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For your year-end reading enjoyment, here's a list of the Bush Administration officials who have been Indicted, Convicted or Pled Guilty to various charges. Very impressive.

* Eric G. Andell - deputy undersecretary in charge of newly created Office of Safe and Drug-Free Schools (previously senior adviser to Secretary of Education Rod Paige) - pleaded guilty to one count of conflict of interest for using government travel for personal causes and was sentenced to one year of probation, 100 hours of community service, and fined $5,000.

* Claude Allen - Assistant to the President for Domestic Policy- resigned, pled guilty to shoplifting from Target stores.

* Lester Crawford - Commissioner, FDA - resigned in late September 2005 after only two months on the job. On October 17th, he pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor counts, making a false writing and conflict of interest. On February 27, 2007, Crawford was sentenced to to three years of probation and was fined $90,000.

* Brian Doyle - Deputy Press Secretary, Department of Homeland Security - Resigned in wake of child sex scandal. Doyle was arrested on April 4th, 2006 and pleaded no contest on September 19, 2006 to seven counts of use of a computer to seduce a child and sixteen counts of transmitting harmful material to a minor. On November 17th, 2006 Brian Doyle was sentenced to five years in state prison and ten years of probation. He will also need to register as a sex offender.

* Steven Griles - Deputy Secretary at the Interior Department - is the highest-ranked administration official yet convicted in the Jack Abramoff scandal. In March 2007, Griles pleaded guilty to lying about his role in the Jack Abramoff scandal. Sentenced to 10 months incarceration.

* John T. Korsmo – Chairman of the Federal Housing Finance Board from 2002 to 2004 – pleaded guilty in 2005 to lying to the Senate and an inspector general. He swore he had no idea how a list of presidents for FHFB-regulated banks were invited to a fundraiser for his friend's congressional campaign. On the invites, Korsmo was listed as the "Special Guest." Got 18 months of probation and a $5,000 fine.

* Scooter Libby - Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff - resigned after being indicted for lying to a grand jury and investigators in connection with the investigation stemming from the leak of Valerie Wilson’s covert CIA operative's identity. Convicted on four of five counts, making him the highest-ranking White House official to be convicted of a felony since the Iran-contra scandal. Sentenced to thirty months imprisonment and a fine of $250,000. On July 2nd, after a judge decided that Libby would remain in prison during the appeals process, President Bush commuted Libby's sentence by removing the thirty months in prison.

* David Safavian - former head of the Office of Federal Procurement Policy at the Office of Management and Budget - convicted of lying to ethics officials and Senate investigators about his ties to lobbyist Jack Abramoff. On October 27, 2006, he was sentenced to 18 months in prison. He is currently appealing the ruling.

* Robert Stein - former comptroller and funding officer for the now disbanded Coalition Provisional Authority, Southern Central Region in Al-Hillah, Iraq - pleaded guilty to conspiracy, bribery, conspiracy to commit money laundering, possession of a machine gun, and being a felon in possession of a fire arm. On January 30, 2007 Stein was sentenced to nine years in prison and ordered to forfeit $3.6 million.

* Roger Stillwell - desk officer, Interior Department - pleaded guilty to failing to report Redskins tickets and free dinners from Jack Abramoff.

Resigned Due to Investigation, Pending Investigation or Allegations of Impropriety

* Philip Cooney - chief of staff, White House Council on Environmental Quality - a former oil industry lawyer with no scientific expertise, Cooney resigned after it was revealed he had watered down reports on global warming.

* George Deutsch - press aide, NASA - resigned amid allegations he prevented the agency's top climate scientist from speaking publicly about global warming.

* Michael Elston - chief of staff to Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty - announced his resignation on June 15, 2007. Despite allegations that he’d threatened at least four of the eight fired US Attorneys, McNulty said Elston had served the Justice Department "with distinction for nearly eight years."

* Kyle Dustin “Dusty” Foggo - appointed executive director of the CIA, the agency’s third-highest post, in October 2004 - resigned and was ultimately indicted on bribery charges related to the Duke Cunningham scandal.

* Alberto Gonzales - former Attorney General - resigned without explanation amidst investigations of the firings of U.S. Attorneys, the politicization of the Justice Department, warrantless surveillance, and the torture and mistreatment of detainees.

* Monica Goodling - former Justice Department liaison to the White House and senior counsel to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales - resigned on April 7, 2007 amidst the investigation of the firings of U.S. Attorneys.

