hypocritexposer said:Regular Dems are not the problem at present. It's the radical left that is.
obama has surrounded himself with the radicals/far left of the party and special interest groups. They have highjacked the Dem. Party.
backhoeboogie said:hypocritexposer said:Regular Dems are not the problem at present. It's the radical left that is.
obama has surrounded himself with the radicals/far left of the party and special interest groups. They have highjacked the Dem. Party.
I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
backhoeboogie said:hypocritexposer said:Regular Dems are not the problem at present. It's the radical left that is.
obama has surrounded himself with the radicals/far left of the party and special interest groups. They have highjacked the Dem. Party.
I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
hypocritexposer said:backhoeboogie said:hypocritexposer said:Regular Dems are not the problem at present. It's the radical left that is.
obama has surrounded himself with the radicals/far left of the party and special interest groups. They have highjacked the Dem. Party.
I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
I think the radicals have been infiltrating the party since Clinton's time. In the next couple of years I think the Dem party is going to go through quite a bit of internal fighting.
Beck did a good piece on this the other night. I think he is correct.
backhoeboogie said:backhoeboogie said:hypocritexposer said:Regular Dems are not the problem at present. It's the radical left that is.
obama has surrounded himself with the radicals/far left of the party and special interest groups. They have highjacked the Dem. Party.
I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
Let me add that I cannot and will not understand why dead beat dads, convicts and drug addicts are entitled to the same medical assistance as me when I am the only one willing to actually pay the doctor for his services.
TSR said:backhoeboogie said:backhoeboogie said:I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
Let me add that I cannot and will not understand why dead beat dads, convicts and drug addicts are entitled to the same medical assistance as me when I am the only one willing to actually pay the doctor for his services.
Because in the long run it would probably be cost-effective rather than them showing up at the emergency room on a weekly basis. The working man is the one that's going to pay regardless. It always works this way. BTW you and I both probably know people that work every day and still can't afford insurance. Something needs to be done. I just want the public to be the benefactors and not be the ones being manipulated to benefit the corporatists. I don't know that will ever happen though.
backhoeboogie said:TSR said:backhoeboogie said:Let me add that I cannot and will not understand why dead beat dads, convicts and drug addicts are entitled to the same medical assistance as me when I am the only one willing to actually pay the doctor for his services.
Because in the long run it would probably be cost-effective rather than them showing up at the emergency room on a weekly basis. The working man is the one that's going to pay regardless. It always works this way. BTW you and I both probably know people that work every day and still can't afford insurance. Something needs to be done. I just want the public to be the benefactors and not be the ones being manipulated to benefit the corporatists. I don't know that will ever happen though.
On your "something needs to be done" side of that, we could repeal the law that says they have to be treated at the emergency room. Maybe if they have not paid their medical bills from the last trip?
We don't have a law that says a child can walk up to a restaurant and demand to be served food over and over week after week. How did Bill miss that one when he passed the other?
I am all for feeding children and providing them health care. Drug addicts, people who have committed crimes against the public, people who refuse to pay for the children they fathered, or people who take advantage in general are not the same as kids who cannot provide for themselves. I don't want to pay for dead beats by "spreading the wealth." Most of us have worked hard all our lives.
backhoeboogie said:TSR said:backhoeboogie said:Let me add that I cannot and will not understand why dead beat dads, convicts and drug addicts are entitled to the same medical assistance as me when I am the only one willing to actually pay the doctor for his services.
Because in the long run it would probably be cost-effective rather than them showing up at the emergency room on a weekly basis. The working man is the one that's going to pay regardless. It always works this way. BTW you and I both probably know people that work every day and still can't afford insurance. Something needs to be done. I just want the public to be the benefactors and not be the ones being manipulated to benefit the corporatists. I don't know that will ever happen though.
On your "something needs to be done" side of that, we could repeal the law that says they have to be treated at the emergency room. Maybe if they have not paid their medical bills from the last trip?
We don't have a law that says a child can walk up to a restaurant and demand to be served food over and over week after week. How did Bill miss that one when he passed the other?
I am all for feeding children and providing them health care. Drug addicts, people who have committed crimes against the public, people who refuse to pay for the children they fathered, or people who take advantage in general are not the same as kids who cannot provide for themselves. I don't want to pay for dead beats by "spreading the wealth." Most of us have worked hard all our lives.
