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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Congress approved a $3.4 trillion budget for the coming year Wednesday, approving most of President Obama's key spending priorities including increasing in health care, education and alternative energy spending.
Congress approved a budget plan Wednesday, President Obama's 100th day in office.

The spending plan passed without a single Republican vote in either the House or Senate.

The Senate voted for the plan 53-43. Four Democrats, including recent party-switcher Sen. Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania, voted against it.

Earlier, the House approved the budget 233-193, with 17 Democrats voting against it.
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Major health care reform is likely to pass this year because the special process, known as budget reconciliation, won't allow Republicans to filibuster the legislation, as was widely expected.

Democrats, who control 59 seats in the Senate, will be able to pass it with a simple majority vote instead of the 60 needed to overcome a filibuster.

Senate Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, D-North Dakota, said he didn't believe that the Senate would need to use reconciliation but noted that it is "there as an insurance policy."
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Under the Democratic plan, the federal government will run an anticipated deficit of $1.2 trillion in the next fiscal year. Their plan promises to cut the deficit by more than half by 2012.

"It is clear that more will be needed to address the long-term fiscal imbalance confronting the nation beyond the five-year budget window," Conrad said.

Under the compromise plan, increases in non-defense discretionary spending are limited to 2.9 percent through 2014. Obama's signature tax cuts from the stimulus plan -- $400 for individuals and $800 for couples -- are slated to expire after 2010.

The measure also allows former President George W. Bush's tax cuts for couples who make more than $250,000 to expire in 2010.
 

Sandhusker

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"Their plan promises to cut the deficit by more than half by 2012."

OT, you do realize that the same guy that's telling you this also said that he never heard any inflamatory language from Wright in 20 years (and then said that he did).... that said he wasn't a socialist (despite joining the socialist New Party), that said he didn't know Blago was wanting to deal a Senate seat (after Blago had been quoted that Obama rejected his deal), that said there was no pork in the porkulus bill ( :roll: ) that said he was giving a tax cut to 95% of the people (when 40% didn't have any taxes to cut), that said he would have all bills on the internet for 5 days before being voted on (before allowing less than 1 day for the biggest spending measure in the history of the country), that promised to "Reach accross the aisle (before claiming "We won")...... etc.... and etc..... and etc......

Are you looking at the whole picture here, buddy? Want to buy a bridge?
 
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Sandhusker said:
"Their plan promises to cut the deficit by more than half by 2012."

OT, you do realize that the same guy that's telling you this also said that he never heard any inflamatory language from Wright in 20 years (and then said that he did).... that said he wasn't a socialist (despite joining the socialist New Party), that said he didn't know Blago was wanting to deal a Senate seat (after Blago had been quoted that Obama rejected his deal), that said there was no pork in the porkulus bill ( :roll: ) that said he was giving a tax cut to 95% of the people (when 40% didn't have any taxes to cut), that said he would have all bills on the internet for 5 days before being voted on (before allowing less than 1 day for the biggest spending measure in the history of the country), that promised to "Reach accross the aisle (before claiming "We won")...... etc.... and etc..... and etc......

Are you looking at the whole picture here, buddy? Want to buy a bridge?

The one I bought from GW was in downtown Baghdad... :shock:

GW didn't keep a one of his promises- but I still supported him and my hope his direction would take the right course for several years--- until it was totally apparent there would be no change- and what he was doing to this country.....

So far the majority of Obama's moves have been an improvement to me.....
 

Sandhusker

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What does Bush have to do with Obama's history of lying?

How many times does a man have to lie to you before you reach the conclusion that he's a liar?
 
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Sandhusker said:
What does Bush have to do with Obama's history of lying?

How many times does a man have to lie to you before you reach the conclusion that he's a liar?

Name me one politician that doesn't qualify as a liar with what he says and then does :???: GW is the latest to use as comparison- and Obama has come no where close to his falsehood, deception, and untruths ranking.....
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
What does Bush have to do with Obama's history of lying?

How many times does a man have to lie to you before you reach the conclusion that he's a liar?

Name me one politician that doesn't qualify as a liar with what he says and then does :???: GW is the latest to use as comparison- and Obama has come no where close to his falsehood, deception, and untruths ranking.....

Since your position is that all politicians are liars, why then are you quoting them? What useful information is to be gleaned from a liar?
 

Mike

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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
What does Bush have to do with Obama's history of lying?

How many times does a man have to lie to you before you reach the conclusion that he's a liar?

Name me one politician that doesn't qualify as a liar with what he says and then does :???: GW is the latest to use as comparison- and Obama has come no where close to his falsehood, deception, and untruths ranking.....

Since your position is that all politicians are liars, why then are you quoting them? What useful information is to be gleaned from a liar?
OT is very drawn to liars. He emulates them every chance he gets. :lol:

He's practicing to be a politician when he grows up. :roll:
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
What does Bush have to do with Obama's history of lying?

How many times does a man have to lie to you before you reach the conclusion that he's a liar?

Name me one politician that doesn't qualify as a liar with what he says and then does :???: GW is the latest to use as comparison- and Obama has come no where close to his falsehood, deception, and untruths ranking.....

You ran for office!! That makes you a politician, and a liar, but then we already knew that!! :liar:

EH?
OH VEY oldtimer
 
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SMN Herf said:
How can anyone be happy about a 3.4 Trillion dollar budget passing. Where will the money come from to pay it?

Just like when Hoyer and McCain stood on the floor of Congress and asked the same thing today- and several of the Senators and Congressmen answered them with- "the same place the $11 Trillion you authorized GW to endebt us with will"..