* Michelle Larson Korsmo - deputy chief of staff, Department of Labor - Helped her husband (see John Korsmo, above) with his donor scam. Quietly left her Labor plum job in February 2004, about two weeks before news broke that she and her husband were the targets of a criminal probe.

* Howard "Cookie" Krongard - former State Department inspector general -- accused of not properly investigating State Department contractor fraud in Iraq and Afghanistan; of retaliating against whistleblowers in his own office; and of not telling the truth about his knowledge of his brother's ties with Blackwater, a State Department contractor. Faced with a possible perjury investigation, Howard Krongard resigned on December 7, 2007.

* Julie Macdonald - former deputy assistant secretary for fish, wildlife and parks at the Interior Department - resigned in May 2007 after an "inspector general's report found she had improperly leaked information to private organizations, bullied staff scientists and broken federal rules." The Department of the Interior is investigating many of her decisions regarding endangered species; so far seven have been overturned.

* Paul McNulty - Deputy Attorney General for the Department of Justice – resigned, after questions about his involvement in the U.S. attorney firings and his testimony to Congress about the firings.

* Richard Perle - Chairman, Defense Policy Board - resigned from Pentagon advisory panel amid conflict-of-interest charges.

* Susan Ralston - assistant, White House - resigned amidst revelations that she had accepted thousands of dollars in gifts from Abramoff without compensating him, counter to White House ethics rules.

* Janet Rehnquist - inspector general, Department of Health and Human Services - resigned on June 1, 2003 in the face of an investigation into her alleged efforts to block a politically dangerous probe on behalf of the Bush family.

* James Roche - secretary, U.S. Air Force - resigned in the wake of the Boeing tanker lease scandal, after it was revealed he had rather crudely pushed for Boeing to win a $23 billion contract.

* Kyle Sampson -former chief of staff for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales - resigned amidst the investigation of the firings of U.S. Attorneys.

* Joseph Schmitz - Inspector General, Defense - Resigned amid charges he personally intervened to protect top political appointees.

* Bradley Schlozman - resigned from his third and final post with the Justice Department after accusations of actively politicizing the department. He's currently under investigation by the Department's inspector general.

* Thomas Scully - Administrator, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services - shortly after Scully resigned in 2003, an investigation by the Department of Health and Human Services inspector general found that Scully had pressured the agency's actuary to underestimate the full cost of the Medicare reform bill by approximately $100 billion until after Congress passed the bill into law. Scully was also hit with conflict of interest charges by the U.S. attorney's office for billing CMS for expenses incurred during a job search while he still headed the agency. He settled those charges by paying $9,782.

* David Smith - deputy assistant secretary for fish, wildlife, and parks, Interior Department - resigned on July 21, 2006 after shooting a buffalo and accepting its skeletal remains and meat as an illegal gratuity. He eventually paid over $3,000 for the dead buffalo, but only after the internal inquiry had commenced. The Department of Interior inspector general also noted in a May 16, 2006 report that Smith's involvement in the designation of Houston as a port of entry for imported wildlife in order to benefit a friend was inappropriate.

* John Tanner - Voting Rights Section Chief, Justice Department - resigned in December of 2007 and moved to the Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices. Already under suspicion for aiding efforts to politicize the voting section, the bumbling proponent of voter identification laws angered lawmakers with his comments that such laws actually discriminate against white voters because "minorities die first". Even more impressive was his apology for the comment. The DoJ's Office of Professional Responsibility is currently investigating his travel habits and those of his deputy.

* Sara Taylor - Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Political Affairs at the White House, where she was Karl Rove´s top aide - resigned amidst the U.S. attorneys investigation and other probes of Rove´s alleged politicization of the government.

* Ken Tomlinson - Board Chairman, Corporation for Public Broadcasting; member, Broadcasting Board of Governors - resigned at the release of an inspector general report concluding he had broken laws in spending CPB money to hire politically connected consultants to search for "bias" without consulting the board. At BBG, a separate investigation found he was running a "horse racing operation" out of his office, and continuing to hire politically-wired individuals to do "consulting" work for him. After being nominated and serving another term, he finally stepped down from that spot earlier this year.

* Carl Truscott - Director, Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Bureau - resigned. A report by the Justice Department's inspector general found that Truscott wasted tens of thousands of dollars on luxuries, wasted millions on whimsical management decisions and violated ethics rules by ordering employees to help his nephew with a high school video project.

* Paul Wolfowitz - World Bank President - resigned in May 2007 after a committee report found that he broke ethics rules by giving his girlfriend a substantial raise.

