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Communist Van Jones resigns

Tam

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"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide."

They are using lies. :roll: Everything against this idiot is on youtube showing him calling Republicans names, him comparing Bush to a crack head, him talking about whites poisoning minorities. He signed the petition and the group said they verified all signatures so the person knew what they were signing. And he is a self-described communist. And we are to believe they are using lies :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Tam said:
"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide."

They are using lies. :roll: Everything against this idiot is on youtube showing him calling Republicans names, him comparing Bush to a crack head, him talking about whites poisoning minorities. He signed the petition and the group said they verified all signatures so the person knew what they were signing. And he is a self-described communist. And we are to believe they are using lies :roll:

All anybody did was bring up what he had said and what he had done, but this POS claims it was a smear campaign. Don't you just love liberal politicians?

The real question that libs need to answer is; What does it say about Obama's core that he would surround himself with thet likes of Van Jones?
 

Whitewing

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Sandhusker said:
Tam said:
"On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in his resignation statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide."

They are using lies. :roll: Everything against this idiot is on youtube showing him calling Republicans names, him comparing Bush to a crack head, him talking about whites poisoning minorities. He signed the petition and the group said they verified all signatures so the person knew what they were signing. And he is a self-described communist. And we are to believe they are using lies :roll:

All anybody did was bring up what he had said and what he had done, but this POS claims it was a smear campaign. Don't you just love liberal politicians?

The real question that libs need to answer is; What does it say about Obama's core that he would surround himself with thet likes of Van Jones?

At least the president is consistent.
 

Tam

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Whitewing said:
Sandhusker said:
Tam said:
They are using lies. :roll: Everything against this idiot is on youtube showing him calling Republicans names, him comparing Bush to a crack head, him talking about whites poisoning minorities. He signed the petition and the group said they verified all signatures so the person knew what they were signing. And he is a self-described communist. And we are to believe they are using lies :roll:

All anybody did was bring up what he had said and what he had done, but this POS claims it was a smear campaign. Don't you just love liberal politicians?

The real question that libs need to answer is; What does it say about Obama's core that he would surround himself with thet likes of Van Jones?

At least the president is consistent.

Consistantly showing BAD judgement. :wink:
 

Whitewing

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Seeing this sort of thing happening so soon in this administration reminds me of the joke about the scorpion and the frog. Please forgive me if you've heard it, but it really does apply IMHO.

A frog and scorpion find themselves stranded on an ever-decreasing island of land as flood waters rise around them. The frog, of course, is unconcerned as he can simply swim away. The scorpion is not so lucky.

Finally, the scorpion asks the frog if he'll give him a ride over to the other side so he can survive the flood. The frog declines, telling him he's fearful that half-way across the scorpion will sting, paralyzing him and causing him to drown.

The scorpion comments that that would be a really dumb thing to do as they would then BOTH surely drown.

This makes sense to the frog so he lets the scorpion climb aboard and away they go.
 

hypocritexposer

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Whitewing said:
Seeing this sort of thing happening so soon in this administration reminds me of the joke about the scorpion and the frog. Please forgive me if you've heard it, but it really does apply IMHO.

A frog and scorpion find themselves stranded on an ever-decreasing island of land as flood waters rise around them. The frog, of course, is unconcerned as he can simply swim away. The scorpion is not so lucky.

Finally, the scorpion asks the frog if he'll give him a ride over to the other side so he can survive the flood. The frog declines, telling him he's fearful that half-way across the scorpion will sting, paralyzing him and causing him to drown.

The scorpion comments that that would be a really dumb thing to do as they would then BOTH surely drown.

This makes sense to the frog so he lets the scorpion climb aboard and away they go.

So does the scorpion slowly boil the frog, in a pot, on the other side?
 

Whitewing

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Seeing this sort of thing happening so soon in this administration, and the reaction of many who respond, reminds me of the joke about the scorpion and the frog. Please forgive me if you've heard the joke, but it really does apply IMHO.

A frog and scorpion find themselves stranded on an ever-decreasing island of land as flood waters rise around them. The frog, of course, is unconcerned as he can simply swim away. The scorpion is not so lucky as he cannot swim.

