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Anonymous

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Nothing on tv tonite- so watched the Dem debates...Hillary definitely came out the winner- and definitely had the most support in Las Vegas....

And from the female support in the room-- if I was a betting man, I'd be putting money on her...

But her odds are terrible- could only get 50 cents back for every dollar bet--- not worth a bet....Bookies are putting her way out front....

Hillary 1 to 2
Guiliani 5 to 1
Romney 9 to 1
Obama 9 to 1
Gore 16 to 1
Paul 16 to 1
Thompson 20 to 1
Edwards 25 to 1
McCain 33 to 1
Bloomberg 33 to 1
Huckabee 66 to 1
 

Goodpasture

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I think I said it more than 6 months ago....get used to saying "Madam President"

George Bush has done more damage to the Republican Party than Nixon did......if for no other reason than Nixon managed to get a good man to repace him (Ford) and left, taking the burden of the bad karma with him. Bush is going to leave the government in disarray and his party floundering for leadership. And the only real conservative leader on todays horizon, that has any credibility, is Newt Gingrich......and he is badly bruised from another Clinton.....he might not survive a confrontation with a second one.
 

Tex

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Goodpasture said:
I think I said it more than 6 months ago....get used to saying "Madam President"

George Bush has done more damage to the Republican Party than Nixon did......if for no other reason than Nixon managed to get a good man to repace him (Ford) and left, taking the burden of the bad karma with him. Bush is going to leave the government in disarray and his party floundering for leadership. And the only real conservative leader on todays horizon, that has any credibility, is Newt Gingrich......and he is badly bruised from another Clinton.....he might not survive a confrontation with a second one.

I am not that sure that this wasn't a backup plan, goodpasture.

As someone on C-span said this morning, the republicans (big business interests) want two republicans running for president.

Look at the law cases of Hillary and the big business interests she is tied to. Looks like the back room strategy is working.
 
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Goodpasture said:
I think I said it more than 6 months ago....get used to saying "Madam President"

George Bush has done more damage to the Republican Party than Nixon did......if for no other reason than Nixon managed to get a good man to repace him (Ford) and left, taking the burden of the bad karma with him. Bush is going to leave the government in disarray and his party floundering for leadership. And the only real conservative leader on todays horizon, that has any credibility, is Newt Gingrich......and he is badly bruised from another Clinton.....he might not survive a confrontation with a second one.



Yep-- he's giving D.C. to the Dems on a silver platter...Even in very conservative/libertarian country like Montana- GW couldn't help the dogcatcher get elected anymore.... :roll:

To go from 87% approval rating to 32% in 6 years must be a new record :shock: :roll: :wink: :lol:

This was one of todays State headlines:

Poll: Support wanes for Bush, war choice
By The Associated Press

A new poll shows President Bush's approval ratings in Montana have dropped significantly, along with support for the decision to go to war in Iraq.

The survey released Thursday by Montana State University Billings found 32 percent of Montana residents approve of Bush's overall job performance, while 57 percent disapproved and 11 percent were undecided. The telephone survey of 412 adults was conducted Nov. 8-11 and had a margin of error of 5 percentage points.

Bush's approval ratings were down from 45 percent last year in the same Montana State University Billings poll and down from a 2001 high of 87 percent.

Support for the decision to go to war is also eroding. The poll found that only 35 percent of Montanans surveyed now support the decision to go to war in Iraq. About 58 percent oppose that decision, up from 48 percent in both 2005 and 2006 in the same poll.

And 54 percent of respondents said they oppose Bush's decision to veto an expansion of a children's health insurance program.

• 63 percent say the country is moving in the wrong direction; 19 percent say it's moving in the right direction.


http://www.billingsgazette.net/articles/2007/11/16/news/state/26-pollwar.txt
 

Goodpasture

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Tex said:
As someone on C-span said this morning, the republicans (big business interests) want two republicans running for president.

There is a VERY big possibility that Hillary is the candidate of choice by big business (GM, GE, etc). One thing she is going to deal with in an immediate and effective manner is health care. Look for a national health care package on the table before she gets us out of Iraq. And, except for the health insurance carriers, that is what corporate American desperately needs. For example, it is said that heritages costs are as much as 20% of the cost of every new car. Heritage costs are the costs paid by car makers for health and retirement benefits to retired workers. If that cost can be shifted to health security and social security, that makes Detroit massively more competitive.

Same in Retail......Wal-mart, K-Mart, Sears, Target, Best Buy, are all facing growing employee unrest over issues such as health care. The cost of health care is prohibitive for employers and employees alike. A national plan will resolve that issue without the risk of organizing unions to achieve it. This is far more feasible if the states adopt laws similar to Oklahoma's that fine employers for hiring undocumented workers. To get the shelves stocked and the floors swept, employers are going to have to offer benefits to Americans. Having the government shoulder that burden makes sense.....dollars and cents.

I think the key to the current crop of candidates is that Bush has favored the oil industry. Industry does not mind being catered to, but it has to be evenly distributed. Big ag, Big retail, big steel, all need their piece of the pie.......and big oil has been getting it all. In that respect, I expect Hillary to level the field.....she will take money from all of them. And, by and large, she is an honest crook. She will honor her agreements with those big businesses who supported her.
 
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On the Republican side, the latest polls show that Huckabee is in a virtual tie with Romney in Iowa. He's spent almost no money and yet is ahead of Rudy and McCain among Republicans in Iowa! Maybe Republicans in Iowa are looking for a candidate who they can identify with rather than one who claims he can "beat Hillary".
 

