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Dear Young Obama Voter,

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Dear Young Obama Voter,

Congratulations. You have truly changed America. Those of you under 30 voted 66 percent to 32 percent for Barack Obama, an unprecedented margin. Your elders 30 and over voted for him, too, but only by a 50 percent to 49 percent margin. You converted a 2000-like margin to a solid majority and added significant numbers to the Democratic majorities in Congress.

You voted, as your candidate and our president said, for Hope and Change. But I ask you to consider whether the policies that the president has proposed and in some cases pushed through really amount to that.

I ask you to examine them through the prism of a book published in 1999, when most of you were too young to vote: "The Future and Its Enemies," by Virginia Postrel (an Obama voter, too, by the way). Postrel assesses policies based not on whether they are liberal or conservative but on whether they are dynamist -- promoting or leaving room for change -- or stasist -- tending to freeze institutions and people in place.

By my reckoning, the Obama policies are more stasist than dynamist. The unions' card-check bill, which he backs, would effectively abolish the secret ballot in union elections and impose mandatory federal setting of wages and work rules after 120 days of union-management negotiations.

Centralized mediators would determine your pay and work rules, modeled perhaps after those between the United Auto Workers and what we used to call the Big Three automakers. They have 5,000 pages of work rules. Don't change that light bulb -- you have to wait for the right union guy to do it. Is this the way to enable you to exercise creativity and initiative in your work?

Then there is the cap-and-trade bill to address what we are told is man-caused global warming. Noble intentions here. But it means paying more for electricity in the meantime for a very distant goal. A similar law in California is threatening blackouts. Renewables sound great, but the wind doesn't always blow and the sun doesn't always shine. How is holding down economic growth going to help you to shape your future?

And there is health care. The intention here -- Obama said it back in 2003 and hasn't denied it since -- is to send us down a road that leads to government-provided health insurance. His latest trial balloon is a centralized medical procedures board that would decide what treatments the government would pay for and wouldn't.

This would inevitably stifle innovations in drugs and medical devices -- stasism, not dynamism. Centralized government isn't fast on the uptake. I've lived nearly 10 years longer than my grandfathers did because I take pills that didn't exist when they were alive. Don't you want the benefits of innovations and discoveries, like tailored genetic treatments, which don't exist yet? Freezing health care is stasist, not dynamist.

Let's take a look also at foreign policy. You probably didn't like the Iraq war very much, although you might have noticed that we are headed for victory there now -- with Obama's help, I should note. But I suspect that you do want America to be a force for good in the world.

That leads me to wonder whether you were dismayed when Obama responded with stony indifference to the people in the streets of Iran protesting a fraudulent election and demanding freedom and democracy. Some called for the end of a regime that subordinates women and executes homosexuals, things I'm sure you don't like at all. Although Obama eventually indicated some sympathy, he seemed to regard those demands as a nuisance getting in the way of negotiating with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the mullahs.

The foreign policy experts call this "realism." I call it statist. It leaves America standing not for hope and change, but for the status quo and despair.

I am sure that you find it inspiring that America elected its first black president (I do, too). And I am sure you appreciate Obama's openness to alternative lifestyles, although you may have noticed that he, like George W. Bush and unlike Dick Cheney, opposes same-sex marriage.

The larger point is this: You want policies that will enable you to choose your future. Obama backs policies that would let centralized authorities choose much of your future for you. Is this the hope and change you want?

Your friend and admirer,

Michael Barone
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
On the black president part. It is setting us back. People who have never experienced racism are now seeing it. Just consider how many times it comes up in this forum. How many times do you see this in the media? If you are republican, many blacks now consider you racist by default.

If I were young and deep in debt, double digit inflation might be a good thing - if I were extremely greedy and didn't care about the elderly and others on fixed income. This president might be a good choice for such a person based on the spending level he has attained.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Here is video of the student from the University of Colorado who asked President Obama a tough question the other day appearing on Fox News this morning. Zach Lahn said what he was looking for with his question was "the truth." He does not believe he got that in Obama's rambling answer.