Finally, the scorpion asks the frog if he'll give him a ride over to the other side so he can survive the flood. The frog declines, telling him he's fearful that half-way across the scorpion will sting, paralyzing him and causing him to drown.

The scorpion responds that that would be a really dumb thing to do as they would then BOTH surely drown.

This makes sense to the frog so he lets the scorpion climb aboard and away they go.

Half-way to the other side, BAM, the scorpion stings the frog. As the now paralyzed frog struggles for his life, he looks at the scorpion and ask how he could possibly have done such a stupid thing.

The scorpion responds, "it's in my nature".
 

hypocritexposer

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September 06, 2009
Hats Off to WND
Joseph Ashby

Van Jones’ ouster has come on the heals of some truly magnificent reporting. Radio and TV host Glenn Beck has received a lot of credit for putting the pressure on the Obama Administration to cut Jones loose. We are all grateful to Beck for using his megaphone to take on such an important issue.

What many may not know is that Aaron Klein of WorldNetDaily.com is responsible for much of the original reporting on the now former Green Jobs Czar. A WND blog alert email was sent out today highlighting Klein’s work:

In April, Aaron Klein, Jerusalem bureau chief for WND.com, broke the first major story on Jones who was identified as a self-described radical communist and "rowdy black nationalist" who said his environmental activism was actually a means to fight for racial and class "justice."

While talk radio and cable television picked up WND's reporting and increased the pressure on the administration to cut Jones loose, there was no significant coverage of the scandal by the major U.S. news media until September.

Jones’ resignation represents a sea change in media. Decades ago, it would have been impossible to oust an administration official without major coverage voluntarily carried out by the network and print media. In more recent times, the new media has been able to pressure mainstream sources into covering a story which otherwise would have been ignored. The Van Jones story is the first situation where a high ranking political official was forced to resign without any pressure from major print newspapers or network TV coverage.

In other words, the new media is a self-sustaining force with the power to reach the highest levels of power.

Our hats are off to World Net Daily and Aaron Klein for their great work.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/09/hats_off_to_wnd.html
 

Whitewing

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In April, Aaron Klein, Jerusalem bureau chief for WND.com, broke the first major story on Jones who was identified as a self-described radical communist and "rowdy black nationalist" who said his environmental activism was actually a means to fight for racial and class "justice."

Who could have guessed?
 

hypocritexposer

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David Horowitz has some experience with these types. His parents were card carrying members. Here's an interesting interview.

part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W276ICvVAd4&feature=related

part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B4H4C4dFHs

Here's a good 6 part article written by Horowitz, if you missed it.

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=405790&highlight=van+jones#405790
 

hypocritexposer

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reader (the Second) said:
Van Jones's Resignation Reveals Vetting Lapse

By Scott Wilson and Garance Franke-Ruta
Washington Post Staff Writers
Sunday, September 6, 2009 3:38 PM

The resignation of White House environmental adviser Van Jones has revealed a lapse in the administration's vetting procedures that, nearly eight months into his tenure, delivered President Obama with an unwelcome distraction as he begins an important week on behalf of his health-care reform initiative.

Jones's resignation late Saturday came amid spreading calls for his ouster by Republicans leaders, who have been critical of past statements and associations that have also taken the White House by surprise. His departure as a top adviser to the White House Council on Environmental Quality leaves Obama's push to create so-called green jobs, which he has called an essential element of the more stable economy is trying to build, without a leader.

White House spokesman Robert Gibbs on Sunday explained the resignation on ABC's "This Week with George Stephanopoulos," saying Jones "decided that the agenda of this president was bigger than any one individual." The president does not endorse Jones's past statements and actions, Gibbs said, "but he thanks him for his service."

Jones, a towering figure in the environmental movement, had issued two public apologies in recent days. One was for signing a petition in 2004 from the group 911Truth.org that questioned whether Bush administration officials "may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war," and the other for using a crude term to describe Republicans in a speech he gave before joining the administration.

His previous involvement with the now-defunct Bay Area radical group Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM), which had Marxist roots, also emerged as an issue. And on Saturday his advocacy on behalf of death-row inmate Mumia Abu-Jamal, who was convicted of shooting a Philadelphia police officer in 1981, threatened to further widen the controversy.

A White House official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss a personnel matter, said Sunday that Jones's past was not studied as intensively as other advisers because of his relatively low rank.