And here we have the group that Bush tried to get in office, but failed. Nomination Failed Due to Scandal

* Linda Chavez - nominated, Secretary of Labor - withdrew her nomination in January 2001 amidst revelations that an illegal immigrant lived in her home and worked for her in the early 1990s. Chavez blamed what she said were the "search-and-destroy" politics of Washington.

* Timothy Flanigan - nominated, Deputy Attorney General (also Alberto Gonzales’ top deputy at the White House) - withdrew his nomination in October 2005 amidst revelations that he'd worked closely with lobbyist Jack Abramoff when he was General Counsel for Corporate and International Law at Tyco, which was a client of Abramoff's.

* Bernard Kerik - nominated, Secretary, Department of Homeland Security - withdrew his nomination amidst a host of corruption allegations. Eventually pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor relating to improper gifts totaling tens of thousands of dollars while he was a New York City official in the late 1990's. Subsequently, on November 8, 2007, Kerik was indicted on sixteen counts for bribery, tax fraud, and false statements with a maximum sentence of 142 years and more than $5 million in fines. Kerik has pleaded not guilty. For a rundown of Kerik's myriad indiscretions, check out TPM's Ultimate Kerik Scandal List!.

* William Mercer - the former associate deputy attorney general and US Attorney for Montana - withdrew his nomination to be the permanent number three official at the Department of Justice on June 22, 2007 due to his role in the U.S. attorney firings.

* Hans von Spakovsky - Commissioner, FEC - nomination to another term after his recess appointment failed due to allegations that he'd worked at the Justice Department to suppress minority voter turnout.

Under Investigation But Still in Office

* Stuart Bowen - Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR) - was once admired for his successes while investigating allegations of waste and fraud in Iraq, but now employee allegations have prompted four government investigations into the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction (SIGIR).

* Lurita Doan - Administrator of the U.S. General Services Administration - still in office, despite investigations by both the Office of Special Counsel and the House oversight committee that found that Doan had "crossed the line" by suggesting that the GSA use its resources to help Republicans get elected.

* Alfonso Jackson - Secretary of Housing and Urban Development - following reports that Jackson told a business group in April 2006 that he once canceled a contract after the contractor criticized President Bush, an investigation by the HUD inspector general found that while Jackson told his deputies to favor Bush supporters, there was "no direct proof that a contract was actually awarded or rescinded because of political affiliation." A second, criminal investigation was triggered in part by Jackson's claim before Congress in May 2007 that "I don't touch contracts." That probe, now before a federal grand jury, has turned up evidence that Jackson may indeed have touched contracts - and steered them towards friends."
 

jigs

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pretty rough list....I would still rather employ those people before leaving Bill Clinton alone with my wife.


that list is shorter than the one of all the people closely tied to Bill & Hitlery that have died mysteriously......
 
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Heres another interesting list of political notables:

Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians” for 2007

Washington, DC –Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2007 list of Washington’s “Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians.” The list, in alphabetical order, includes:

1. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY): In addition to her long and sordid ethics record, Senator Hillary Clinton took a lot of heat in 2007 – and rightly so – for blocking the release her official White House records. Many suspect these records contain a treasure trove of information related to her role in a number of serious Clinton-era scandals. Moreover, in March 2007, Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint against Senator Clinton for filing false financial disclosure forms with the U.S. Senate (again). And Hillary’s top campaign contributor, Norman Hsu, was exposed as a felon and a fugitive from justice in 2007. Hsu pleaded guilt to one count of grand theft for defrauding investors as part of a multi-million dollar Ponzi scheme.


2. Rep. John Conyers (D-MI): Conyers reportedly repeatedly violated the law and House ethics rules, forcing his staff to serve as his personal servants, babysitters, valets and campaign workers while on the government payroll. While the House Ethics Committee investigated these allegations in 2006, and substantiated a number of the accusations against Conyers, the committee blamed the staff and required additional administrative record-keeping and employee training. Judicial Watch obtained documentation in 2007 from a former Conyers staffer that sheds new light on the activities and conduct on the part of the Michigan congressman, which appear to be at a minimum inappropriate and likely unlawful. Judicial Watch called on the Attorney General in 2007 to investigate the matter.


3. Senator Larry Craig (R-ID): In one of the most shocking scandals of 2007, Senator Craig was caught by police attempting to solicit sex in a Minneapolis International Airport men’s bathroom during the summer. Senator Craig reportedly “sent signals” to a police officer in an adjacent stall that he wanted to engage in sexual activity. When the police officer showed Craig his police identification under the bathroom stall divider and pointed toward the exit, the senator reportedly exclaimed 'No!'” When asked to produce identification, Craig presented police his U.S. Senate business card and said, “What do you think of that?” The power play didn’t work. Craig was arrested, charged and entered a guilty plea. Despite enormous pressure from his Republican colleagues to resign from the Senate, Craig refused.


4. Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA): As a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee's subcommittee on military construction, Feinstein reviewed military construction government contracts, some of which were ultimately awarded to URS Corporation and Perini, companies then owned by Feinstein's husband, Richard Blum. While the Pentagon ultimately awards military contracts, there is a reason for the review process. The Senate's subcommittee on Military Construction's approval carries weight. Sen. Feinstein, therefore, likely had influence over the decision making process. Senator Feinstein also attempted to undermine ethics reform in 2007, arguing in favor of a perk that allows members of Congress to book multiple airline flights and then cancel them without financial penalty. Judicial Watch’s investigation into this matter is ongoing.


5. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): Giuliani came under fire in late 2007 after it was discovered the former New York mayor’s office “billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons…” ABC News also reported that Giuliani provided Nathan with a police vehicle and a city driver at taxpayer expense. All of this news came on the heels of the federal indictment on corruption charges of Giuliani’s former Police Chief and business partner Bernard Kerik, who pleaded guilty in 2006 to accepting a $165,000 bribe in the form of renovations to his Bronx apartment from a construction company attempting to land city contracts.


6. Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR): Governor Huckabee enjoyed a meteoric rise in the polls in December 2007, which prompted a more thorough review of his ethics record. According to The Associated Press: “[Huckabee’s] career has also been colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of state computer files on his way out of the governor’s office.” And what was Governor Huckabee’s response to these ethics allegations? Rather than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state ethics commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down.


7. I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby: Libby, former Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000 for lying and obstructing the Valerie Plame CIA leak investigation. Libby was found guilty of four felonies -- two counts of perjury, one count of making false statements to the FBI and one count of obstructing justice – all serious crimes. Unfortunately, Libby was largely let off the hook. In an appalling lack of judgment, President Bush issued “Executive Clemency” to Libby and commuted the sentence.


8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A “Dishonorable Mention” last year, Senator Obama moves onto the “ten most wanted” list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin “Tony” Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company’s shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.


9. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who promised a new era of ethics enforcement in the House of Representatives, snuck a $25 million gift to her husband, Paul Pelosi, in a $15 billion Water Resources Development Act recently passed by Congress. The pet project involved renovating ports in Speaker Pelosi's home base of San Francisco. Pelosi just happens to own apartment buildings near the areas targeted for improvement, and will almost certainly experience a significant boost in property value as a result of Pelosi's earmark. Earlier in the year, Pelosi found herself in hot water for demanding access to a luxury Air Force jet to ferry the Speaker and her entourage back and forth from San Francisco non-stop, in unprecedented request which was wisely rejected by the Pentagon. And under Pelosi’s leadership, the House ethics process remains essentially shut down – which protects members in both parties from accountability.


10. Senator Harry Reid (D-NV): Over the last few years, Reid has been embroiled in a series of scandals that cast serious doubt on his credibility as a self-professed champion of government ethics, and 2007 was no different. According to The Los Angeles Times, over the last four years, Reid has used his influence in Washington to help a developer, Havey Whittemore, clear obstacles for a profitable real estate deal. As the project advanced, the Times reported, “Reid received tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Whittemore.” Whittemore also hired one of Reid’s sons (Leif) as his personal lawyer and then promptly handed the junior Reid the responsibility of negotiating the real estate deal with federal officials. Leif Reid even called his father’s office to talk about how to obtain the proper EPA permits, a clear conflict of interest.


Judicial Watch is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization. Judicial Watch neither supports nor opposes candidates for public office. For more information, visit www.judicialwatch.org.
 
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OT, not a one of these people is under investigation. In fact, Hillary has been investigated for almost 20 years and no one has found anything to charge her with! "Judicial Watch" can say what they want to say, but none of their last is actually under investigation or has resigned under pressure. In fact, I wouldn't even call Libby a "politician". He was never elected to a public office, he just cleaned up the VPs droppings.
 
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ff said:
OT, not a one of these people is under investigation. In fact, Hillary has been investigated for almost 20 years and no one has found anything to charge her with! "Judicial Watch" can say what they want to say, but none of their last is actually under investigation or has resigned under pressure. In fact, I wouldn't even call Libby a "politician". He was never elected to a public office, he just cleaned up the VPs droppings.

