Thanks for the picture! The folks on the points wouldnt be shootin bucks without the fellas doing the pushes. Before the big fire in '94, we used to make drives through thick cedar patches. Lots of good bucks were taken by working together. I hated pushing cause i felt i'd never get to shoot. The bucks always seemed to end up being taken by the people on the points. But after learning to hunt & not just hike i started seeing deer trying to slip between the drivers. And when ya get a wise ol' buck making a hook around ya and ya get that ol' 30-30 on him, it is awesome. Its amazing how much smarter i got as i listened more and got older!