypocritexposer

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Great article, thanks. and Mike...I think what you considered Racism, on the part of others, is most likely not Racism.

This definition isn't bad, from Wikipedia

Racism is actions, practices or beliefs, or social or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.

Saying that Blacks abort children at a higher rate than whites, is not racist, because it is most often not blamed on the genetics of Blacks....IMO.

When did stating the truth, become "racist".

I do not believe blacks are inferior to whites, but I do believe they have some cultural problems, they need to sort out.

But when someone like Rand Paul mentions anything to that effect, he/she is called a racist
 

Tam

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hypocritexposer said:
But when someone like Rand Paul mentions anything to that effect, he/she is called a racist

Bingo any non-African American or Conservative person/politician talking about the problems in African American communities are considered racists.

What Bundy said would likely not be thought of as racist if an African American said it but Bundy is not a African American just like Rand Paul is not. The Liberal media were paying no attention to this case as to them it was a case against their causes but those tides radically turned when he opened his mouth and made those comments, Now this case turned from a case against the BLM to something the liberal media can use to claim Conservatives are nothing but a bunch of racists. Right or not Conservatives either distance themselves from him and his comments as fast as possible or they can kiss whatever support they might steal away from the Dems in the those communities in 2014 election GOOD BYE.

Bundy's comments and the way they were covered by a media looking to destroy his fight against the Obama Administration made support for him and his case toxic to any one wanting to work to convince the Left supporters that they are being USED.
 

Steve

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I haven't read what Bundy said in it's entirety..

I live in New Jersey... at the Jersey shore...

we get people from Philadelphia "escaping" the city..

we get new Yorkers.. "escaping" the city..

and on the way here, while they are hear and when they leave.. well many act like jackasses ,.. and being from the city.. most are far left liberals.. ( BTW union guys are the worse.. )

not sure when I became numb to the words of racism..

I would say by the time obama was elected, the words no longer mattered..

sadly it wasn't because we finally crossed all lines and elected a person of color.. nope it was because I just got tired of every comment against Obama was considered racism..




when I was in the service.. I knew the rules.. a sailor was a sailor.. some were good and some needed a bit of adjusting..

but now.. I can't figure out the rules..


like what they want to be called now?

can we talk about race issues ?..

my guess is the only way to "talk about the race issues" is to start be being prepared to be called names..



but isn't ironic that they are offended by US using the wrong words that they take as an insult.. yet they call every one who disagrees with the liberal policy of the month a racist..


note to liberals.. if you want to help minorities... fix the economy and get them a job..

if you want to help minorities,.. fix their schools and fire incompetent teachers..

if you want to help minorities,.. clean up the crime in their neighborhoods or let them have a gun so they can at least defend themselves against thugs with guns...

one thing that will not help minorities is by bringing in more wage earners.. (illegal and refugee immigrants.. )

and another way you are not helping them is calling US names..

it doesn't bother me anymore to be called a racist. just don't expect me to respect you and step in to help you destroy what is left of our once proud minority communities..


as for the minorities.. as a Christian we should reach out every day..
and if that doesn't work..
Matthew 10:14










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