Oldtimer:
From my law background viewpoint it just seems asinine that someone can't see the fraud and deception in allowing persons to profit off selling falsely identified products- the selling of imported beef as a US product is a scam on the consumers.
Oldtimer from my common sence viewpoint it seems ASININE to blame the packers and Canadian producers, when you know
first hand that it is YOUR LOCAL BUTCHER that is taking those labels off, hence the "Product of Canada" boxes in your local butchers dumpster! :roll: and it is also ASININE to bitch about it, then turn around and EXCUSE YOUR LOCAL BUTCHER for the reason you gave, which was
The local fella is doing it to compete- he can only get what the warehouse sources to him- and that varies from week to week-- and he knows that if he marks it Product of Canada he would lose business
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You sir are just as guilty as the next of assisting in perpetrating this fraud by excusing his actions on the grounds he has to COMPETE OR LOSE BUSINESS. :nod: You claim you, as a ex-law man, deal with truths but yet you allow your local butcher to SCAM HIS CONSUMERS YOUR NEIGHBORS. You Oldtimer deal in what ever fits your agenda which is excuses and half truths at BEST
And I have to laugh at you supporting the idea that the "USDA INSPECTED" label is a fraud. Think about it if a consumer sees that "INSPECTED" label what is he going to think
1: that the meat is US beef and safe for human consumption because the USDA inspected it or
2: the meat, imported or domestic. was inspected to the USDA standards and was found to be safe for human consumption
Either way the USDA inspection of the meat found the beef to be "safe for human consumption" . Now if the label said US BEEF then it would be a fraud to sell imported under that label. But since it is an
USDA INSPECTED LABEL and the USDA inspected all the meat to the same standards
NO FRAUD WAS PERPETRATED. :x Just a bunch of bitching ranchers like you OLDTIMER thinking the consumers don't have the right to know that the USDA has inspected ALL meat to the same standards to ensure all beef imported or domestic is safe for human comsumption.
Now let us look at the label that most of you same people think is not a fraud, the "BSE TESTED label. What do you think the consumer is going to think?
1. The animal was tested and the test result was negitive meaning it is free of BSE therefore it is being sold safe of risk from BSE. or why else would it be in the meat counter OR
2. The animal was tested the test result was negitive but since the animal was too young the test could be wrong, so eat at own risk.
TWO completely different means one implies no risk and the other implies may still present a small risk if the SRM's hadn't been removed. Which leads to fraud on the part of the labeler, which in this case is Creekstone supported BY R-CALFERS.
Now if the label was to state "SRM's removed " Then the consumer could think, according to the OIE, SRM removal is the number one way of removing the risk of contracting vCJD (if I can contract it from eating beef) so the risk of this meat is less than eating tested beef when that test was done knowing it WOULDN"T WORK ON YOUNGER ANIMALS.
The only thing that makes this "not a fraud" is the fact you R-CALFERS support it as a means of selling your beef to Japanese consumers,
with implied safety.
The thing that makes the inspected label "a fraud" to you is even though it tells the consumers the truth,
the meat is safe, you can't use it to line your pockets by trying to sell your beef to US consumer by implying US beef is safer than imported even though both countries meat is inspected to the SAME STANDARDS.
MIKE: The meat importers would shop this meat from station to station until they found a checkpoint that would allow it in the USA.
If there had not been a problem this particular matter, this bill would have never been presented to the lawmakers
We have been fed the propaganda for years that the US has the safest food system in the world.
And Mike if the guys that import beef can do an end run around some USDA inspectors by going to a different inspector what is saying the same can't be happening in the US with
domestic beef but a much large scale given the volume of US beef slaughtered on any given day??? kind of puts a big question mark on the claims of the US Beef being the Safest in the World I'd say.