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Creekstone Warns that Japs Want Tested Beef

Bill

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fedup2 said:
Once again, please don’t include me in your silly @ss little games. You have made no point! You are like sh, a legend in your own mind.

Let me give you a little example of your style of posting. The same twisting, deceiving, bs conversations that you have with yourself and then declare yourself a winner!

You write:[I find it funny that most of you that back M'COOL do so because you hate the illusion that all beef sold in the US is US beef because there is not a label telling the consumer]

Does this mean that you are ashamed of your beef? Why do you feel that your beef is so inferior, that labeling it would shut down your market for it? Have you tried new genetics, feed, minerals? It is to bad that you feel your beef is so poor that it wouldn’t stand a chance if labeled product of Canada. I have always felt that we raised the best beef in the world. Thank you for making my point and admitting that your beef is inferior.

Do you see how easy it is to play your little game Tam? Any mental midget can do it, and most mental midgets do it!

For the rest of you Canadians, if you haven’t figured it out, this was only an example of how to Tam or SH up a post. Please don’t take it personal. You don’t need to know a damn thing except to blame, deceive, twist, spin, & label. Take every conversation and twist it to R-Calf. That way you don’t have to deal with any issues. Again, I am retired and do not now nor have I ever belonged to R-calf. (but there are posters on this site that have me thinking about joining!) :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mosy of us Canadians have no problem with labeling our beef as Canadian if US beef is labeled as well.

Have we tried new genetics?

Yep and they happen to be American. What better way to fit into the US beef market? I believe it's called trade.
 

fedup2

Well-known member
Not sure why you responded to this Bill. I thought I made it pretty clear that this was just a joke post almost as funny as the ones that Tam writes.
I wanted to show how one could have an argument with themselves and always win! It was meant to be nothing more.
 

RobertMac

Well-known member
Bill said:
fedup2 said:
Once again, please don’t include me in your silly @ss little games. You have made no point! You are like sh, a legend in your own mind.

Let me give you a little example of your style of posting. The same twisting, deceiving, bs conversations that you have with yourself and then declare yourself a winner!

You write:[I find it funny that most of you that back M'COOL do so because you hate the illusion that all beef sold in the US is US beef because there is not a label telling the consumer]

Does this mean that you are ashamed of your beef? Why do you feel that your beef is so inferior, that labeling it would shut down your market for it? Have you tried new genetics, feed, minerals? It is to bad that you feel your beef is so poor that it wouldn’t stand a chance if labeled product of Canada. I have always felt that we raised the best beef in the world. Thank you for making my point and admitting that your beef is inferior.

Do you see how easy it is to play your little game Tam? Any mental midget can do it, and most mental midgets do it!

For the rest of you Canadians, if you haven’t figured it out, this was only an example of how to Tam or SH up a post. Please don’t take it personal. You don’t need to know a damn thing except to blame, deceive, twist, spin, & label. Take every conversation and twist it to R-Calf. That way you don’t have to deal with any issues. Again, I am retired and do not now nor have I ever belonged to R-calf. (but there are posters on this site that have me thinking about joining!) :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mosy of us Canadians have no problem with labeling our beef as Canadian if US beef is labeled as well.

Have we tried new genetics?

Yep and they happen to be American. What better way to fit into the US beef market? I believe it's called trade.

fedup2 said:
For the rest of you Canadians, if you haven’t figured it out, this was only an example of how to Tam or SH up a post.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Tam

Well-known member
fedup2 said:
Once again, please don’t include me in your silly @ss little games. You have made no point! You are like sh, a legend in your own mind.

Let me give you a little example of your style of posting. The same twisting, deceiving, bs conversations that you have with yourself and then declare yourself a winner!

You write:[I find it funny that most of you that back M'COOL do so because you hate the illusion that all beef sold in the US is US beef because there is not a label telling the consumer]

Does this mean that you are ashamed of your beef? Why do you feel that your beef is so inferior, that labeling it would shut down your market for it? Have you tried new genetics, feed, minerals? It is to bad that you feel your beef is so poor that it wouldn’t stand a chance if labeled product of Canada. I have always felt that we raised the best beef in the world. Thank you for making my point and admitting that your beef is inferior.

Do you see how easy it is to play your little game Tam? Any mental midget can do it, and most mental midgets do it!