Hillary is under investigation big time by Judicial Watch--but her hubby continues to have enough influence to keep any of the paperwork from being released under the FOIA...They did get a court order to get the info released-but now are being told it may take years before it can be gone thru and Security clearances given.....At least long enough for her to become President- at which time it can disappear or she can slap another Security hold on it.... :roll:

What you have here is a complete pack of crooks- and when you have the head crooks controlling the Investigative mechanisms- you get little or no investigation.....Honor amongst thieves....
 

Tex

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Oldtimer said:
ff said:
OT, not a one of these people is under investigation. In fact, Hillary has been investigated for almost 20 years and no one has found anything to charge her with! "Judicial Watch" can say what they want to say, but none of their last is actually under investigation or has resigned under pressure. In fact, I wouldn't even call Libby a "politician". He was never elected to a public office, he just cleaned up the VPs droppings.

Hillary is under investigation big time by Judicial Watch--but her hubby continues to have enough influence to keep any of the paperwork from being released under the FOIA...They did get a court order to get the info released-but now are being told it may take years before it can be gone thru and Security clearances given.....At least long enough for her to become President- at which time it can disappear or she can slap another Security hold on it.... :roll:

What you have here is a complete pack of crooks- and when you have the head crooks controlling the Investigative mechanisms- you get little or no investigation.....Honor amongst thieves....


...which is exactly why we should break this bush -- clinton thing.
 

Steve

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Just in case you forgot to add this one....

Federal Indictment

On June 4, 2007 Jefferson was indicted on 16 counts in a 94-page indictment that included charges of racketeering, soliciting bribes, wire fraud, money laundering, obstruction of ustice, conspiracy and violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. If convicted, he faces a possible maximum sentence of 235 years.[37][38]

House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) issued the following statement regarding Jefferson's indictment:

"The charges in the indictment against Congressman Jefferson are extremely serious. While Mr. Jefferson, just as any other citizen, must be considered innocent until proven guilty, if these charges are proven true, they constitute an egregious and unacceptable abuse of public trust and power.

"As we have demonstrated in implementing tough ethics reforms and passing tough lobbying reforms already this year, Democrats are committed to upholding a high ethical standard and eliminating corruption and unethical behavior from the Congress."[40]

On June 8, 2007, Jefferson pled not guilty to the indictment. After the hearing, Jefferson said, "I am absolutely innocent of the charges that have been leveled against me. I'm going to fight my heart out to clear my name." He further explained, "The $90,000 was the FBI's money. The FBI gave it to me as part of its plan — part of their plan — that I would give it to the Nigerian vice president, but I did not do that. When all the facts are understood, I trust that I will be vindicated."[42]

FBI investigation of bribery and fraud

On 30 July 2005, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI receiving $100,000 worth of $100 bills in a leather briefcase at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Arlington, Virginia.[10] Jefferson told an investor, Lori Mody, who was wearing a wire, that he would need to give Nigerian Vice President Atiku Abubakar $500,000 "as a motivating factor" to make sure they obtained contracts for iGate and Mody's company in Nigeria.[11]

A few days later, on 3 August 2005, FBI agents raided Jefferson's home in Northeast Washington and, as noted in an 83-page affidavit filed to support a subsequent raid on his Congressional office, "found $90,000 of the cash in the freezer, in $10,000 increments wrapped in aluminum foil and stuffed inside frozen-food containers." Serial numbers found on the currency in the freezer matched serial numbers of funds given by the FBI to their informant.
 
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Oldtimer said:
ff said:
OT, not a one of these people is under investigation. In fact, Hillary has been investigated for almost 20 years and no one has found anything to charge her with! "Judicial Watch" can say what they want to say, but none of their last is actually under investigation or has resigned under pressure. In fact, I wouldn't even call Libby a "politician". He was never elected to a public office, he just cleaned up the VPs droppings.

Hillary is under investigation big time by Judicial Watch--but her hubby continues to have enough influence to keep any of the paperwork from being released under the FOIA...They did get a court order to get the info released-but now are being told it may take years before it can be gone thru and Security clearances given.....At least long enough for her to become President- at which time it can disappear or she can slap another Security hold on it.... :roll:

What you have here is a complete pack of crooks- and when you have the head crooks controlling the Investigative mechanisms- you get little or no investigation.....Honor amongst thieves....

You need to fire your sources of information. According to this article, some of Hillary's papers will be released very soon, maybe already have been. But don't let a little thing like the facts get in your way. :roll:

The Clinton library is readying a trove of detail about Hillary Rodham Clinton's eight years as first lady in the White House for release in late January, government lawyers said in a court filing.

