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Could Ronald Reagan be elected today?

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Anonymous

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I found this question posted on another site- and thought it was a good one.. In the current air of extemist hysteria- could Ronald Reagan get elected today?

What's in a resume, would he get elected today. RR a man from the land of fruits and nuts. President of the Sreen Actors Guild Union, schooled and king of b movies, divorced and married to his second wife, host and spokesman for GE and their hour on tv. Huge budget deficit spending, (mostly defense buildup). 70 some years old when he was elected.
Would the tea party and the moral majority call on him to be their guide and champion today? :???:
 

Clarencen

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Yep, another Ronald Reagan could be elected president. He most likely would be elected in a heartbeat. the american voter is facinated with actors, ball players and pop singers. Reagan did have some political experience, he was governer of California, he did a lot for that state, he cut cost of government for California.

True the Repubnlicans groomed him and applied makeup, He played their role well. As president, He changed an unfair system of taxation. While I believe the rich should pay some more taxes because they have more at stake, we had an unfair tax system that two Democrate presidents imposed to pay for two wars we had no business getting into. Neither North Korea or Veitnam ever attack us or did damage on our soil.

All presidents are puppets, they need the party to get elected. I don't remember if I voted for Reagon the first time, but I did the second time.
 
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Anonymous

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I wonder what the current press/media would do with his background (former Democrat- union leader-student strike leader who led revolts against college cutbacks- discommunicated with some family members, etc. etc.)- and then some of his political moves while in office like granting amnesty to millions of illegal aliens- secret arms sales to Muslim countries- and running up huge deficits quadrupling the national debt... ?

Makes you wonder--during a campaign today-could the current ********* movement- that seems to oppose much of these same things- overlook it- if the press brought it forward and exploited it. :???:
 

Steve

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must be a slow news day..

I am not sure why your bringing up Reagan.. I would vote for him again over most of the current crop..

I didn't agree with the amnesty.. and was a bit busy serving to get into the Iran/contra deal..

The affair began as an operation to improve U.S.-Iranian relations. It was planned that Israel would ship weapons to a relatively moderate, politically influential group of Iranians

To this day, it is unclear exactly what Reagan knew and when, and whether the arms sales were motivated by his desire to save the U.S. hostages.

so to this day... it is still unclear his motivation.. and involvement..

at this time I am against digging him up for a trial.. a

but he was a stand up type man..
On March 4, 1987, Reagan returned to the airwaves in a nationally televised address, taking full responsibility for any actions that he was unaware of, and admitting that "what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."
 

don

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"empire of illusion. the end of literacy and the triumph of spectacle" by chris hedges. why americans vote for people like reagan, obama and palin.
 

Steve

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OldTimer said:
-could the current ********* movement

like a tired old record .. scratched and old but you can't stop playing it..

over the years we have had some interesting debates, I have often stood up against other conservative to defend you.. yet you keep bringing up an offensive term.

what did anyone ever do to you for you to feel you must constantly insult me and a political grass roots event I and thousands of other decent Americans attended ? .
 

Steve

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don said:
"empire of illusion. the end of literacy and the triumph of spectacle" by chris hedges. why americans vote for people like reagan, obama and palin.

oh well, no one has ever figured out why you guys kept voting for liberals..
 

hopalong

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Steve said:
don said:
"empire of illusion. the end of literacy and the triumph of spectacle" by chris hedges. why americans vote for people like reagan, obama and palin.

oh well, no one has ever figured out why you guys kept voting for liberals..

Failed lobotomies?? :wink: :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Steve said:
OldTimer said:
-could the current ********* movement

like a tired old record .. scratched and old but you can't stop playing it..

over the years we have had some interesting debates, I have often stood up against other conservative to defend you.. yet you keep bringing up an offensive term.

No insult meant Steve...I remember the first articles out- that is what they called themselves- especially after the movement to send tea bags to Congressmen...There were even ads to join the ********* movement- and "teabag" D.C....
http://www.patriotdepot.com/teabag.aspx
Its hard to not call them Teabaggers then...Thats when I adopted the term....

Then apparently someone came up with the idea that this is a "nasty" or "offensive" term ( a definition I had never even heard of )- and they ran from the name....
Urban Dictionary has 30 definitions...


what did I ever do to you for you to feel you must constantly insult me and a political grass roots event I and thousands of other decent Americans attended ? .

Which TeaParty/Tea Party party do you belong to? There are dozens out there now all vying to be "the" one- and to get the rightwing and extremist donations...Like this guy that claims he started it:

http://www.pensitoreview.com/2010/01/04/photo-shows-top-tea-bagger-holding-sign-with-n-word-which-he-misspelled/

The movement has some good ideas--but because of the fear put out by anti all government radicals and racial extremists like this - and the infighting amongst themselves- it will lose the centrists and moderates needed to actually become a viable political force....

Governor Schweitzer last week had an interesting take on the hypocrisy of these "hate all government" groups/folks:

The tea party people get up in the morning and they make phone calls to each other that they're going to go to a rally. And they use a subsidized telephone system. Then they drive down a road that was built by the government that is protected by government workers called highway patrolmen. They get to a rally and they carry their signs and they are protected by the firemen and the policemen who are in that town. And then they eagerly drive home and say, "It was a success. We're against the government."
 