For the rest of you Canadians, if you haven’t figured it out, this was only an example of how to Tam or SH up a post. Please don’t take it personal. You don’t need to know a damn thing except to blame, deceive, twist, spin, & label. Take every conversation and twist it to R-Calf. That way you don’t have to deal with any issues. Again, I am retired and do not now nor have I ever belonged to R-calf. (but there are posters on this site that have me thinking about joining!) :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Who twisted this into something other than the dangers of creating an illusion fedup2 which you did by bringing up the testing A&W is doing in a thread about BSE testing?
Yes you proved again that a mental midget can rant and make no sense. Now can you answer the question of why producers in the US want M'COOL"? Isn't the reason because of the illusion the USDA inspected label gives consumers? And why is it that those that want that illusion stopped are right but the ones that think Creekstone is creating an illusion of food safety are wrong, and are full of Bull**it in your eyes? Which illusion is more dangerous? The truth is illusions are OK in your mind if they put money in US producers pocket but if they don't then they have to go.
And your example would have more punch if their was a shread of truth to it!!!! As I doubt you will find many Canadians that are ashamed of and thinks our beef in inferior to yours in any way. I think consumers including the Japanese can see who is proud of the product they produced by the fact that Canadians not only label every box of beef leaving our borders, the producers ID their cattle back to the ranch it was born on. UNLIKE some of the US producers who just want to label it US beef by default, as they don't want to prove to anyone where it really comes from within the US. As if the powers that be knew, the producers might be held accountable for the cattle they produced. Tell us Are US cattle marked in anyway so importing countries can tell wheither or not we are importing cattle and/or beef from Alabama and Texas? What are US producers ashamed of and if they are not, they should be.
 

Bill

Well-known member
fedup2 said:
Not sure why you responded to this Bill. I thought I made it pretty clear that this was just a joke post almost as funny as the ones that Tam writes.
I wanted to show how one could have an argument with themselves and always win! It was meant to be nothing more.
I responded because as I am sure you have noticed there are some Americans who do not see what you wrote as a joke. I won't mention which catttlemen's group they belong to. :lol:
 

RobertMac

Well-known member
Tam said:
Yes you proved again that a mental midget can rant and make no sense.

Fedup2, you made your point...I think? :? :???: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

When asked, USA consumers want MCOOL and Japanese consumers want BSE testing....beings the consumers are the ones that ultimately buy our product, wouldn't it be a novel idea if we actually listen to them??????????????????????
 

Econ101

Well-known member
How about the USDA make sure the USDA Grade follows it to the retail counter? Is it too much "truth in advertising" for packers? We may get more transmissabilty of market signals to producers that way instead of the packer games being played at producer and consumer expense.
 
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Fedup: "I’ll give you credit for one thing sh, you can talk more and say less than anyone on this forum! Spin & divert and still not say $hit!"

ok!


Fedup: "Who the hell are you to tell anyone how to run their business!"

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL A PRIVATE DRUG COMPANY THAT THEIR DRUGS NEED FDA APPROVAL????

WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO STAND IN THE WAY OF THIS FREE ENTERPRISE???

Same dumb assed argument.

We have laws in the US against consumer fraud and that is exactly what bse testing cattle under 24 months of age is when that test won't reveal bse prions in cattle under 24 months.

What the hell does a handful of 21 - 23 month old cases, UNCONFIRMED BY THE US, in countries that have a lot more bse than we do HAVE TO DO WITH 12 - 14 MONTH OLD CATTLE IN THE US????

Not a damn thing!


You fools continue to argue for bse testing WHEN JAPAN IS CONCERNED WITH SOURCE VERIFICATION confirming the foolishness of bse testing cattle under 24 months of age.


Fedup: "If a company wants to test & their consumers will pay for that test, what the hell business is it of yours what they do!"

Their consumers will pay for that test??? Hahaha!

"and if you act now, Japan will throw in the Ginzu knife absolutely free....but wait....there's more......"

They'll pay for the test by paying less for the cattle you rocket scientist.


Fedup: "Your silly @ss little catch-all phrase ‘illusion of safety’ is just that! An illusion!"

Hahaha! Ok big talker, why don't you present all the known cases of bse in cattle under 24 months of age in Canada and the US and any known cases of bse transmissions related to that age of cattle.

This should be good.........

Want to see spin, diversion, twisting, here it comes...........


Fedup: "Why should cattlemen lose millions $ of lost exports, because of your illusions!"