But Bill Clinton's lawyer will have the final say on whether 10,000 pages of Hillary Clinton's private White House "daily schedules" will be immediately released to the groups who requested her calendar under the Freedom of Information Act.

Even so, the documents appear likely to become public within a month of their release by the archives, as the general election heats up in February.

The New York Democratic senator faces growing questions about her husband's resistance to releasing some documents from the Clinton administration, which ended nearly seven years ago.

Clinton rival Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) criticized her at the Oct. 30 debate for not releasing more White House documents.

"We have just gone through one of the most secretive administrations in our history. And not releasing, I think, these records — at the same time, Hillary, that you're making the claim that this is the basis for your experience — I think, is a problem," he said.

The Republican National Committee headlined a recent press release, "Library Lockdown Continues.”

Both Clintons and their aides say they're releasing documents as quickly as the archives make them available, and that the real hold up is the volume of paper.

Most documents became publicly available, by law, after five years, and the schedules do not appear to fall within any of several categories of papers that Clinton has reserved the right to withhold until 2012.


The Hillary Clinton papers could offer a detailed glimpse of the behind-the-scenes role played by a First Lady whose campaign has cast those years as a mixture of gravitas-inducing international diplomacy and work on legislation focused on women and children, while minimizing her place as a major player in White House debates over political strategy and policy.

They would include records of eight years of private meetings.

The details of the library's release plans are disclosed in a response by the National Archives and Records Administration to a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch, a conservative legal group, which opens a window into the molasses-slow process by which documents from the Clinton presidency are making their way to light. (Filings from both sides in the case are available on Judicial Watch's website.

Lawyers for the National Archives said they could not predict exactly when the documents would be made public because both President Clinton and President Bush have the right to review them before they are released.

They laid out the position in an October 2 filing with a federal court in Washington, which is posted to Judicial Watch's website with other documents from the case.

"On average, presidential representatives have required 237 days to complete their review of Clinton presidential records," the filing said.

Bruce Lindsey, the CEO of the William J. Clinton Foundation, is personally reviewing every page the National Archives has readied for release and currently has 26,000 pages on his desk, a Clinton aide said.

The subject of those documents isn't public. Hillary Clinton's schedules will join that pile.

However, if Lindsey doesn't challenge the release of the schedules — something he hasn't done with any documents so far — he would be bound to sign off on them within 30 days of their release by the Library, a Clinton aide said.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1107/6689.html

BTW, Judical Watch doesn't have any authority to "investigate" anyone. They're simply another Right Wing "watchdog" group that screams and yells when something goes on they don't approve of. Like naming Hillary as the most corrupt politician when she's been investigated for years and not even the Republican Congress found anything to charge her with. But, you know what, she's still standing up and taking on the big boys. You go, girl. :D
 
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Steve said:
Just in case you forgot to add this one....

Federal Indictment

On June 4, 2007 Jefferson was indicted on 16 counts in a 94-page indictment that included charges of racketeering, soliciting bribes, wire fraud, money laundering, obstruction of ustice, conspiracy and violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. If convicted, he faces a possible maximum sentence of 235 years.[37][38]

House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) issued the following statement regarding Jefferson's indictment:

"The charges in the indictment against Congressman Jefferson are extremely serious. While Mr. Jefferson, just as any other citizen, must be considered innocent until proven guilty, if these charges are proven true, they constitute an egregious and unacceptable abuse of public trust and power.

"As we have demonstrated in implementing tough ethics reforms and passing tough lobbying reforms already this year, Democrats are committed to upholding a high ethical standard and eliminating corruption and unethical behavior from the Congress."[40]

On June 8, 2007, Jefferson pled not guilty to the indictment. After the hearing, Jefferson said, "I am absolutely innocent of the charges that have been leveled against me. I'm going to fight my heart out to clear my name." He further explained, "The $90,000 was the FBI's money. The FBI gave it to me as part of its plan — part of their plan — that I would give it to the Nigerian vice president, but I did not do that. When all the facts are understood, I trust that I will be vindicated."[42]

FBI investigation of bribery and fraud

On 30 July 2005, Jefferson was videotaped by the FBI receiving $100,000 worth of $100 bills in a leather briefcase at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Arlington, Virginia.[10] Jefferson told an investor, Lori Mody, who was wearing a wire, that he would need to give Nigerian Vice President Atiku Abubakar $500,000 "as a motivating factor" to make sure they obtained contracts for iGate and Mody's company in Nigeria.[11]

A few days later, on 3 August 2005, FBI agents raided Jefferson's home in Northeast Washington and, as noted in an 83-page affidavit filed to support a subsequent raid on his Congressional office, "found $90,000 of the cash in the freezer, in $10,000 increments wrapped in aluminum foil and stuffed inside frozen-food containers." Serial numbers found on the currency in the freezer matched serial numbers of funds given by the FBI to their informant.