Every time those guys (Hoyer, McCain, Boehner, etc. etc. that were in Congress the past 10 years) get up and talk about how they are being fiscally conservative- or trying to control spending with their NO position (but they have NO alternative plan)- I just start laughing...After years of letting GW blow money like it grew on trees- and bury it in a sandpit- they've actually got the gall to stand up and say they are "fiscal conservatives" and are backing "fiscal responsibility" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
SMN Herf said:
How can anyone be happy about a 3.4 Trillion dollar budget passing. Where will the money come from to pay it?

Just like when Hoyer and McCain stood on the floor of Congress and asked the same thing today- and several of the Senators and Congressmen answered them with- "the same place the $11 Trillion you authorized GW to endebt us with will"..

Every time those guys (Hoyer, McCain, Boehner, etc. etc. that were in Congress the past 10 years) get up and talk about how they are being fiscally conservative- or trying to control spending with their NO position (but they have NO alternative plan)- I just start laughing...After years of letting GW blow money like it grew on trees- and bury it in a sandpit- they've actually got the gall to stand up and say they are "fiscal conservatives" and are backing "fiscal responsibility" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're not backing fiscal responsibility, either. How can you point fingers at them?
 
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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
SMN Herf said:
How can anyone be happy about a 3.4 Trillion dollar budget passing. Where will the money come from to pay it?

Just like when Hoyer and McCain stood on the floor of Congress and asked the same thing today- and several of the Senators and Congressmen answered them with- "the same place the $11 Trillion you authorized GW to endebt us with will"..

Every time those guys (Hoyer, McCain, Boehner, etc. etc. that were in Congress the past 10 years) get up and talk about how they are being fiscally conservative- or trying to control spending with their NO position (but they have NO alternative plan)- I just start laughing...After years of letting GW blow money like it grew on trees- and bury it in a sandpit- they've actually got the gall to stand up and say they are "fiscal conservatives" and are backing "fiscal responsibility" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You're not backing fiscal responsibility, either. How can you point fingers at them?

I knew this election was not about fiscal conservation- neither side offered that...It was just which direction you wanted it spent...Handing it out to some Mullah on a Baghdad streetcorner or using it to rebuild America...

The Bush/Repub economic plan to build the country thru nationbuilding and stuffing the pockets of the oil companies, Halliburtons, and Wall Street didn't work- total failure which has almost taken down our economy....Time to give the other direction a try....
 

Sandhusker

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Do you have any idea how much Geithner is sending to Wall St.? Geeeeze, OT, if you wanted to stop the flow of money and favors to Wall St., you voted for the wrong guy!
 
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Sandhusker said:
Do you have any idea how much Geithner is sending to Wall St.? Geeeeze, OT, if you wanted to stop the flow of money and favors to Wall St., you voted for the wrong guy!

And the alternative- "Foreclosure Phil" Gramm :???: :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Do you have any idea how much Geithner is sending to Wall St.? Geeeeze, OT, if you wanted to stop the flow of money and favors to Wall St., you voted for the wrong guy!

And the alternative- "Foreclosure Phil" Gramm :???: :roll:

I didn't realize Gramm was running for President.
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
GW didn't keep a one of his promises- but I still supported him and my hope his direction would take the right course for several years--- until it was totally apparent there would be no change- and what he was doing to this country.....

People are suppose to get smarter with age, why you comfortable making the same mistake with Obama that you did with Bush? Looks like you would learn from your mistake and speak out as soon as the red flags go up. :roll:

Why is it that you feel compelled to accept Obama screwing up just because you were stupid enough to accept Bush doing it? :?
 

SMN Herf

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Oldtimer said:
SMN Herf said:
How can anyone be happy about a 3.4 Trillion dollar budget passing. Where will the money come from to pay it?

Just like when Hoyer and McCain stood on the floor of Congress and asked the same thing today- and several of the Senators and Congressmen answered them with- "the same place the $11 Trillion you authorized GW to endebt us with will"..

Every time those guys (Hoyer, McCain, Boehner, etc. etc. that were in Congress the past 10 years) get up and talk about how they are being fiscally conservative- or trying to control spending with their NO position (but they have NO alternative plan)- I just start laughing...After years of letting GW blow money like it grew on trees- and bury it in a sandpit- they've actually got the gall to stand up and say they are "fiscal conservatives" and are backing "fiscal responsibility" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

That is the best they can do to justify this spending spree and you are willing to let them get a way with it. Did your mother ever ask you when you were growing up that if all your friends jumped off a cliff you would too?

Better yet, the Bush administration should start justifying Guantonimo prison by saying that FDR put Japanese Americans in internment camps so they can do it to a few terrorists too after 911.

John Mccain is no conservative, never has never will be. Like the rest of the repuclican leadership. But to justify more wrongs by previous wrongs sure isnt going to make it right.

How will all this spending be paid for then OT?
 

MsSage

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So far the majority of Obama's moves have been an improvement to me.....
Please tell Me/Us what some of those improvments have been.

I know my raise has been put on hold along with everyone else at the farm. We have to tighten our belts with supplies. gas is still over $2.10 but then you go to Dumas and its under $1.90 :roll:
Prices are going up on food and other items. I cant find any ammo. I have free rein to shoot all the rabbits and coyotes at the farm hmmm I just cant get anything to shoot them with. Shoer has been alot slower in miles. My Dad is doing whatever it takes to save what little he has left in his retirement. Thank God he lives in SC and retirement is NOT taxed and over 70 pay no income tax ...well they get it back at the end of the year :roll: He tells me how bad things are there. Boats being abandoned in all forms of waterways, Semi's for sale on the side of the road. Houses empty and forclosure notices on the windows. Flea market empty. He is going to see how many people are going to the watermelon festival That will be the tell tale sign.

If things are good for you I am happy for you. Have you really looked around at your neighbors? Do they still get the same number at the wateringhole? How about the local resturant? Have any business gone under?
 
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