Tam said:Oldtimer said:reader (the Second) said:My belief is that there is far more incentivization and cooperation in Canada in terms of acknowledging downers and having them tested. At great price to the industry there and to individuals too.
I don't believe that the USDA or ANY of the industry -- that includes NCBA and R-CALF - have pushed for the broad testing of downers that should be being done.
So, yes, you have a good point.
reader-- Remember tho in Socialized Canada the Canadian producer gets paid to have the Vet come test--Vet gets paid- producer gets paid...I think some provinces pay as much as $250 per head to test what down here is worth just coyote food...
It isn't just out of the goodness of their hearts or doing whats right by a long shot---Government had to pay them to get them to comply :???: ........
It always comes down to the money doesn't it Oldtimer we aren't going to test because the USDA isn't paying us to test like the CFIA is the Canadian Producers. We aren't going to ID because we don't want to be burdened with the cost like the Canadian Producers are. But when the Packers say that your M"COOL will cost big bucks with little to no added beneifit to the indusrty as you have no way of assuring the label they are to do at anyway just because you say to as it MIGHT put a buck in your pocket right OLDTIMER.
Yes Canadian Producers get a payment to cover the lose of the cow if she is tested but then the rest of our herds are not at record high prices are they? If the US producers really cared about whether you have BSE or not you would give over your animals to prove you don't. After all the price you get for the rest of your cattle should more than cover the lose of one or two diers. And if the US producer cared about their herd health they would bite the bullet and put a NATIONAL M"ID" system in place so you can trace back to birth place like the Canadian INDUSTRY DID By the way Oldtimer the producers in Sask only get $75 not $250. so does that make us less likely to turn over our cattle? We made our testing quota and more. How about you Oldtimer did you turn any of your high price diers over for testing? As far as the incentive to test, the best incentive to test is to PROVE R-CALF WRONG and that we don't have the chronic huge life risking BSE problem that they think we do. :wink:
Tam, you sound like a National M ID salesperson. I'm still not sold.