Yep, one Democratic Congressman has been charged (just before the election, BTW) and indicted versus how many Republicans? And he was charged over six months ago. If they have the "goods" on him, why haven't they gone to trial?
 
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You think its ok for a presidential candidate to refuse to open their government work produced files to documents that are public under the FOIA- and require judicial watch or anyone to have to get a court order to see them :???:
Stinks to high heaven to me....

And I'll bet they aren't released and the public won't be able to view them prior to the election......
 
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Oldtimer said:
You think its ok for a presidential candidate to refuse to open their government work produced files to documents that are public under the FOIA- and require judicial watch or anyone to have to get a court order to see them :???:
Stinks to high heaven to me....

And I'll bet they aren't released and the public won't be able to view them prior to the election......

Neither of the Clintons have refused to open their government records. So you're being dishonest by making that statement. If you read the article, you will see that they are being prepared for release. George Bush can hold them up, just as Bill Clinton can hold them up.

I think you'll lose that bet. If you do, will you promise to vote for Hillary?
 
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ff said:
Oldtimer said:
You think its ok for a presidential candidate to refuse to open their government work produced files to documents that are public under the FOIA- and require judicial watch or anyone to have to get a court order to see them :???:
Stinks to high heaven to me....

And I'll bet they aren't released and the public won't be able to view them prior to the election......

Neither of the Clintons have refused to open their government records. So you're being dishonest by making that statement. If you read the article, you will see that they are being prepared for release. George Bush can hold them up, just as Bill Clinton can hold them up.

I think you'll lose that bet. If you do, will you promise to vote for Hillary?

Boy you are gullible if you believe they are moving full speed ahead to get out information :roll: And I haven't figured what could ever make me vote for that woman--unless of course the only other option would be GW :roll: He makes her appear ready to be annointed for Sainthood... :wink:
 

Soapweed

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Oldtimer said:
ff said:
Oldtimer said:
You think its ok for a presidential candidate to refuse to open their government work produced files to documents that are public under the FOIA- and require judicial watch or anyone to have to get a court order to see them :???:
Stinks to high heaven to me....

And I'll bet they aren't released and the public won't be able to view them prior to the election......

Neither of the Clintons have refused to open their government records. So you're being dishonest by making that statement. If you read the article, you will see that they are being prepared for release. George Bush can hold them up, just as Bill Clinton can hold them up.

I think you'll lose that bet. If you do, will you promise to vote for Hillary?

Boy you are gullible if you believe they are moving full speed ahead to get out information :roll: And I haven't figured what could ever make me vote for that woman--unless of course the only other option would be GW :roll: He makes her appear ready to be annointed for Sainthood... :wink:

If Hitlery got in, you'd be begging to have GW back. She isn't a candidate for Sainthood by any stretch of the imagination. She's just a plain hood. :x
 

Steve

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ff
Yep, one Democratic Congressman has been charged (just before the election, BTW) and indicted versus how many Republicans? And he was charged over six months ago. If they have the "goods" on him, why haven't they gone to trial?

I'm not sure why the hold up...he should have been charged several years ago..and at least a year before the election...(not just before)... maybe it had something to do with the democratic leadership's outrage over them searching his office?

but any way.. it looks as if the have the goods on him... eight file cabinets full... :roll: and he goes to trial on the 8th..

A 94-page indictment, handed up Monday, details 11 separate bribery schemes and 16 criminal counts, including racketeering, soliciting bribes, wire fraud, money laundering and obstruction of justice. Jefferson faces a possible maximum sentence of 235 years.

The charges came almost two years after investigators raided Jefferson's home in Washington and found $90,000 in cash stuffed in a box in his freezer.

During Friday's hearing, prosecutor Mark Lytle said the government had eight file cabinets of evidence in the case and extensive tape recordings. He said the government could spend up to a month presenting its case.

U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III has prohibited Jefferson's access to guns kept in his Louisiana home. He has also frozen his bank accounts and other assets.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/08/politics/main2902116.shtml

What I find ironic is that most republicans will not defend the actions of those who are corrupt,... yet you came right to Jeffersons aid... why?
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Oldtimer said:
ff said:
Oldtimer said:
You think its ok for a presidential candidate to refuse to open their government work produced files to documents that are public under the FOIA- and require judicial watch or anyone to have to get a court order to see them :???:
Stinks to high heaven to me....