Jones's position, for example, did not require Senate confirmation. So he avoided the kind of vetting Cabinet officials were subjected to.

Those procedures were tightened during the transition after a history of unpaid taxes emerged during the confirmation of two high-profile nominees -- Timothy F. Geithner and Thomas A. Daschle. Geithner was later confirmed as treasury secretary, but Daschle withdrew from consideration as Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Moreover, as an adviser to the Council on Environmental Quality, rather than to Obama directly, Jones's past was not reviewed to the same degree as the more senior "assistants to the president" and other top advisers inside the West Wing. The result was the recent revelations that, administration officials acknowledge, caught the White House off guard.

"He was not as thoroughly vetted as other administration officials," the official said. "It's fair to say there were unknowns."

The announcement that Jones was stepping down came minutes after midnight Sunday morning. In a written statement, Jones said, "On the eve of historic fights for health care and clean energy, opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me. They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide."

He continued: "I have been inundated with calls -- from across the political spectrum -- urging me to 'stay and fight.' But I came here to fight for others, not for myself. I cannot in good conscience ask my colleagues to expend precious time and energy defending or explaining my past. We need all hands on deck, fighting for the future."

Fox News Channel host Glenn Beck launched the drive against Jones. Beck's campaign grew more vitriolic after a group Jones founded in 2005, ColorofChange.org, led an advertising boycott against his show to protest Beck's assertion that Obama is a racist.

Republican calls for Jones to step down have growing over the weekend. Rep. Mike Pence (R-Ind.) called on Jones to resign Friday, saying in a statement, "His extremist views and coarse rhetoric have no place in this administration or the public debate."

Senator Christopher S. Bond (R-Mo.) urged Congress to investigate Jones's "fitness" for the position, writing in an open letter, "Can the American people trust a senior White House official that is so cavalier in his association with such radical and repugnant sentiments?" On Saturday, Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, wrote on his Twitter account, "Van Jones has to go."

It became clear Friday, after Gibbs declined to defend Jones, that a resignation was likely in the offing. Gibbs said only that Jones "continues to work for the administration" -- but did not state that the adviser enjoyed the full support of President Obama.

Jones had worked for the administration's environmental council since March. He was a civil-rights activist in California before turning to environmental and energy issues, and he won wide praise before joining the Obama administration for articulating a broad vision of a green economy Democrats could embrace.

"The political environment is rough, and so these things get magnified," David Axelrod, an Obama senior adviser, said on NBC's "Meet the Press." "But the bottom line is that he showed his commitment to the cause of creating green jobs in this country by removing himself as an issue, and I think that took a great deal of commitment on his part."

Vetting my butt. Hiring czars is a workaround of the Senate confirmation process. That's why Obama has about 30 or them. He knows dang well they would never be vetted.

And the Washington post and all other MSM have the opportunity and responsibility to do some vetting on their own. Most are in the bag and refuse.

I suppose it was another "conspiracy theory" when WND and Glen Beck were doing the vetting of Van Jones.

Is it more likely that Obama vouched for him. Or that the FBI did not do their jobs when screening him?

Don't fool yourself, Obama knew all about Jones. He thought he could slip another one by.

JARRETT: Oooh. Van Jones, alright! So, Van Jones. We were so delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House. We were watching him, uh, really, he’s not that old, for as long as he’s been active out in Oakland. And all the creative ideas he has. And so now, we have captured that. And we have all that energy in the White House.

but this would fit right in with Jarrett's associates.

Frank Marshall Davis was active in the Chicago Communist Party until he moved to Hawaii in late 1948.

I have since found conclusive evidence that Davis and Jarrett not only knew each other, but worked together in another Communist Party dominated organisation-The Citizen's Committee to Aid Packing House Workers.

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Whitewing

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IF (and that's a big IF in my opinion) the FBI looked into this guy and didn't come back with any of the stuff that's shown up on youtube, what does that say about their ability to dig up facts on a person of interest?

If they did find these things and reported them to the proper contacts in the White House, what does that say about the WH vetting process?

Either way, scary stuff. Scary indeed.
 

Whitewing

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Jones' a-hole comments don't bother me in the least. They may not be appropriate for a White House employee to use in public, but he didn't make them (as far as I'm aware) while working for the WH.