That statement is FALSEThe Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) was passed in 1986 when Bill Clinton was President?. True statment or false statment please answer.
MsSage said:That statement is FALSEThe Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) was passed in 1986 when Bill Clinton was President?. True statment or false statment please answer.
Ronald Wilson Reagan (February 6, 1911– June 5, 2004) was the 40th President of the United States (1981–1989)
hurleyjd said:MsSage said:That statement is FALSEThe Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) was passed in 1986 when Bill Clinton was President?. True statment or false statment please answer.
Ronald Wilson Reagan (February 6, 1911– June 5, 2004) was the 40th President of the United States (1981–1989)
You are right no prize though, it was for Back hoe. If I read right he blamed Bill for it.
backhoeboogie said:hurleyjd said:MsSage said:That statement is FALSE
Ronald Wilson Reagan (February 6, 1911– June 5, 2004) was the 40th President of the United States (1981–1989)
You are right no prize though, it was for Back hoe. If I read right he blamed Bill for it.
Bill's amendments are what put the teeth and twists in it. It put us where we are today. We've all been through this before in depth here in this forum. Kola had all the pieces and specifics back when it happened. Frankie was doing hurleyjd's role then of blaming it on Reagan.
If ya'll want to go through this all again I can start searching?
hypocritexposer said:backhoeboogie said:hypocritexposer said:Regular Dems are not the problem at present. It's the radical left that is.
obama has surrounded himself with the radicals/far left of the party and special interest groups. They have highjacked the Dem. Party.
I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
I think the radicals have been infiltrating the party since Clinton's time. In the next couple of years I think the Dem party is going to go through quite a bit of internal fighting.
Beck did a good piece on this the other night. I think he is correct.
Rep. Bill Pascrell has called fellow Democrats “arrogant” and referred to a key party talking point as “BS.” He slammed deals cut by leadership and special interests and said, “We’re not going to accept that any longer.”
Agitated and unfiltered, Pascrell has become the guy who’s not afraid to go public with what many rank-and-file House Democrats have been saying behind closed doors.
“The people in Massachusetts sent a clear message,” he said. “If we didn’t get it in New Jersey or Virginia, we should’ve gotten it, certainly, Tuesday.”
“We are arrogant when we say, ‘Well, as soon as the public understands what we’re doing, they’ll like it,’” he told a clutch of reporters. “That is not only arrogant, it’s BS.”
Rank-and-file Democrats are “tired of hearing about and not knowing about” the deals that leadership cut with industries for their support of this legislation, Pascrell said, and in expressing that, Pelosi became Pascrell’s prime target.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31934_Page2.html#ixzz0dhU1FUO2
backhoeboogie said:backhoeboogie said:hypocritexposer said:Regular Dems are not the problem at present. It's the radical left that is.
obama has surrounded himself with the radicals/far left of the party and special interest groups. They have highjacked the Dem. Party.
I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
Let me add that I cannot and will not understand why dead beat dads, convicts and drug addicts are entitled to the same medical assistance as me when I am the only one willing to actually pay the doctor for his services.
Liveoak said:backhoeboogie said:backhoeboogie said:I tend to disagree with you but it simply opinion only. In my opinion, they started the down hill slide pretty hard under Billary.
Carter worked his tail off. He worked harder and longer days than any president of my life time, in my opinion. He simply did not have the vision and understanding to achieve what needed to be done. He flailed away. Our whole darn system has flailed with health care for a whole year now and it looks like we could flail with it for three more years. The original health care flailing started with Clinton.
Let me add that I cannot and will not understand why dead beat dads, convicts and drug addicts are entitled to the same medical assistance as me when I am the only one willing to actually pay the doctor for his services.
Well, R, before we can deal with those parasites we need to deal with free medical assistance going to illegal aliens, support to able people who refuse to work and won't try, rapist drug companies and fat-cat CEO's. I do agree with you that convicts shouldn't get any rights at all! Enemy combatants that get a trial with 3 squares, free medical and and free legal representation? Give me a break!!!!!!
The "freeloader" mentality needs to go.
Carter had a good heart but was ineffective. Obama's getting a loud wake-up call right now and finally making some attempt at solutions. I suspect life with Palin would be the same at the moment.