Lahn pointed out that the Government is not successfully operating what it is already trying to do, let alone take on the entire Health Care System.

Lahn said he got called on because he spoke out that Medicare is "bankrupt" when Obama cited Medicare as an example of success. Then later, Lahn waved his hands when Oama was looking for a questioner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h7cb7Mpjj8
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
On the black president part. It is setting us back. People who have never experienced racism are now seeing it.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read in this forum yet.

It sounds like something Jigs of Hopalong would say.

You ought to no better.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
backhoeboogie said:
On the black president part. It is setting us back. People who have never experienced racism are now seeing it.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read in this forum yet.

It sounds like something Jigs of Hopalong would say.

You ought to no better.

Does the truth hurt or something? Before we heard of Obama, "racists" were never levied at anyone in this forum, that I remember. Now you see it daily. We never saw the Rev Wright's condemnation on MSM. We had only heard rumor of such.

The only racist things I remember seeing on the local news was John Wiley Price's antics. There were the blacks who painted "BOB" on their businesses during the LA Rioting so that other blacks would only rob and vandalize buisnesses owned by whites or asians etc. But that was pretty much a one time thing.

These days it is discussed at work with black peers. It is in this forum every day. It is on the news regularly.

You are calling reality "dumb". I have come to understand your blind eye to reality.

Your only real goal is to inflame folks, as you plainly just stated in another post. Your attempts would likely garnish you more antecedent sick satisfaction if you had more credibility. When you deny reality, you lost that credibility.

Just for good measure, why not go back say two years in this fourm and check for racist accusations. There won't be as many I promise.
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
badaxemoo said:
backhoeboogie said:
On the black president part. It is setting us back. People who have never experienced racism are now seeing it.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read in this forum yet.

It sounds like something Jigs of Hopalong would say.

You ought to no better.

Does the truth hurt or something? Before we heard of Obama, "racists" were never levied at anyone in this forum, that I remember. Now you see it daily. We never saw the Rev Wright's condemnation on MSM. We had only heard rumor of such.

The only racist things I remember seeing on the local news was John Wiley Price's antics. There were the blacks who painted "BOB" on their businesses during the LA Rioting so that other blacks would only rob and vandalize buisnesses owned by whites or asians etc. But that was pretty much a one time thing.

These days it is discussed at work with black peers. It is in this forum every day. It is on the news regularly.

You are calling reality "dumb". I have come to understand your blind eye to reality.

Your only real goal is to inflame folks, as you plainly just stated in another post. Your attempts would likely garnish you more antecedent sick satisfaction if you had more credibility. When you deny reality, you lost that credibility.

Just for good measure, why not go back say two years in this fourm and

I believe, if I remember correctly, that Mike was posting hear a couple of years ago.

Case closed.
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
You need practice with quoting. You got it wrong above.

I don't remember reading "Buckwheat" or "Uckwheat" in this forum a couple of years back. But you're right about Mike being here.
 

badaxemoo

Well-known member
backhoeboogie said:
You need practice with quoting. You got it wrong above.

I don't remember reading "Buckwheat" or "Uckwheat" in this forum a couple of years back. But you're right about Mike being here.

So let me get this right.

It is Obama's fault that Mike is calling him Buckwheat?

The racial tension sparked by his election has caused a once open-minded southern gentleman to become an unreconstructed redneck bigot?
 

backhoeboogie

Well-known member
I'm not going to go around circles with you Badaxe. You're hopeless to reason with.

We were discussing increase in racial tensions. From my perspective we have regressed. From your perspective we have not. Lets just leave it at that. You see what you choose to see and I will take note of the things I see.
 

Sandhusker

Well-known member
badaxemoo said:
backhoeboogie said:
On the black president part. It is setting us back. People who have never experienced racism are now seeing it.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read in this forum yet.

It sounds like something Jigs of Hopalong would say.

You ought to no better.

Nope, not the dumbest by far. How many times have people been labeled racists here just because they don't like Obama? I guess liberals don't KNOW better.
 
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