Steve

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OldTimer said:
I remember the first articles out- that is what they called themselves- especially after the movement to send tea bags to Congressmen...There were even ads to join the ********* movement- and "teabag" D.C....
http://www.patriotdepot.com/teabag.aspx
Its hard to not call them Teabaggers then...Thats when I adopted the term....

Then apparently someone came up with the idea that this is a "nasty" or "offensive" term ( a definition I had never even heard of )- and they ran from the name....
Urban Dictionary has 30 definitions...

I went to the link.. for the TEA or taxed enough already.. even after reading the entire page. I did not find the Term "*********"

well you know what it means... you use it alot... if you want to "adopt a derogatorily term and apply it to hundreds of thousands of decent people" what can I say?. .

for once in my life I am stumped for words.. all I can think is how pitiful and low must a person get? to use such a term and apply it to others, and then act like he doesn't see the problem...
 

Steve

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Steve said:
what did I ever do to you for you to feel you must constantly insult me and a political grass roots event I and thousands of other decent Americans attended ? .

="Oldtimer"Which TeaParty/Tea Party party do you belong to? There are dozens out there now all vying to be "the" one- and to get the rightwing and extremist donations...Like this guy that claims he started it:

a generally go to and participate with Tea or taxed enough already..

I am glad you found one bad example to base your views on, while ignoring those such as myself and hundreds of thousands of others who are decent Americans,

still doesn't explain your somewhat compulsive need to insult others?
 

hopalong

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Steve said:
Steve said:
what did I ever do to you for you to feel you must constantly insult me and a political grass roots event I and thousands of other decent Americans attended ? .

="Oldtimer"Which TeaParty/Tea Party party do you belong to? There are dozens out there now all vying to be "the" one- and to get the rightwing and extremist donations...Like this guy that claims he started it:

a generally go to and participate with Tea or taxed enough already..

I am glad you found one bad example to base your views on, while ignoring those such as myself and hundreds of thousands of others who are decent Americans,

still doesn't explain your somewhat compulsive need to insult others?

He feels the need to insult anyone who differs in the way he thinks, makes him the BIG man on the range.

EH ???
 
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Anonymous

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Well do you want to be called a Tea Partyier or a Tea Party partyier or "The Movement" guy or what.... Some don't seem to mind calling all Democrats "liberals" when over the last few years some of the blue dog Dems have been much more conservative than the neocons that were in control....

I just got used to calling them the name themajority of the folks call them... In fact yesterday there was an enviro meeting on the new oil pipeline they want to build threw the county- and only one enviro nut spoke out against it...Afterward we (mostly local ranchers- some of which are staunch Repubs) were talking about it- and it got around to "The Movement ?" and everyone referred to them as the "Teabaggers"...But I'll bet 90% of them had never heard the "offensive" definition of that word either-- and like me- were thinking nothing of that....
 

Steve

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but because of the fear put out by anti all government radicals and racial extremists like this - and the infighting amongst themselves- it will lose the centrists and moderates needed to actually become a viable political force....

if the good decent people are overran by the others then it should lose it's support. .

I have been to several meetings.. and there is a sincere effort "nationwide" to get rid of the radical voices that have latched on.. as with any grass roots org, it has some issues to deal with..

they are also pushing a fight in the Primaries unite in the general policy.. knowing a three party system is not viable now. asking both sides to work at ousting long term politicians.. there is also an effort to take back local party seats from long term "party bosses"

which means let the voters speak and after they vote, listen step aside and not be a spoiler.
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
Well do you want to be called a Tea Partyier or a Tea Party partyier or "The Movement" guy or what....
Some don't seem to mind calling all Democrats "liberals" when over the last few years some of the blue dog Dems have been much more conservative than the neocons that were in control.... I just got used to calling them the name the majority of the folks call them...

In fact yesterday there was an enviro meeting on the new oil pipeline they want to build threw the county- and only one enviro nut spoke out against it...Afterward we (mostly local ranchers- some of which are staunch Repubs) were talking about it- and it got around to "The Movement ?" and everyone referred to them as the "Teabaggers"...But I'll bet 90% of them had never heard the "offensive" definition of that word either-- and like me- were thinking nothing of that....

if you lump them all together.. TEA ..ect.. tea partyier is the accepted term.


I bet had most known the terms offensive meaning they would not use the term..
 

Steve

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Governor Schweitzer last week had an interesting take on the hypocrisy of these "hate all government" groups/folks:

Quote:
The tea party people get up in the morning and they make phone calls to each other that they're going to go to a rally. And they use a subsidized telephone system. Then they drive down a road that was built by the government that is protected by government workers called highway patrolmen. They get to a rally and they carry their signs and they are protected by the firemen and the policemen who are in that town. And then they eagerly drive home and say, "It was a success. We're against the government."

seems he doesn't understand the tea party movement any better then you do..

after the Tea party works, they get a check... and a huge chunk is missing... that chunk went to not only pay for the services you seem to think are free, but much more.. most want a smaller more efficient government with less waste. most are not against the government but against the politicians who are abusing their positions to ram through wasteful programs.. barter with tax dollars and spend...

since the issue of overspending can't seemed to be solved by the existing incumbent politicians of either party they advocate primary challenges.. and it seems to be working... maybe you didn't notice but the TEA party folk seem to be just as hard on republicans incumbents as they will be on democrats..
 
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