Tex

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ff said:
On the Republican side, the latest polls show that Huckabee is in a virtual tie with Romney in Iowa. He's spent almost no money and yet is ahead of Rudy and McCain among Republicans in Iowa! Maybe Republicans in Iowa are looking for a candidate who they can identify with rather than one who claims he can "beat Hillary".

Huckabee 66 to 1

might be a good bet!!!
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
Nothing on tv tonite- so watched the Dem debates...Hillary definitely came out the winner- and definitely had the most support in Las Vegas....

And from the female support in the room-- if I was a betting man, I'd be putting money on her...

But her odds are terrible- could only get 50 cents back for every dollar bet--- not worth a bet....Bookies are putting her way out front....

Hillary 1 to 2
Guiliani 5 to 1
Romney 9 to 1
Obama 9 to 1
Gore 16 to 1
Paul 16 to 1
Thompson 20 to 1
Edwards 25 to 1
McCain 33 to 1
Bloomberg 33 to 1
Huckabee 66 to 1

I would give you even odds she looses! I wish I knew were to put some money on this I would bet on Rudi with 5 to 1 that is a very, very good bet!

Polls are flawed to favor Dem's almost all polls ever taken have a lean to the left much like the media. The Media tries to elect a Dem into office long before the voters go into the booth. The did it with Kerry and they are doing it with Hillary. Remember they even had Kerry wining in the exit polls on election day, and we know how that turned out.

I do not see Hillary getting the votes once the curtain closes. Especially once the Republicans start their campaign bring up all her skeletons.
 

Sandhusker

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Why would anyone vote for Hillary? Her response to the General Betrayus deal and her refusal to answer the question about illegals getting driver's licenses reinforced what I knew about her carachter. Morally bankrupt.
 
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Sandhusker said:
Why would anyone vote for Hillary? Her response to the General Betrayus deal and her refusal to answer the question about illegals getting driver's licenses reinforced what I knew about her carachter. Morally bankrupt.

Last night she said NO on the illegal drivers licenses-- it was Obama that waffled....

Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks... :wink: :lol:
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Why would anyone vote for Hillary? Her response to the General Betrayus deal and her refusal to answer the question about illegals getting driver's licenses reinforced what I knew about her carachter. Morally bankrupt.

Last night she said NO on the illegal drivers licenses-- it was Obama that waffled....

Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks... :wink: :lol:

It takes three weeks to answer a yes/no question? The only ones that did answer straight were Richards with a "Yes, and I have already done it" and Biden with a "No".
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Why would anyone vote for Hillary? Her response to the General Betrayus deal and her refusal to answer the question about illegals getting driver's licenses reinforced what I knew about her carachter. Morally bankrupt.

Last night she said NO on the illegal drivers licenses-- it was Obama that waffled....

Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks... :wink: :lol:

It takes three weeks to answer a yes/no question? The only ones that did answer straight were Richards with a "Yes, and I have already done it" and Biden with a "No".

Hillary needs enough time to consult her people to know exactly how to answer. The caught her off guard and she was not ready for a direct question. She is use to everyone that interviews her giving leading questions. Kind of like that plant she had the other day in the audience.

If she was ever involved in a debate with a Conservative moderator she would be cussing mad.
 

passin thru

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The debate reminded me of a pickpocket taking your wallet and then offering to give a dollar back to make everyone happy. The Dems seemed to be happy.................as long as it isn't their wallet I suppose.

Ya know tthey are a lot like somemembers here on this board...............might take three weeks to answer a question...........then again they might not answer.
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Tex

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passin thru said:
The debate reminded me of a pickpocket taking your wallet and then offering to give a dollar back to make everyone happy. The Dems seemed to be happy.................as long as it isn't their wallet I suppose.

Ya know tthey are a lot like somemembers here on this board...............might take three weeks to answer a question...........then again they might not answer.
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If I don't happen to answer a question over here, please pm me. I don't read all of these posts.
 

Tex

Well-known member
passin thru said:
Tex, I wasn't thinking of you in that remark

Man, I appreciate that.

I only come on this forum so people will think about me. I guess I can consider myself successful!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:tiphat: :tiphat:
 
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NEWSMAX is reporting that it was Hitlery that got Spitzer to drop the drivers license idea....Apparently she was tired of being put on the spot- and made him an offer he couldn't refuse.. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Report: Hillary Pressed Spitzer on Driver’s Licenses

The talk among some political observers is that Hillary Clinton pressured New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer to abandon his plan to give driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants.

During the Oct. 30 Democratic presidential debate, Clinton tried to dodge the question of whether she supported Spitzer’s driver’s licenses plan. Afterwards she was widely criticized for her evasiveness, and her standing in the polls began slipping.

But Spitzer announced on Wednesday that he was dropping the plan, claiming it was public opinion, not the Clintons, that persuaded him to abandon it, CBS-TV reported on its Web site.

But Rush Limbaugh is one conservative commentator who sees the Clintons’ hands in Spitzer’s decision.

“I wonder if anybody sighted New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer on a rowboat out on Lake Placid with Don Vito Clintonleone,” he told listeners.

He added in regard to Spitzer’s change of heart: “What coincidence! It happens on the day prior to the next debate with the Democrats.”

Fred Dicker, longtime state government reporter for the New York Post, confirmed Rush’s suspicions. Appearing on TV’s “Hardball,” he told Chris Matthews: “I was told at a very high level in New York politics that Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, or some of her top people, signaled to Governor Spitzer’s people that he had damaged her.

"They were wondering what the heck he was up to, why he had brought it to the floor now, and made it clear that the governor was hurting her and that he ought to back down if he wanted to help her, which he says he wants to do.”

Also on Wednesday, Hillary — who had called Spitzer’s proposal a “good idea” — issued a statement saying: “As president, I will not support driver’s licenses for undocumented people".
 
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