Politics is a blood sport so name-calling's really no big deal.

The problem I had with the guy is his rather radical past and his avowed communist leanings. Many operatives with communist leanings use "green" as a cover, a means to bring about the social change they desire without having to admit just how far they'd really like to take things.

Jones was apparently one of them.
 
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Whitewing
How stable is the Government? I've long said that dictators are good for business.
Whitewing
Fortunately here in Venezuela the Chavez government is actually making a big push for domestic food production (the country imports way too much of its food needs) and is rewarding those who make the effort with guaranteed grain prices, low-interest loans, and other government help.

I'm actually very excited about the future here for ranching and continue to make improvements in my place.

You know the thing that makes me chuckle is that the rightwingernut extremists will jump on board with and backslap an anonymous person that claims/says they are a former residenct of Louisiana and earned their living thru the graces of the good old USA-- but that decided to take their retirement/investment earnings/inheritance and invest in not only a communist country- but probably the most US hating communist country in the western hemisphere-- and the country that has stated most often they want to see the US toppled... :shock: :roll: :???:

And the on top of that tells how well that communist government supports agriculture-- but then chastises and condemns someone in the current US administration they think is communist and attacking an Obama appointee that has talked in favor of what some believe are socialist ideas...

Reminds me of the hypocritical tyranny that Hypo promotes in his hope to bring down the country :( :(
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Whitewing
How stable is the Government? I've long said that dictators are good for business.
Whitewing
Fortunately here in Venezuela the Chavez government is actually making a big push for domestic food production (the country imports way too much of its food needs) and is rewarding those who make the effort with guaranteed grain prices, low-interest loans, and other government help.

I'm actually very excited about the future here for ranching and continue to make improvements in my place.

You know the thing that makes me chuckle is that the rightwingernut extremists will jump on board with and backslap an anonymous person that claims/says they are a former residenct of Louisiana and earned their living thru the graces of the good old USA-- but that decided to take their retirement/investment earnings/inheritance and invest in not only a communist country- but probably the most US hating communist country in the western hemisphere-- and the country that has stated most often they want to see the US toppled... :shock: :roll: :???:

And the on top of that tells how well that communist government supports agriculture-- but then chastises and condemns someone in the current US administration they think is communist- while attacking an Obama appointee that has talked in favor of what some believe are socialist ideas...

Reminds me of the hypocritical tyranny that Hypo promotes in his hope to bring down the country :( :(

Well OT, you'll learn as you watch my posting habits that I call 'em like I see 'em, left or right, conservative or liberal.

You make some rather sweeping judgments about my personal life decisions, and what I "claim" to be, without knowing very much about me at all, especially what made me want to settle in Venezuela. Well, she was murdered over two years ago and was the love of my life. Her family (now my family) literally saved my life from the terrible, debilitating depression I sank into after her loss and I'll forever be grateful to them. But that's really a story for another day.

You also make some rather sweeping comments about Chavez and Venezuela, again, probably without fully understanding the history and culture of this country. Venezuela is not a communist country as you claim. Chavez was elected democratically as best anyone can tell. And living here, working with the citizens, I can honestly say that he is on average probably much more respected than Bush ever was or Obama ever will be. I don't agree with much of what he says or does, but I do agree with some of the things he's trying to do to help the poorest of the poor. I need not apologize to anyone for that.

I also note you failed to quote my comments of approval of Obama's decision to embrace and follow much of the Bush/Cheney doctrine as it relates to the war on terror. He surprised me there I must admit, but like I said, I give credit where credit is due.

Even though I don't know you or anyone else here yet for that matter, your post was surprising to me. It's got a really bitter tone to it. I'm not sure what I've done to you to earn such bitterness on your part, other than perhaps not agreeing with you on some political issues. I hope I'm wrong about that bitterness.

Having said all that, you can still count on me to post honestly and can consider me a friend if you so chose. :wink:
 

loomixguy

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Now that Glenn Beck was successful in getting that negro communist advisor to resign.....any bets as to when and where Glenn will have his fatal "accident"?

I would think that Sheriff Soak 'Ems would love Hugo Chavez.....he loves Barry......or is it just Bush and pants peeing right wingernut tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy theorists that the old curmudgeon hates? Eh?
 
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