THE JAPANESE GOVERNMENT IS NOT ASKING FOR BSE TESTED BEEF YOU FOOL, THEY ARE ASKING FOR SOURCE VERIFICATION.

What kind of an idiot argues for something that is not even being asked for? Wait....I KNOW!

Fedup, you're just one more of these lemming USDA blamers that pick up on the "flavor of the month" bitch and parrot it like someone who can't think for himself.

1. Japan has already accepted non tested beef.
2. Japan is demanding source verification.
3. The fact that we are not shipping beef to Japan now doesn't have a damn thing to do with testing.
4. Canada is currently shipping untested beef to Japan.

Can you refute any of these facts?

Of course you can't but you can rattle on an on parroting the mindless drivel of a USDA blamer like the follower you are.


Fedup: "After the USDA forced untested beef down their throats, they found the first excuse they could find to shut it down."

OH BULLSH*T!

Japan demanded that we not ship them any "BONE IN PRODUCT". That is what we agreed to. What happened? WE SHIPPED THEM "BONE IN PRODUCT" which is exactly what we agreed not to ship them.

That doesn't have a damn thing to do with bse testing.

Let me guess, you're name is "HOP SING" right? The new Japanese ambassador?

Good grief!


Fedup: "Your ‘they accepted untested beef’ is another little illusion."

Ahhhh......ok? I guess we didn't send them "untested beef" and Canada is not sending them "untested beef" because Fedup said so. It was all an illusion...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Whatever you say there big shooter.


Fedup: "They played the usda’s silly @ss little game & shut it down as fast as they could."

Ok Hop Sing!


Fedup: "How much untested beef did they accept?"

Why are you asking that? You just got done saying it was an "illusion" so why would you be asking how much untested beef they accepted IF IT WAS AN ILLUSION?

You contradicted yourself but that's ok, that's usually what happens to those who make it up as they go.


Fedup: "You got nothing sh! A half of a page of blah blah and once again you didn’t say $hit!"

ok!


One simple question Fedup, where is your proof that Japan is now demanding that all cattle under 24 months of age be bse tested?

Hmmmm???

Yeh, yeh, I know.....I got nothing. A half of a page of blah blah blah........WAIT, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?

You bet!

Gosh, you really buried me with those powerful, unrefuted, factual based arguments. I tremble in your presence. LOL!

Probably time for another posting critique huh? Got your striped shirt and whistle? Gathered your support group?


~SH~
 

Tam

Well-known member
RobertMac said:
Tam said:
Yes you proved again that a mental midget can rant and make no sense.

Fedup2, you made your point...I think? :? :???: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

When asked, USA consumers want MCOOL and Japanese consumers want BSE testing....beings the consumers are the ones that ultimately buy our product, wouldn't it be a novel idea if we actually listen to them??????????????????????


Wouldn't it also be a novel idea if you listen to those that are asking you to implement a national ID system so another Alabama incident doesn't happen? Wouldn't it be a novel idea to beable to guarantee that M"COOL" label with actual records of where in the US that US BEEF was born and raised? Funny how you want to give the consumer what they want as long as the Japanese pay for the testing and you can cheap your way out on M'COOL by labeling US beef by default so it doesn't burden the US producers with the cost of proveing where your beef really comes from. :wink:
 

Mike

Well-known member
Tam said:
RobertMac said:
Tam said:
Yes you proved again that a mental midget can rant and make no sense.

Fedup2, you made your point...I think? :? :???: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

When asked, USA consumers want MCOOL and Japanese consumers want BSE testing....beings the consumers are the ones that ultimately buy our product, wouldn't it be a novel idea if we actually listen to them??????????????????????


Wouldn't it also be a novel idea if you listen to those that are asking you to implement a national ID system so another Alabama incident doesn't happen? Wouldn't it be a novel idea to beable to guarantee that M"COOL" label with actual records of where in the US that US BEEF was born and raised? Funny how you want to give the consumer what they want as long as the Japanese pay for the testing and you can cheap your way out on M'COOL by labeling US beef by default so it doesn't burden the US producers with the cost of proveing where your beef really comes from. :wink:

Sorry Tam, There were PLENTY of provisions within COOL to actually know where the animals come from. ACTUAL RECORDS WOULD HAVE BEEN NECESSARY.

http://www.ams.usda.gov/COOL/coolbeef.pdf
 

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