And I'll bet they aren't released and the public won't be able to view them prior to the election......

Neither of the Clintons have refused to open their government records. So you're being dishonest by making that statement. If you read the article, you will see that they are being prepared for release. George Bush can hold them up, just as Bill Clinton can hold them up.

I think you'll lose that bet. If you do, will you promise to vote for Hillary?

Boy you are gullible if you believe they are moving full speed ahead to get out information :roll: And I haven't figured what could ever make me vote for that woman--unless of course the only other option would be GW :roll: He makes her appear ready to be annointed for Sainthood... :wink:

OT, look at what the Democratic Congress has done:

Bush Signs Government Transparency Bill
By BEN FELLER – 1 day ago

CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) — President Bush on Monday signed a bill aimed at giving the public and the media greater access to information about what the government is doing. The new law toughens the Freedom of Information Act, the first such makeover to the signature public-access law in a decade. It amounts to a congressional pushback against the Bush administration's movement to greater secrecy since the terrorist attacks of 2001.

Bush signed the bill without comment in one of his final decisions of the year.

The legislation creates a system for the media and public to track the status of their FOIA requests. It establishes a hot line service for all federal agencies to deal with problems and an ombudsman to provide an alternative to litigation in disclosure disputes.

The law also restores a presumption of a standard that orders government agencies to release information on request unless there is a finding that disclosure could do harm.

Agencies would be required to meet a 20-day deadline for responding to FOIA requests. Nonproprietary information held by government contractors also would be subject to the law.

The legislation is aimed at reversing an order by former Attorney General John Ashcroft after the 9/11 attacks in which he instructed agencies to lean against releasing information when there was uncertainty about how doing so would affect national security.

Dozens of media outlets, including The Associated Press, supported the legislation.

Last year, the government received 21.4 million requests for information under the 40-year-old law, according to statistics provided by the Justice Department. The government processed nearly the same number of requests, which was almost 1.5 million more than processed during the previous fiscal year, according to the department.

If you take time to go to this site, there are more links to this new legislation.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g2h-wOpWezQJGWaZ7AwxYmTJKxgAD8TSPOPG0
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Oldtimer said:
ff said:
Oldtimer said:
You think its ok for a presidential candidate to refuse to open their government work produced files to documents that are public under the FOIA- and require judicial watch or anyone to have to get a court order to see them :???:
Stinks to high heaven to me....

And I'll bet they aren't released and the public won't be able to view them prior to the election......

Neither of the Clintons have refused to open their government records. So you're being dishonest by making that statement. If you read the article, you will see that they are being prepared for release. George Bush can hold them up, just as Bill Clinton can hold them up.

I think you'll lose that bet. If you do, will you promise to vote for Hillary?

Boy you are gullible if you believe they are moving full speed ahead to get out information :roll: And I haven't figured what could ever make me vote for that woman--unless of course the only other option would be GW :roll: He makes her appear ready to be annointed for Sainthood... :wink:

So if Hillary personally delivered every sheet of paper she had even doodled on to your doorstep, it wouldn't make a bit of difference in your vote? So why are you complaining about her refusing to release her papers.....which she hasn't done?
 
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Anonymous

Guest
ff said:
Oldtimer said:
ff said:
Neither of the Clintons have refused to open their government records. So you're being dishonest by making that statement. If you read the article, you will see that they are being prepared for release. George Bush can hold them up, just as Bill Clinton can hold them up.

I think you'll lose that bet. If you do, will you promise to vote for Hillary?

Boy you are gullible if you believe they are moving full speed ahead to get out information :roll: And I haven't figured what could ever make me vote for that woman--unless of course the only other option would be GW :roll: He makes her appear ready to be annointed for Sainthood... :wink:

So if Hillary personally delivered every sheet of paper she had even doodled on to your doorstep, it wouldn't make a bit of difference in your vote? So why are you complaining about her refusing to release her papers.....which she hasn't done?

It ain't gonna happen- so why even ponder it...
 

Steve

Well-known member
ff
So if Hillary personally delivered every sheet of paper she had even doodled on to your doorstep, it wouldn't make a bit of difference in your vote? So why are you complaining about her refusing to release her papers.....which she hasn't done?

maybe it's about...Government Transparency

if Hillery can claim the "experience",... then voters who support her should know what that entailed.....

Transparancy is needed for the "goverment", but not Hillery?

why do you give her a pass?
 
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